UH Oh......maybe secession isn't such a far fetched idea

[srtsam]

POLL: 52%, 41% of Trump, Biden Voters Support Secession from Union

A new poll commissioned by the University of Virginia’s Center for Politics indicates a sizable proportion of Americans s...

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looks like more and more americans are beginning to realize that we really don't have that much in common with or if we even like our countrymen on the other side of aisle. Even the left is beginning to think its a good idea to parts way. I know a country divided cannot stand but we are already there. Neither side wants to live the way the other wants them to. I've been preaching this shit for years. Let us live the way we want to and they can live however they want to. This idea will continue to grow as a great alternative to bloodshed. Instead of dismissing secession as craziness maybe we should start come up with an exit plan to make this happen without violence and people can live how they want. I guess we're gone full circle and we're right back we were as a nation all those years ago.

 

[quietmike]

10th amendment supports this idea.
If California wants the state to fund gender reassignment surgeries for illegal aliens, and Mississippi wants no government funded charities, and other states fall somewhere in between we can see 50 experiments happen, and folks moving to areas that support their ideology.

 

[NoDopes]

Let's do it. Texas first.

 

[Maggot]

10th amendment supports this idea.
If California wants the state to fund gender reassignment surgeries for illegal aliens and people in prison for felony murder, and Mississippi wants no government funded charities, and other states fall somewhere in between we can see 50 experiments happen, and folks moving to areas that support their ideology.

Fuck that shit. I dont care if a man wants to cut his or its dick off but I dont want to pay for it.

Let's do it. Texas first.

Texas will likely go blue by 2024 and be catering to every pervert aroud. Austin already does and its the capitol.

 

[quietmike]

Fuck that shit. I dont care if a man wants to cut his or its dick off but I dont want to pay for it.

If you still think logically and live in California, you're a dumbass and deserve everything that happens to you.

 

[Maggot]

If you still think logically and live in California, you're a dumbass and deserve everything that happens to you.

I dont live in Commiefornia I was speaking parenthetically. But it is the most beautiful and geographically state in the nation. Too bad its run by...I cant really find a word for that, so how about retarded, imbecilic, perverts?

 

[10ring'r]

Lets do it! We are truly F'd as it stands now.
Just pleeeeeze let me know what side of that F'n fence you guys/girls are pitching your tents.
This F'n plot of dirt is starting to smell like SH#T! Mac

 

[TurboTrout]

We fought civil war over this.

The fed won’t give up that sweet tax money without a fight.

Cost more lives than the pending war with china

 

[Snuby642]

Texas is buisy pissing off liberals so bad they are leaving the state.

Not going to be a blue state soon.

 

[TurboTrout]

Texas is buisy pissing off liberals so bad they are leaving the state.

Not going to be a blue state soon.

Nah, it’s the USs own little Middle East

I’m waiting on the abortion murder trial for a kid jerking off in a sock lol

“That’s could have been like 100 babies, you killer you!”

 

[Maggot]

Nah, it’s the USs own little Middle East

I’m waiting on the abortion murder trial for a kid jerking off in a sock lol

“That’s could have been like 100 babies, you killer you!”

There was an old joke about that.

Guy jerks off into his had, then laments "You could have been a doctor, or a lawyer, or a scientist, I think Ill give you another chance." as he slurps it down.

Ewwwwwww.

 

[x2cross]

I dont live in Commiefornia I was speaking parenthetically. But it is the most beautiful and geographically state in the nation. Too bad its run by...I cant really find a word for that, so how about retarded, imbecilic, perverts?

I grew up in a red area of CA, and it's definitely the most beautiful state. 2 hour drive in either direction and you're hiking/hunting in the mountains, or at the ocean. That being said, I've lived in Texas for the past 11 years and would never move back. Got my own 10 acres of freedom that I'd never be able to afford in CA. Plus, there's a whole lot less commies in south TX

 

[acudaowner]

think it funny talking about giving up even before any resistance is given that sounds just so un American I always thought being a royal pain in the ass was a national creed something citizens just had to do like breathing . Secession while an option is more of a last resort not a goto if you want change you got to put up at least a little fight it is all of our countries is it not in some small way there hasn't even been a march nothing yet not a protest march in Washington nada nope . yea the republican party wants you to play nice but has this ever been a game ? why would any one just hand over what was there's to those old commies .

 

[forrestgump01]

POLL: 52%, 41% of Trump, Biden Voters Support Secession from Union

A new poll commissioned by the University of Virginia’s Center for Politics indicates a sizable proportion of Americans s...

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looks like more and more americans are beginning to realize that we really don't have that much in common with or if we even like our countrymen on the other side of aisle. Even the left is beginning to think its a good idea to parts way. I know a country divided cannot stand but we are already there. Neither side wants to live the way the other wants them to. I've been preaching this shit for years. Let us live the way we want to and they can live however they want to. This idea will continue to grow as a great alternative to bloodshed. Instead of dismissing secession as craziness maybe we should start come up with an exit plan to make this happen without violence and people can live how they want. I guess we're gone full circle and we're right back we were as a nation all those years ago.

Do you think the left would sit by watching a free state prosper and thrive while they sit in thier shithole. No , they will never be happy or content .
They hate anything that is good because they are truly evil.
They will never allow you to live the way that "you" want to.

You have to remember that a parasite cannot live without a host !

 

[eastexsteve]

Fuck that shit. I dont care if a man wants to cut his or its dick off but I dont want to pay for it.

Texas will likely go blue by 2024 and be catering to every pervert aroud. Austin already does and its the capitol.

You go outside of the Austin metropolitan area, and it's as red as hell. The people on the fringes joke about digging a moat around it. If we can ever do away with the voter fraud and get rid of John Cornyn, everything will be fine.

 

[Old Man with Gun]

It would be interesting to see how the Red states feel about it when they realize the financial impact. New York pays 24 Billion more in federal taxes that it gets back in benefits, New Jersey pays about the same. Texas collects 36 Billion more than they pay. For the most part it is the blue states that fund the red states. I'm sure they would be happy to end this socialist practice.

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[EddieNFL]

We fought civil war over this.

The fed won’t give up that sweet tax money without a fight.

Cost more lives than the pending war with china

And in the end China wins...we just do most of the fighting.

 

[EddieNFL]

I grew up in a red area of CA, and it's definitely the most beautiful state. 2 hour drive in either direction and you're hiking/hunting in the mountains, or at the ocean. That being said, I've lived in Texas for the past 11 years and would never move back. Got my own 10 acres of freedom that I'd never be able to afford in CA. Plus, there's a whole lot less commies in south TX

Not if you look at it though the eyes of Hal (Jack Black).

 

[jakelly]

It would be interesting to see how the Red states feel about it when they realize the financial impact. New York pays 24 Billion more in federal taxes that it gets back in benefits, New Jersey pays about the same. Texas collects 36 Billion more than they pay. For the most part it is the blue states that fund the red states. I'm sure they would be happy to end this socialist practice.

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It’s highly contagious, extremely deadly, and there no immunity and no treatment!!!

 

[DarnYankeeUSMC]

Once the states don't have to follow fed mandates, don't have to educate illegals, don't have to pay for the healthcare of illegals and their children and a host of other things that drain the funds. You'll see government slim down to survive within their budget.

It would be interesting to see how the Red states feel about it when they realize the financial impact. New York pays 24 Billion more in federal taxes that it gets back in benefits, New Jersey pays about the same. Texas collects 36 Billion more than they pay. For the most part it is the blue states that fund the red states. I'm sure they would be happy to end this socialist practice.

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[srtsam]

It would be interesting to see how the Red states feel about it when they realize the financial impact. New York pays 24 Billion more in federal taxes that it gets back in benefits, New Jersey pays about the same. Texas collects 36 Billion more than they pay. For the most part it is the blue states that fund the red states. I'm sure they would be happy to end this socialist practice.

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Yeah yeah yeah …. someone always brings up The blue states put in and the red states take more with the exception of Texas factoid. no body said it will be easy, but I think the prospect of truly being free and living how “we” want warrants some bumpy roads for awhile. Not to mention, I’m not sure how long the blue money states would be so prosperous with everybody living in their socialist/ communist utopia.

 

[jakelly]

Once the states don't have to follow fed mandates, don't have to educate illegals, don't have to pay for the healthcare of illegals and their children and a host of other things that drain the funds. You'll see government slim down to survive within their budget.

That “study” is a bold-faced lie.

 

[srtsam]

Do you think the left would sit by watching a free state prosper and thrive while they sit in thier shithole. No , they will never be happy or content .
They hate anything that is good because they are truly evil.
They will never allow you to live the way that "you" want to.

You have to remember that a parasite cannot live without a host !

Lol, build that wall! Build that wall! Honestly, after the divide, I truly wish the left side of the country well. I sincerely hope that they succeed in creating the perfect world. It ain’t ever gonna happen, but it would be great to be proven wrong.

 

[quietmike]

It would be interesting to see how the Red states feel about it when they realize the financial impact. New York pays 24 Billion more in federal taxes that it gets back in benefits, New Jersey pays about the same. Texas collects 36 Billion more than they pay. For the most part it is the blue states that fund the red states. I'm sure they would be happy to end this socialist practice.

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It would be more interesting to watch welfare whores have to support their bastard kids by actually working, instead of suckling from the government sugar teat.

 

[sirhrmechanic]

You have to remember that a parasite cannot live without a host !

^^^ Superb statement right there! I will be stealing it!!

And the actual numbers of these little commies is small. They just scream so loud that they make you think they are a plurality.

States rights need to be reaffirmed. Central govt is what is out of control. The states will find their equilibriums.

But the parasites have to be dealt with. Or they will kill the host.

Sirhr

 

[pmclaine]

It will be self correcting.

Ten years max we will own the whole enchilada again.

 

[Old Man with Gun]

Maybe the states can manage the budget shortfalls, but Texas is not currently paying for the wall, ICE or the border patrol. Those are all federal programs.

I am not a bleeding heart liberal, I think welfare is often abused and think immigration should happen legally. But, the distribution of federal funds is a big impact to think about.

I just laugh a little when people from areas with population densities under 50 people per square mile think their tax dollars are being miss spent. Collectively they don't contribute enough to maintain roads and service.

I don't want to see any state try and go. Every state has significant populations of Republicans and Democrats. It would lead to war. A war that China and Russia will benefit from the most.

I read posts here constantly and wounder how many foreign agents are in here stirring the pot and spreading misinformation?

 

[MtnCreek]

It will be self correcting.

Ten years max we will own the whole enchilada again.

We've been going down hill since the beginning. We've tapped the breaks a few times, but even then we just slowed the decent a little. We lost liberties under Reagan. This country cannot be fixed without first being distroyed by conflict, natural disaster, or most likely complete financial collapse. If this doesn't come soon, there won't be enough American stock left to rebuild.

 

[mtrmn]

 

[MtnCreek]

Maybe the states can manage the budget shortfalls, but Texas is not currently paying for the wall, ICE or the border patrol. Those are all federal programs.

I am not a bleeding heart liberal, I think welfare is often abused and think immigration should happen legally. But, the distribution of federal funds is a big impact to think about.

I just laugh a little when people from areas with population densities under 50 people per square mile think their tax dollars are being miss spent. Collectively they don't contribute enough to maintain roads and service.

I don't want to see any state try and go. Every state has significant populations of Republicans and Democrats. It would lead to war. A war that China and Russia will benefit from the most.

I read posts here constantly and wounder how many foreign agents are in here stirring the pot and spreading misinformation?

This is the most ignorant, short sighted argument I've ever heard. Where are we, 30 trillion in debt plus way more in unfounded liabilities?

 

[forrestgump01]

This is the most ignorant, short sighted argument I've ever heard. Where are we, 30 trillion in debt plus way more in unfounded liabilities?

Go easy on him now , he probably shoots a 6.5 creed and drives a dam kubota!

 

[Old Man with Gun]

This is the most ignorant, short sighted argument I've ever heard.

I doubt that, I also doubt you could explain your position. Why do you think national debt negates the need to balance a state budget?

 

[MtnCreek]

I doubt that, I also doubt you could explain your position. Why do you think national debt negates the need to balance a state budget?

I've had some smart people try to explain why debt could continue to increase exponentially and remain stable. I'm not smart enough to understand that or those that hold the belief are complete fucking morons. Time will tell.

 

[91Eunozs]

It would be interesting to see how the Red states feel about it when they realize the financial impact. New York pays 24 Billion more in federal taxes that it gets back in benefits, New Jersey pays about the same. Texas collects 36 Billion more than they pay. For the most part it is the blue states that fund the red states. I'm sure they would be happy to end this socialist practice.

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I.e. welfare, etc. Grossly oversimplified here, but essentially paying people to not work. Pretty sure this includes federal salaries and retirement income…a lot of us former .mil and .gov types here in TX (FL too for that matter).

I’m not too keen to lose my retirement pay, but there’s a reason I went into the civilian world instead of a GS role after retiring a few years ago.

 

[vinniedelpino]

If you still think logically and live in California, you're a dumbass and deserve everything that happens to you.

I recently watched joggers and other wealthy people walking their dogs through Madison Square Park in Manhattan and thought the same thing. They were bobbing and weaving around piles of human excrement, broken glass and sleeping or passed out homeless folks.

The scariest part is that they seemed totally unaffected by the squalor around them. They’re batshit crazy.

I wondered how many of them were hopped up on benzos and ssris to be so indifferent to the world around them. It also made me wonder what role pill pushers play in politics today.

 

[EddieNFL]

It would be interesting to see how the Red states feel about it when they realize the financial impact. New York pays 24 Billion more in federal taxes that it gets back in benefits, New Jersey pays about the same. Texas collects 36 Billion more than they pay. For the most part it is the blue states that fund the red states. I'm sure they would be happy to end this socialist practice.

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Guess you'll stay blue.

 

[Carole Baskins]

If you still think logically and live in California, you're a dumbass and deserve everything that happens to you.

Brilliant.

 

[Vodoun daVinci]

The Balkanization of America is already under way and has been for years - we are all now so fragmented and divided (on so may issues) that reconciliation is impossible in my opinion. Like a married couple that just can't/won't deal with the other partner the only way to get on with Life and stop the anger and potential violence is to separate and get their own spaces.

The problem is that the folks I want divorced from live right next door or are in my own Family. Separating into 2 or more countries will require that a lot of people (maybe all of them) move to different geographic areas to concentrate/congregate with folks of their own perspective. Given the levels of hate and mistrust how is that ever going to happen?

Still waiting on someone with a viable Plan to tell me how we fix The Failed Republic. I suspect there is no possibility of "fixing" it at this point....not at all sure where we go from here now that I'm hitting the retirement age and pretty much set up to live on my Retirement Investment Fund. That said, in 2020 if California seceded it could become the worlds 5th largest economy - a $3.2 trillion gross state product (GSP) as of 2019.

California doesn't need the US and I strongly suspect (I know for a fact) that there are a lot of folks in California who would welcome secession libs and Conservatives alike. What a mess.

VooDoo

 

[Old Man with Gun]

Guess you'll stay blue.

I'm not, I actually vote Republican most of the time, I'm just don't take the koolaid without question.
I probably seem blue because I like to play devil's advocate, just try to get people to ask more questions. My opinion is that session or civil war is bad for everyone, except Russia and China.

 

[jinxx4ever]

The Balkanization of America is already under way and has been for years - we are all now so fragmented and divided (on so may issues) that reconciliation is impossible in my opinion. Like a married couple that just can't/won't deal with the other partner the only way to get on with Life and stop the anger and potential violence is to separate and get their own spaces.

The problem is that the folks I want divorced from live right next door or are in my own Family. Separating into 2 or more countries will require that a lot of people (maybe all of them) move to different geographic areas to concentrate/congregate with folks of their own perspective. Given the levels of hate and mistrust how is that ever going to happen?

Still waiting on someone with a viable Plan to tell me how we fix The Failed Republic. I suspect there is no possibility of "fixing" it at this point....not at all sure where we go from here now that I'm hitting the retirement age and pretty much set up to live on my Retirement Investment Fund. That said, in 2020 if California seceded it could become the worlds 5th largest economy - a $3.2 trillion gross state product (GSP) as of 2019.

California doesn't need the US and I strongly suspect (I know for a fact) that there are a lot of folks in California who would welcome secession libs and Conservatives alike. What a mess.

VooDoo

you really don't believe any of this u just posted, do you, the Cali part that is. Cali can't survive without the federal gov handouts. Hell, they can't even manufacture their own electricity

 

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[armorpl8chikn]

read posts here constantly and wounder how many foreign agents are in here stirring the pot and spreading misinformation?

Look in the mirror

 

[quietmike]

I probably seem blue because I like to play devil's advocate, just try to get people to ask more questions.

Everything the left offers is based on shirking personal responsibility and/or getting free stuff. They do this by taking the rights and property away from others.
There's no other question that needs to be asked.
Leftys are parasitic hypocrites who pay lip service to helping while at the same time going apoplectic that Texas would dare to prevent killing babies to avoid the consequences of being a slut.

 

[srtsam]

I'm not, I actually vote Republican most of the time, I'm just don't take the koolaid without question.
I probably seem blue because I like to play devil's advocate, just try to get people to ask more questions. My opinion is that session or civil war is bad for everyone, except Russia and China.

“ most of the time”. Nuff said.

 

[rdog52]

Let's do it. Texas first.

Amen, brother.

 

[DOA]

If you still think logically and live in California, you're a dumbass and deserve everything that happens to you.

If you think its just a CA issue or all these issues originated in CA, you are more stupid than the brother and sister who bred you.

 

[rdog52]

It would be interesting to see how the Red states feel about it when they realize the financial impact. New York pays 24 Billion more in federal taxes that it gets back in benefits, New Jersey pays about the same. Texas collects 36 Billion more than they pay. For the most part it is the blue states that fund the red states. I'm sure they would be happy to end this socialist practice.

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I would guess the whole report you linked is bogus. The numbers for Texas certainly are.

 

[NoDopes]

I think that includes SS for people that move south when they retire. Florida too. Probably a lot of illegals getting federal welfare ... I need to see the breakdown. Either way, fucki it, separate and we'll balance our budget. Well seize any federal assets to compensate for paid in SS too. The whole "you can't survive without blue money" is fake news bullshit.

 

[AllenOne1]

I would guess the whole report you linked is bogus. The numbers for Texas certainly are.

The report I found said that TX received 88 cents on the dollar back, so saying they get more than they paid well that must be that new Blue math. You know like $3T in spending won't cost anything and the government never runs out of money concept.

 

[TexPatriot]

Let's do it. Texas first.

Texas has allowed, no, invited, thanks Rick Perry, dumbfuck, so much communist, big tech trash from California into the state it would be sub-divided again in a few short years over the same issue.

And why should we surrender one square foot of the U.S. that was paid for with American blood in two world wars to the communists?