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Video of guy filming two cops who got shot.

Wow.

Love how NO ONE can stop filming to go help a fellow human.

and people wanna say I am the problem????

Lord have mercy on us all. Please
People that fall into the category you and I are part of ARE the problem. It is impossible to get the herd to go in one direction, if they see someone else off to the side. Tendency is to go see what the ones away from the group are doing, which makes the herder have to lose focus on the group to figure out how to get you back into the collective. The way I see it lately, the problem is the solution if that makes sense.
 
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What needs to happen is all those people standing around taking video need to be charged with failure to stop and render Aid. Since it involves police, make it a capital offense.

because we need more govt telling us what to do.
they (police, DA’s) just need to enforce the laws on the books.
they dont, because people might get upset.
 
What needs to happen is all those people standing around taking video need to be charged with failure to stop and render Aid. Since it involves police, make it a capital offense.

I'm going to strongly disagree with you on that because it's a horrible idea for a law that will ONLY be used to go after good folks, or simply to go after anyone who was nearby something that happened for revenge... just like the National Socialists used to do.
Especially your asinine, absolutely terrifyingly totalitarian idea that "failure to render aid to the King's Men should be a capital crime."
Really you should think long and hard about what you are saying.

The police officially (and they are happy to mention it), don't have any obligation to protect the serfs.
(Just look at all the recent riots where the police left all the good people alone to face the murderous mobs and only came back later. In some cases, specifically to go after those that were forced to defend themselves).

Why should the serfs then have an obligation to protect or help the King's Men?

Stop going for the "special animals" argument so wholeheartedly. The law should treat everyone equal, the fact that it doesn't is actually what is causing a huge amount of the problems in this country.

Compelling someone to do something for someone else without their consent or agreement or under threat.... well... NOT freedom.

I'm in no way saying you shouldn't be ready to assist or help your local Law Enforcement, if they need it, and ask for it and would appreciate it.
I would be be happy to offer my assistance if they needed it, just as I would to anyone else that I saw in danger and needing help.

But I will NOT tolerate being told that I have to do something, especially when I have to then assume all costs, liability and risk on myself (UNLIKE the police who have little of that to worry about).

If nobody will help them out of the kindness of their hearts, then "let's make another law" that we can brutally use to oppress folks is actually only going to make things twice as bad as then everybody will have a very good reason to make sure they saw nothing, heard nothing and weren't anywhere around.
 
I’ve said for the longest. All babies should be spayed/neutered at birth. Then when you want to have children.... Are you up to the task. Ok we’ll reverse it 🤪

Another really bad idea.
Sorry but letting the government have control over your bodies reproductive abilities WILL be used for the worst of purposes by those that hate you.
DON'T kid yourself about it.

If you want a long lesson in the horror of it and the National Socialist experiments and early USA Elitist Eugenics experiments are past your attention span, just look at China, both recent history and how they are using mass forced sterilization as a tool to genocide the Muslims they don't like.
 
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Another really bad idea.
Sorry but letting the government have control over your bodies reproductive abilities WILL be used for the worst of purposes by those that hate you.
DON'T kid yourself about it.

If you want a long lesson in the horror of it and the National Socialist experiments and early USA Elitist Eugenics experiments are past your attention span, just look at China, both recent history and how they are using mass forced sterilization as a tool to genocide the Muslims they don't like.

Surely you don’t think I’m serious
 
Surely you don’t think I’m serious

You may not be, (as your scenario is way out there) but unfortunately there are a lot of folks that think the government should have some role in determining who gets to engage in reproduction and not. You'd be surprised how many times people make actual serious comments to that end here.
 
Look....we don't have "Kings Men" here in the USA. Somebody is either English and still thinks they are in their home country or has watched too many movies.

Here, we are all citizens including..... the police.

Personally, I find it contemptible to take the view that "government" including the police are supposed to handle all of our problems and that citizens have no responsibility for aiding in our lawfulness.

I'm NOT talking about vigilantes or asshats going out looking for trouble while strolling around with their single point slung AR's and knocking themselves in the nuts with it with every step.

If I see a cop in trouble and going down, I'm going to try to help because he is another citizen risking his life for shitty pay to protect me and provide for lawfulness for us all.

The attitude I saw expressed above by a member reminds me of the story a decade or more ago about a person being stabbed on the streets of Manhattan in broad daylight and people just walking on by.....guess they were waiting for the "king's men" also.

I just can't express properly how vehemently I disagree with that view.

Cheers
 
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Look....we don't have "Kings Men" here in the USA. Somebody is either English and still thinks they are in their home country or has watched too many movies.

Enjoy walking around with your blinders on.
We have a very large amount of "King's Men" in this country. Them and their actions are on display front and center almost every day.
You may also not be fully comprehending what that term refers to in current American political parlance.

Here, we are all citizens including..... the police.

It would be great if we were all equal citizens with one set of laws for everyone, enforced the same way, but if you think that's actually how things really work.... Nice to live in fantasy land there.

You might note I specifically pointed out the problem with the original persons idea, being that they wanted very clearly to make sure that the "Specially privileged" were "More equal" and "More protected" than the serfs, but that may have gone way over your head also.

If I see a cop in trouble and going down, I'm going to try to help because he is another citizen risking his life for shitty pay to protect me and provide for lawfulness for us all.

The attitude I saw expressed above by a member reminds me of the story a decade or more ago about a person being stabbed on the streets of Manhattan in broad daylight and people just walking on by.....guess they were waiting for the "king's men" also.

I'm not sure what exact episode you are referring to, but it sounds like a hearsay alluding to the 1960s story of Kitty Genovese, which was sensationally reported and then only later was it admitted that the whole part about large numbers of witnesses doing nothing was pretty much "fake news" and the reporting had been sensationalized without any evidence to back up the lurid claims of masses of uncaring witnesses.

I guess you are probably of the TL/DR generation as if you had actually read up, you'd see that it was clearly stated that I would be glad to assist the police if they needed my help, in the same way I'd be happy to assist anyone else that needed help. I insisted however that it MUST be my free choice to decide to help and NOT some death threat from the government.

Especially like as just shown in New York, you can "do the right thing" and stop somebody who is violently raping a woman in public, in broad daylight and hold them for the police and then be comforted in knowing that they will be back out on the street in almost no time, free to commit more crimes and oh like has happened recently, go after those who tried to stop you or report you to the police...

I'm NOT talking about vigilantes or asshats going out looking for trouble while strolling around with their single point slung AR's and knocking themselves in the nuts with it with every step.

Do you have something against people walking around with modern effective tools for self defense?
How do you expect to go help some police officer that is loosing the fight against a large mob or armed or significantly strong attackers, unless you have significant and effective weaponry on you? The asking them pretty please has obviously not worked...

You seem to miss the entire warning that we are once again being led down a path to give up our rights & liberties for the false sense of "safety" and we should vehemently resist ANY attempt to have laws enacted eroding our freedoms and rights, INCLUDING our right to choose to act or not act as we determine the best course of action is.
 
Wow.

Love how NO ONE can stop filming to go help a fellow human.

and people wanna say I am the problem????

Lord have mercy on us all. Please
A fellow human? Where the fuck do you see a human taking those videos? I see a bunch of animals that have the IQ and remorse of cockroaches at best.