After almost 4 weeks of searching th internet for a new/used PST, I finely gave up and opted for a good deal on a Mark 4 8.5-25 illuminated.. Literally with 7 minutes of transferring the money via paypal for the Mark 4, a buddy called me and told me he found one on another forum....long story short, I now have almost $2000 invested in two scopes..try explaining that to your fiance while saving for our wedding in July. The PST came in the mail today and the Mark 4 shold be here by the weekend. Gonna try out each one and sell the one I like the least. (sorry for the shitty picture quality)