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Wanting to Reload...Need basic Equipment...?

eboggs

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Hi all,

Been reading quite a bit about reloading lately...Mainly because i cant afford ammo...(Really) theres just other priorities out there right now
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Now, im not sure what im jumping into so i wanted to ask, as i couldnt find anything specific..

I want to reload .308 only..may reload 5.56 someday too..

I want to keep my setup smiple (AKA cheap) but servicable. I dont have an unlimited budget..sorry.

Ive been looking at Single stage? Lee's and dillons?

Honestly i dont really know what all equipment i need to just get started..i have brass..

OF COURSE BOOKS..but before i get a couple im looking at i want to make sure its practical (in my budget) to start reloading at this time.

I hope you can help me out here.

Ethan
 
Re: Wanting to Reload...Need basic Equipment...?

Sierra Reloading Manual.

Forester Co-Ax press
RCBS Charge Master
Redding Standard Dies
1 Chamfer Tool
RCBS Hand Priming Tool (36 dollar one, not the 52 dollar one)

This is a Bare minimum list I would start with.
I put the Chargemaster in the list because its something that would you would probably upgrade too later but it can save you money now.
Or you Could buy a balance beam, a powder throw, and a trickler.
But buy the manual first
 
Re: Wanting to Reload...Need basic Equipment...?

I see alot of Single stage presses for under $100.

Is there something wrong with this?

Obviously not as good of quality..

But they wouldnt work?

Thanks for the help/info though!

Ethan
 
Re: Wanting to Reload...Need basic Equipment...?

I've never used a Lee press, but there are people that have loaded on them for 40 years. I've had various Lee tools and dies. They're certainly not as well made as most of the other brands, but that does not stop them from being effective. Simple in-expensive tools that work, in general (avoid the Lee powder scale though).
 
Re: Wanting to Reload...Need basic Equipment...?

If you are dead set on the least expensive stuff, a search on Yahoo produced this video, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYS_3VsmOP0&feature=related

I use the RCBS Rockchucker, redding and forster dies, lee powder throw, Denver Instruments Scale (mxx-123), lee primer, lyman trimmer (I don't suggest the lyman after having it), and not sure what company's deburring tool. I think that covers my basic stuff, which I am mostly happy with.

Hope it helped ya
 
Re: Wanting to Reload...Need basic Equipment...?

Your best bet is to a Lee Challenger kit.
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=121744
The scale isn't the best so when you can upgrade to a RCBS 505.
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=758842
Get a primer flash hole tool.
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productnumber=729748
Get a case trimmer and length gauge.
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productnumber=476992
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productnumber=271467
Get a shell holder.
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=616684
Get some dies.
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=351725
Get a trickler.
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productnumber=487186
Hope that helps. The Lee stuff may not be the best on the market but it works good and for the price it will pay for itself in short order. You can always upgrade later.
 
Re: Wanting to Reload...Need basic Equipment...?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eboggs</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I see a lot of single-stage presses for under $100. Is there something wrong with this?

Obviously not as good of quality...but, wouldn't they work? </div></div>
Actually, the Redding <span style="font-style: italic">Boss</span> is in that price range, and it is a top quality press. Also, it's the right size for what you're loading. If you use it with a good beam scale (RCBS 502, Redding or Dillon) and with good quality dies (Forster and Redding), you can make ammo as good as anybody's. You'll need a few accessories, and I'll suggest that you look at Sinclair's catalog. You don't need everything or the most expensive, but a few of the right pieces will make life much easier.

I'll make a few recommendations for you to complement what's been suggested:

Lee powder dippers and a trickler - Redding makes the best one. The few dollars extra is money well spent. Makes for a basic and economical powder dispensing facility. Nothing is more accurate.

VLD inside chamfer tool; a long inside chamfer aids initial bullet alignment when seating. Lyman and RCBS both have inexpensive ones. You'll also need a tool for the outside burr.

Caliber-specific loading blocks. Sinclair's are very nice, but Frankford Arsenal (MidWay) has less expensive ones; they're also available from MidSouth. The Satern funnel (Sinclair), also caliber-specific, is more expensive, but makes life a lot easier.

It sounds like you're not ready to afford bushing and micrometer dies, but a Forster standard set gives you the same seater design as the micrometer units, and the FL sizer has design advantages with the location of its sizing button. Many prefer, especially with factory barrels, to use a Lee collet die (neck sizes only) in conjunction with a Redding body die for the sizing operation instead of a FL die. The dies are the key to building straight ammo.

You can use the press's priming device, at least until you obtain the priming tool of your preference.

Sinclair has a little gauge for measuring your rifle's chamber length; it's only a few dollars. It will tell you if you need to be concerned immediately with case trimming. The Lee trimmer is inexpensive, but doesn't allow adjustment. The Wilson trimmer is not expensive in its basic form, and it's the nicest manual trimmer available. It can be bolted to a block of wood and clamped to the bench when needed or placed in a vise if you prefer. Possum Hollow's trimmer is inexpensive and adjustable. It's worthy of your interest.

A small screw driver or the Lee primer pocket cleaner serve for that purpose. If you find a burr on the flash hole, it can be reduced with a hand-held twist drill bit.

A pair of end cutters from Harbor Freight ($5) can be used to pull bullets, using the press as an extractor. Pad the bullet to prevent damage.

You will need a dial caliper. The less expensive ones are made in China, and they will serve your purpose.

Imperial sizing wax. It does the best job, and it's convenient to use.

You'll also need a way to clean your brass. A wide-mouthed jug (kitty litter, etc.) and electric dishwasher liquid with hot water will get them clean. Shake vigorously, soak, and shake again. A large collander (WalMart) will help rinse. Putting them in a mesh bag and then into a load of clothes (washing machine) or in an electric dishwasher will do it with less effort, although some object to the practice. The <span style="font-style: italic">plate warmer</span> option leaves brass dry.

Hope this is helpful for you.
 
Re: Wanting to Reload...Need basic Equipment...?

On a tight budget, these tools are great values:

Lee Classic Cast (iron, not aluminum) single stage press

Forster benchrest die set (if you can't afford these, 2nd choice is Hornady

Lee perfect powder measure (lee dippers are a distant second)

Wilson trimmer and case holder for your cartridge (if you can't afford this, go with the Lee trimmer system)

Lee autoprime and Lee shell holder for autoprime

FA digital calipers

Sure, there are nicer/better tools available than these, but these will serve you well until you find what you like/dislike, and can make an informed decision about upgrades as desire and budget allow.

Andy
 
Re: Wanting to Reload...Need basic Equipment...?

hey man. i was in the same boat you are in now. a few hide members really hooked me up. i might have a few things you could have. if interested. let me know.