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Sooner,
Not much in the way of comps for the rifle scene but here is a website to check out. Clint organizes a few comps each year in Price. He posts here as Desertratdad.
http://utahshootouts.com/
For action pistol and an occasional three gun
http://utahshooters.org/
http://udpl.net/
Sooner,
Not much in the way of comps for the rifle scene but here is a website to check out. Clint organizes a few comps each year in Price. He posts here as Desertratdad.
http://utahshootouts.com/
For action pistol and an occasional three gun
http://utahshooters.org/
http://udpl.net/
Re: Utah
Thanks smokshwn....
You ever just get out to shoot? Looks like you can get some good range out here.
Thanks smokshwn....
You ever just get out to shoot? Looks like you can get some good range out here.
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Hello and Welcome! I went to clints match for the first time last month, it was great and the range is very nice. If you don't mind driving to Las Vegas, Curt puts on a very fun match (first Sat of every month). I have a pretty fun little range in Park City. If you ever want to get to gether for some fun shooting. I have steel out to 750 and hopefully adding another 200 yards this summmer.
Hello and Welcome! I went to clints match for the first time last month, it was great and the range is very nice. If you don't mind driving to Las Vegas, Curt puts on a very fun match (first Sat of every month). I have a pretty fun little range in Park City. If you ever want to get to gether for some fun shooting. I have steel out to 750 and hopefully adding another 200 yards this summmer.
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Yes, but don't tell everybody we already have enough assholes moving here
Plenty of room to the southwest of you. Sometimes you have to play nice with the offroaders but it is generally pretty easy to find room. Lots of places to find a road so it makes shooting at long distance must easier with respect to laying targets out.
Yes, but don't tell everybody we already have enough assholes moving here
Plenty of room to the southwest of you. Sometimes you have to play nice with the offroaders but it is generally pretty easy to find room. Lots of places to find a road so it makes shooting at long distance must easier with respect to laying targets out.
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Howdy All,
I am going to start running match's in the spring when the mud dries up out on the BLM.
I am located out of Bellevue Idaho, 60 miles North of Twin Falls. About 4 1/2 hour drive from SLC.
It will be all steel shooting with ranges from about 400 to 1100 yards and place one out to a mile for after the match fun. Rifle dueling tree, also pistol dueling tree.
I would like to run the match's both Saturday and Sundays as set-up and tear down will be quite a chore!
This will be real world field long range precision shooting. Humping your rifle and gear from FP to FP and engaging known size steel targets at various ranges. Use a lazer or your scope to get range and using a spotter for corrections.
Any sujestions on course and help with set-up and tear down would be greatley appreciated.
Jay Seaquist
[email protected]
W: 208-788-3242 X15
C: 208-720-6995
Howdy All,
I am going to start running match's in the spring when the mud dries up out on the BLM.
I am located out of Bellevue Idaho, 60 miles North of Twin Falls. About 4 1/2 hour drive from SLC.
It will be all steel shooting with ranges from about 400 to 1100 yards and place one out to a mile for after the match fun. Rifle dueling tree, also pistol dueling tree.
I would like to run the match's both Saturday and Sundays as set-up and tear down will be quite a chore!
This will be real world field long range precision shooting. Humping your rifle and gear from FP to FP and engaging known size steel targets at various ranges. Use a lazer or your scope to get range and using a spotter for corrections.
Any sujestions on course and help with set-up and tear down would be greatley appreciated.
Jay Seaquist
[email protected]
W: 208-788-3242 X15
C: 208-720-6995
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Hey Saratoga Springs is where I go to practice and sight in my rifle. You live in a great spot. If you keep driving around the lake south you will find some nice spots to shoot. If you go over to the new walmart and head west it will take you through cedar fort and out past that you can shoot for miles.
Scott
Hey Saratoga Springs is where I go to practice and sight in my rifle. You live in a great spot. If you keep driving around the lake south you will find some nice spots to shoot. If you go over to the new walmart and head west it will take you through cedar fort and out past that you can shoot for miles.
Scott
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 3gunF1guy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hey Saratoga Springs is where I go to practice and sight in my rifle. You live in a great spot. If you keep driving around the lake south you will find some nice spots to shoot. If you go over to the new walmart and head west it will take you through cedar fort and out past that you can shoot for miles.
Scott </div></div>
Be careful. Apparently 5 mile rec area has expanded and as such has taken alot or area where people used to shoot.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 3gunF1guy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hey Saratoga Springs is where I go to practice and sight in my rifle. You live in a great spot. If you keep driving around the lake south you will find some nice spots to shoot. If you go over to the new walmart and head west it will take you through cedar fort and out past that you can shoot for miles.
Scott </div></div>
Be careful. Apparently 5 mile rec area has expanded and as such has taken alot or area where people used to shoot.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jay Seaquist</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Howdy All,
I am going to start running match's in the spring when the mud dries up out on the BLM.
I am located out of Bellevue Idaho, 60 miles North of Twin Falls. About 4 1/2 hour drive from SLC.
It will be all steel shooting with ranges from about 400 to 1100 yards and place one out to a mile for after the match fun. Rifle dueling tree, also pistol dueling tree.
I would like to run the match's both Saturday and Sundays as set-up and tear down will be quite a chore!
This will be real world field long range precision shooting. Humping your rifle and gear from FP to FP and engaging known size steel targets at various ranges. Use a lazer or your scope to get range and using a spotter for corrections.
Any sujestions on course and help with set-up and tear down would be greatley appreciated.
Jay Seaquist
[email protected]
W: 208-788-3242 X15
C: 208-720-6995 </div></div>
I had a lengthy conversation this past weekend with one of the notable members here on the hide. The general comment was that these comps are becoming more “game” in nature. While I d not shoot or know IPSIC or 3-Gun the comments were that “dueling trees” and other games are moving us away from our core skills.
As a promoter I do appreciate the inherent difficulties of doing one of these comps and perhaps it is just a “nature of the beast” discussion.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jay Seaquist</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Howdy All,
I am going to start running match's in the spring when the mud dries up out on the BLM.
I am located out of Bellevue Idaho, 60 miles North of Twin Falls. About 4 1/2 hour drive from SLC.
It will be all steel shooting with ranges from about 400 to 1100 yards and place one out to a mile for after the match fun. Rifle dueling tree, also pistol dueling tree.
I would like to run the match's both Saturday and Sundays as set-up and tear down will be quite a chore!
This will be real world field long range precision shooting. Humping your rifle and gear from FP to FP and engaging known size steel targets at various ranges. Use a lazer or your scope to get range and using a spotter for corrections.
Any sujestions on course and help with set-up and tear down would be greatley appreciated.
Jay Seaquist
[email protected]
W: 208-788-3242 X15
C: 208-720-6995 </div></div>
I had a lengthy conversation this past weekend with one of the notable members here on the hide. The general comment was that these comps are becoming more “game” in nature. While I d not shoot or know IPSIC or 3-Gun the comments were that “dueling trees” and other games are moving us away from our core skills.
As a promoter I do appreciate the inherent difficulties of doing one of these comps and perhaps it is just a “nature of the beast” discussion.
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Chiller,
I agree with you completley, dueling trees have no place in a long range comp. However, after the comp they are "FUN", kind of like shooting glow sticks at night witch I also plan on doing.
My thought is to run these on Saturdays and Sundays. People would camp out so there needs to be more shooting going on than just the long range comp. With the main goal being training and learning. Hell, I'm not even going to charge people to join in. However donations for target upkeep and the like will be gratfully excepted.
I also plan on running a hunters course, targets much closer. Hoping that people will bring there kids, see what use long range guys are doing and maybe deside to join the sport.
I also plan on taking inputt from everyone that joins in and see what they would like to see. I have taken my cue from Richard at Augustis Ranch. His shoots are the best I have been to and the type of shooting I for one enjoy the most.
Jay Seaquist
Chiller,
I agree with you completley, dueling trees have no place in a long range comp. However, after the comp they are "FUN", kind of like shooting glow sticks at night witch I also plan on doing.
My thought is to run these on Saturdays and Sundays. People would camp out so there needs to be more shooting going on than just the long range comp. With the main goal being training and learning. Hell, I'm not even going to charge people to join in. However donations for target upkeep and the like will be gratfully excepted.
I also plan on running a hunters course, targets much closer. Hoping that people will bring there kids, see what use long range guys are doing and maybe deside to join the sport.
I also plan on taking inputt from everyone that joins in and see what they would like to see. I have taken my cue from Richard at Augustis Ranch. His shoots are the best I have been to and the type of shooting I for one enjoy the most.
Jay Seaquist
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Shooting a handgun is a sniper skill.
I wouldn't encourage the use of a dueling tree in a tactical rifle competition, because a single-elimination dueling tree stage eats up time which might be better spent in other tasks, but a test of handgun skill is not just perfectly legitimate, but should be required.
Shooting a handgun is a sniper skill.
I wouldn't encourage the use of a dueling tree in a tactical rifle competition, because a single-elimination dueling tree stage eats up time which might be better spent in other tasks, but a test of handgun skill is not just perfectly legitimate, but should be required.
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Having gone through Roy W. Class in Utah I do believe that the use of a pistol is very important (and a skill I need to work on).
My comment go more to the point that some competitions appear to have a more “carnival game” mentality. I am by no means the definitive knowledge source when it comes to this. It was merely intended to perhaps pose a question as to where the sport/competition is headed.
Having gone through Roy W. Class in Utah I do believe that the use of a pistol is very important (and a skill I need to work on).
My comment go more to the point that some competitions appear to have a more “carnival game” mentality. I am by no means the definitive knowledge source when it comes to this. It was merely intended to perhaps pose a question as to where the sport/competition is headed.
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Check Google earth: 40 deg 12' 43.23" north and 112 deg 20' 39.41" west. This is my secret 1000 yd range. So don't tell nobody.
In the picture the bottom of loop is the firing line. North at the bottom of the hill is the 1000 yd line. It's about 10 miles west of the designated atv area. A couple miles North of the pony express road.
I've seen more low flying choppers than atv's out there. I still go out there cause it's only half the distance from SLC as it is to Price.
On Google Earth "time slider" that straight road for the 1000 yds is not there back in 1997 or when I first drove through the area. I don't recall how it did get there.
Thought about organizing a match out there. The BLM said you can shoot all you want with whoever you want except you can't advertise or charge for an event. I guess there is a permit process with a bunch of rules a person could go through for a organized event.
Clint
p.s. My kids called me desert rat dad cause I roamed the west desert for many, many years dragging them along, looking and shooting different places. This one is one of the better. Of course I keep looking.
Check Google earth: 40 deg 12' 43.23" north and 112 deg 20' 39.41" west. This is my secret 1000 yd range. So don't tell nobody.
In the picture the bottom of loop is the firing line. North at the bottom of the hill is the 1000 yd line. It's about 10 miles west of the designated atv area. A couple miles North of the pony express road.
I've seen more low flying choppers than atv's out there. I still go out there cause it's only half the distance from SLC as it is to Price.
On Google Earth "time slider" that straight road for the 1000 yds is not there back in 1997 or when I first drove through the area. I don't recall how it did get there.
Thought about organizing a match out there. The BLM said you can shoot all you want with whoever you want except you can't advertise or charge for an event. I guess there is a permit process with a bunch of rules a person could go through for a organized event.
Clint
p.s. My kids called me desert rat dad cause I roamed the west desert for many, many years dragging them along, looking and shooting different places. This one is one of the better. Of course I keep looking.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: desertratdad</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Check Google earth: 40 deg 12' 43.23" north and 112 deg 20' 39.41" west. This is my secret 1000 yd range. So don't tell nobody.
In the picture the bottom of loop is the firing line. North at the bottom of the hill is the 1000 yd line. It's about 10 miles west of the designated atv area. A couple miles North of the pony express road.
I've seen more low flying choppers than atv's out there. I still go out there cause it's only half the distance from SLC as it is to Price.
On Google Earth "time slider" that straight road for the 1000 yds is not there back in 1997 or when I first drove through the area. I don't recall how it did get there.
Thought about organizing a match out there. The BLM said you can shoot all you want with whoever you want except you can't advertise or charge for an event. I guess there is a permit process with a bunch of rules a person could go through for a organized event.
Clint
p.s. My kids called me desert rat dad cause I roamed the west desert for many, many years dragging them along, looking and shooting different places. This one is one of the better. Of course I keep looking. </div></div>
Clint,
That is exactly the area in question. It is my understanding that the 5-Mile recreation area has increased their footprint and as such has this on a area that you can no longer legally shoot. Would recommend you give George L. or Ray W. a call and see what their understanding is. Would hate to have a issue where you get in trouble and rifles get confiscated.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: desertratdad</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Check Google earth: 40 deg 12' 43.23" north and 112 deg 20' 39.41" west. This is my secret 1000 yd range. So don't tell nobody.
In the picture the bottom of loop is the firing line. North at the bottom of the hill is the 1000 yd line. It's about 10 miles west of the designated atv area. A couple miles North of the pony express road.
I've seen more low flying choppers than atv's out there. I still go out there cause it's only half the distance from SLC as it is to Price.
On Google Earth "time slider" that straight road for the 1000 yds is not there back in 1997 or when I first drove through the area. I don't recall how it did get there.
Thought about organizing a match out there. The BLM said you can shoot all you want with whoever you want except you can't advertise or charge for an event. I guess there is a permit process with a bunch of rules a person could go through for a organized event.
Clint
p.s. My kids called me desert rat dad cause I roamed the west desert for many, many years dragging them along, looking and shooting different places. This one is one of the better. Of course I keep looking. </div></div>
Clint,
That is exactly the area in question. It is my understanding that the 5-Mile recreation area has increased their footprint and as such has this on a area that you can no longer legally shoot. Would recommend you give George L. or Ray W. a call and see what their understanding is. Would hate to have a issue where you get in trouble and rifles get confiscated.
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Yeah, I wouldn't shoot out there in the 5 mile area. I am sure guys are still doing it, but its a good way to meet the deputies.
I think it has something to do with the number of accidental shootings that routinely occur out there.
I even got a call one day. They asked, were you shooting out there today, I said no,
oh good, those weren't your bullets that we found in the living room in Saratoga. !!!
Yeah, I wouldn't shoot out there in the 5 mile area. I am sure guys are still doing it, but its a good way to meet the deputies.
I think it has something to do with the number of accidental shootings that routinely occur out there.
I even got a call one day. They asked, were you shooting out there today, I said no,
oh good, those weren't your bullets that we found in the living room in Saratoga. !!!
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Just make sure that you are well west of the 5 mile recreation area.
But, fences are popping up all over the desert.
Just make sure that you are well west of the 5 mile recreation area.
But, fences are popping up all over the desert.
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Just for the record. They have not expanded the 5 mile Rec area. The change that has happened is a while back they made the Rec area a no shooting area too.
Going West on the Pony Express road from 5 mile pass is a big sign that shows the boundary of the Rec area (No Shooting Area). Out west of there is where those coordinates are.
Just for the record. They have not expanded the 5 mile Rec area. The change that has happened is a while back they made the Rec area a no shooting area too.
Going West on the Pony Express road from 5 mile pass is a big sign that shows the boundary of the Rec area (No Shooting Area). Out west of there is where those coordinates are.
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I'm actually over in Morgan... nothing but private property here. Snaglytooth, if you'd like some company some time I'd love to find a place closer than the West desert to stretch the legs on the .300. If anyone knows of an area near Morgan I'm all ears.
I'm actually over in Morgan... nothing but private property here. Snaglytooth, if you'd like some company some time I'd love to find a place closer than the West desert to stretch the legs on the .300. If anyone knows of an area near Morgan I'm all ears.
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Look up "Utah Shooting Sports Council" on their home page on the left, click on "organizations of interest to Utah gun owners" that gives you 60 or 70 shooting organizations in Utah.
The USSC is a great place to find out about Utah gun laws in progress and everything else about guns.
Send them your email address for free email alerts and info.
Look up "Utah Shooting Sports Council" on their home page on the left, click on "organizations of interest to Utah gun owners" that gives you 60 or 70 shooting organizations in Utah.
The USSC is a great place to find out about Utah gun laws in progress and everything else about guns.
Send them your email address for free email alerts and info.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: desertratdad</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Thought about organizing a match out there. The BLM said you can shoot all you want with whoever you want except you can't advertise or charge for an event. I guess there is a permit process with a bunch of rules a person could go through for a organized event.
Clint
p.s. My kids called me desert rat dad cause I roamed the west desert for many, many years dragging them along, looking and shooting different places. This one is one of the better. Of course I keep looking. </div></div>
You and me both on tooling around the desert.
BLM Utah (and probably everywhere else) requires that a plan for the event be filed, and proof of insurance for the even, minimum $1 million, BLM as a named insured.
All my insurance industry contacts are life and health, not property and casualty, so I've never priced it out.
AFIC, what happens AFTER any group of shooters meet is between them, especially if it happens OFF of BLM land.
Reportedly, Utah School Trusts land people are much easier to get approval for formal hosted paid events. Never got all the details, but I *did* identify some
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: desertratdad</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Thought about organizing a match out there. The BLM said you can shoot all you want with whoever you want except you can't advertise or charge for an event. I guess there is a permit process with a bunch of rules a person could go through for a organized event.
Clint
p.s. My kids called me desert rat dad cause I roamed the west desert for many, many years dragging them along, looking and shooting different places. This one is one of the better. Of course I keep looking. </div></div>
You and me both on tooling around the desert.
BLM Utah (and probably everywhere else) requires that a plan for the event be filed, and proof of insurance for the even, minimum $1 million, BLM as a named insured.
All my insurance industry contacts are life and health, not property and casualty, so I've never priced it out.
AFIC, what happens AFTER any group of shooters meet is between them, especially if it happens OFF of BLM land.
Reportedly, Utah School Trusts land people are much easier to get approval for formal hosted paid events. Never got all the details, but I *did* identify some
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Rat, I usually shoot in that general area, though I go across the railroad tracks and turn south. I looked at the satellite image of your 'secret undisclosed location'. Do you shoot towards the north? It looks like you could set up targets close to the road that heads that way.
Rat, I usually shoot in that general area, though I go across the railroad tracks and turn south. I looked at the satellite image of your 'secret undisclosed location'. Do you shoot towards the north? It looks like you could set up targets close to the road that heads that way.
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Ya, that's what that road is for. Toward the North you can set targets up on both sides anywhere out to the 1000 yds. Then drive out and back. You can move back and shoot a mile or mile and a half if you want. I would except I can't hit the 1000 yd yet.
I've shot 3 different directions from that same spot. East, West, and North, just playing around. It's maybe two miles South to the Pony Express Road and a lot of times there are people in that direction doing some shooting.
It would be fun if somebody did a match out on the desert somewhere, like the Area 51 match a few years ago. That was maybe the funnest match I ever went to. And we got super cool T shirts.
Ya, that's what that road is for. Toward the North you can set targets up on both sides anywhere out to the 1000 yds. Then drive out and back. You can move back and shoot a mile or mile and a half if you want. I would except I can't hit the 1000 yd yet.
I've shot 3 different directions from that same spot. East, West, and North, just playing around. It's maybe two miles South to the Pony Express Road and a lot of times there are people in that direction doing some shooting.
It would be fun if somebody did a match out on the desert somewhere, like the Area 51 match a few years ago. That was maybe the funnest match I ever went to. And we got super cool T shirts.
