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Rifle Scopes Vortex Razor HD EBR-3 MRAD Reticle 5-20-Feed back

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#1
Hi,

Does anyone have anymore feed back on this scope. I did read the review done here. For me personally, the biggest concern seems to be eye relief at higher magnification. Can anyone comment any further? Was the issue truly eye relief or was it limited field of view.

I'd appreciate any more first hand knowledge that could be provided. Pictures are always good too!
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CB
 
#2
Re: Vortex Razor HD EBR-3 MRAD Reticle 5-20-Feed back

I have no issues with eye relief on mine. It sits on top of a 6.5x47, so I am not hammering recoil either. I have 50 rounds via initial sight-in and a range session, and it does everything that it is supposed to do. I am taking mine to the Cup this year, so we'll see how it does. In my limited experience, I think it's a fantastic scope.
 
#3
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JP,

Glad to hear it!

This is one of the scopes I am considering for my .308. Which reticle do you have? Might you be willing to post a through the scope reticle view?

CB
 
#4
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It wasn't an issue of eye relief. The issue was that it was a little more sensitive to eye position (in regards to dead center) than Lowlight would have liked. A more forgiving scope would allow your head to be more caddywampus in regards to good cheek weld and still let you get a good sight picture without shadowing.

Since I'm told (albeit by CKA) that Lowlight enjoys shooting in positions where he can simultaneously self-fellate, I am guessing he is a bit more discerning than most in this regards and it is not really an issue for most shooters at their local range or comfy in their tree-stand.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ratbert</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It wasn't an issue of eye relief. The issue was that it was a little more sensitive to eye position (in regards to dead center) than Lowlight would have liked. A more forgiving scope would allow your head to be more caddywampus in regards to good cheek weld and still let you get a good sight picture without shadowing.

Since I'm told (albeit by CKA) that Lowlight enjoys shooting in positions where he can simultaneously self-fellate, I am guessing he is a bit more discerning than most in this regards and it is not really an issue for most shooters at their local range or comfy in their tree-stand.

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That way you can shoot while you shoot
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hydro556</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This thread is disgusting. there are lines that shouldnt be crossed. They just shouldnt. You cant un-see some mental images. I am going to get a towel to clean the vomit off the floor. </div></div>

Apologies hydro, I just found Ratbert's post F'in hilarious.
 
#8
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ALMAORFE</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hydro556</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This thread is disgusting. there are lines that shouldnt be crossed. They just shouldnt. You cant un-see some mental images. I am going to get a towel to clean the vomit off the floor. </div></div>

Apologies hydro, I just found Ratbert's post F'in hilarious.</div></div>

He's just embarrassed. The bodily fluid my description brought forth due to his mental image wasn't vomit and we all know it. It's ok man, you won't go blind.

Now if you'll excuse me, it's time to shave my palms...
 
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I have a Razor with an EBR-3 reticle and will be trying it out on unknown dist. shooting at the end of the week...will let you know how the 0.1mil subs work for me. Of course you give up the "Christmas Tree" for elev/wind holds and also the small center gap so I'll have to see if the 0.1mil subs make up for it. Really would like the EBR-3 with the center gap.

I did try it in the back yard out to 100yds and got more accurate ranging than using a Leupold MK4 (at 20x) with TMR because I was able to estimate down to 0.05mil. Disclaimer, however it was not in "field" conditions, no mirage, bright sunlight etc. Also the MK4 does not have a separate reticle focus (seems a big omission to me) so the reticle is always a little fuzzy. The subs are or course right at the ends of the FOV and take some getting used to when on 20x.

No problem with the eye relief, the scope is well forward and I've worked on the Tac-Ops cheek pad to make sure I'm lined up.
 
#13
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Great to hear that, Scott.

OUD, I'm eager to learn your experience with EBR-3. Giving up "Christmas Tree" is less unpleasant to me than losing the center gap. I have EBR-2. That tree is barely visible, may work under ideal lighting and suitably contrast background - but hardly usable in the field.

Actually a hybrid reticle would be nice - half-number of the drop tree with more pronounced dots, center gap, 0.1 mrad subtentions.

Scott, any plans for that?
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Also, I'd like to hear from Scott why he chose EBR-3 only, and not even one EBR-2.
 
#14
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mouse07410</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Great to hear that, Scott.

OUD, I'm eager to learn your experience with EBR-3. Giving up "Christmas Tree" is less unpleasant to me than losing the center gap. I have EBR-2. That tree is barely visible, may work under ideal lighting and suitably contrast background - but hardly usable in the field.

Actually a hybrid reticle would be nice - half-number of the drop tree with more pronounced dots, center gap, 0.1 mrad subtentions.

Scott, any plans for that?
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Also, I'd like to hear from Scott why he chose EBR-3 only, and not even one EBR-2. </div></div>

I guess I am more traditional and personally dont like busy reticles and I am not a big fan of open centers either, but with that being said the open center on the ebr-2 actually works pretty well as it is very small and doesnt leave you "guessing" to much at distance like a bigger open center does for precise shots. Plus I do like having the .1 subs for more precise ranging when time allows for it.


Scott
 
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Scott, thank you! Could you tell (from your experience) how clear (i.e. easy to see) are those 0.1 mrad subtentions? Say compared to 0.2 mrad on EBR-2?
 
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mouse,
used the scope at the weekend out to 1000yds. The 0.1 subs worked great with both overcast and sunny conditions. With no mirage I could estimate down to 0.05mil. I didn't miss the 'Christmas Tree'. For hold over/under I just dialed in wind and fine tuned by holding left or right edge of target.
 
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oud272, thank you!! Useful info for selecting the reticle in my next Razor (the current one has EBR-2).

I guess the only case when "Christmas Tree" is useful (assuming it's visible at all
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) is when you need to engage multiple targets at different distances very quickly (with no time to re-dial between the shots)... Not that I've been in that situation (yet?
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).

Vortex, when is EBR-4 (0.1 subs, empty center, Christmas tree) about to hit the road?
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#19
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mouse07410</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Scott, thank you! Could you tell (from your experience) how clear (i.e. easy to see) are those 0.1 mrad subtentions? Say compared to 0.2 mrad on EBR-2? </div></div>Honestly they are just as easy to use IMO. They definitely help out on ranging drills/stages etc..


Scott
 
#20
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I've got 2 razors with ebr-3 reticles from Scott at Liberty optics.

The scopes are almost as good as his customer service. I asked Scott on the last order if it would be possible to have the scope by Thursday. I wanted to have time to get it sighted in before the weekend match. I made the phone call Monday Afternoon, I had the scope Tuesday morning...I don't know how he did it but that is the fastest I have received anything, ever from a called in order.

Both scopes run fine. I have had "0" problems with either scope. I decided to run the ebr-3 because it closely resembles the GAP reticle in my USO SN-3.
 
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mouse,
no problem with multiple targets, takes less than a couple of seconds to dial wind in - I haven't tried it but it would probably take me that to find the windage hold on the reticle. Also there are no 'windage' lines at the 0.5mil marks or on the top side (hold under)of the reticle so you are still holding on the target with no clear aiming point. If you zero at 600yds and are shooting closer you have nowhere to hold for wind even on EBR-2. The EBR-3 is the one for me.

Just like osuarchitect when I first got my Razor I needed it quick but I was also trading in an item. David @ SWFA gave me GREAT service, sent the scope to me the same day he received my trade in and I got it within a couple of days.
 
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