We may finally know who’s been to the island

Trump and his people are now turning into what we voted against in the first place. Talk about bait & switch, this is a classic case.
it looks like Trump is sinking himself and MAGA. i heard more weapons to Ukraine? deeper involvement in ME (for the benefit of Israel)? the tariffs remain a question mark to me anyway. int'l finance is too complicated-prob for a reason. the debt continues to grow. no action against the obviously corrupt elements. poss exceptions to deportation of some wet backs? continued stonewalling on Epstein? that gets a lg amt of attention vs some of the other stuff. for a distraction? nothing for real on JFK,RFK,MLK. hate to say it,hope to be wrong but looking like we bought another fake out.
to me all this should be obviously damaging to the admin. so,why is it let slide? should be painfully obvious as an agenda killer. unless the agenda has not changed in any real way?
 
it looks like Trump is sinking himself and MAGA. i heard more weapons to Ukraine? deeper involvement in ME (for the benefit of Israel)? the tariffs remain a question mark to me anyway. int'l finance is too complicated-prob for a reason. the debt continues to grow. no action against the obviously corrupt elements. poss exceptions to deportation of some wet backs? continued stonewalling on Epstein? that gets a lg amt of attention vs some of the other stuff. for a distraction? nothing for real on JFK,RFK,MLK. hate to say it,hope to be wrong but looking like we bought another fake out.
to me all this should be obviously damaging to the admin. so,why is it let slide? should be painfully obvious as an agenda killer. unless the agenda has not changed in any real way?
Looking to me like everything from him to date, is just base surface appeasement for the none thinkers. I don't see anything that shows movement to a better America. All I see is more of the same, w/a little lipstick on it to appease the simpletons. Like I've maintained from his first day in office in 16,... He Is Part Of The Plan & In On It.
Maybe that is what Elon learned as well?
 
Looking to me like everything from him to date, is just base surface appeasement for the none thinkers. I don't see anything that shows movement to a better America. All I see is more of the same, w/a little lipstick on it to appease the simpletons. Like I've maintained from his first day in office in 16,... He Is Part Of The Plan & In On It.
Maybe that is what Elon learned as well?
Go ahead and tell me 'I told you so'. I'm so disappointed. When he lashed out at the reporter today who was asking about Epstein, my jaw dropped. I'm sure there are a lot of names associated with Epstein regardless if there was a list. Why not, at least, release the list of people who were flown to the island. This is mind blowing. F'd again and still no kiss.
 
there are those who doubt Elon. i don't see him doing anything bad for the US. whether or not DOGE was a fake show i don't know. nothing has been done with it. that is not on Elon. it's on FBI and DOJ mostly. we all know how much they are interested in MAGA action. his break with Trump looks real but who knows. a 3rd party will whack the reps unless the commies come up with an alt too. 4 parties in a contest? cool.
 
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A good read on the Epstein topic, Bondi's incompetence and corruptibility and Trump.

Obviously, President Trump is not happy with attention focused on the Epstein issues. The most likely reason for the frustration expressed is simply that President Trump is unaware how much the Epstein issues are -and have been- part of the background focus within the base of his support. Here’s the segment. WATCH:
Second, everyone here has a reasonable BS detector – meaning we can tell when a person is not telling the truth. It is transparently obvious AG Pam Bondi is extremely uncomfortable with the Epstein issue, and her responses indicate she is not being honest or forthright. You could say, she’s lying; however, the facts of her presentation are a little more complicated.
The main issue around Bondi’s less-than-fulsome response is the motive. Is she lying because she’s just grossly incompetent about the issue, or is she lying because she is nefarious in her intent. The Occam’s Razor answer to her obvious parseltongue is a combination of both.
Former AG Pam Bondi, now Attorney General Pam Bondi is entirely over her head when it comes to highly sensitive and critically important issues. She does not have the intellectual acumen to engage on a subject that is both complex and sensitive. Bondi is an unmoored ship, floating in the direction of tides, waves and winds on any particular subject.
This aspect of Pam Bondi’s character was why CTH was out front of the nomination in saying this could be a problem. If she was willing to go along with the fabrication of a false witness in the Zimmerman case, what does that tell us about predicting her behavior as the U.S. Attorney General? That reality was the source of our concern. Now people are starting to see it surface.
Bondi is both lying from incompetence, simply her words do not pass the standard of common sense, and she is lying from a position that the DOJ/FBI claims just simply do not add up.
Lastly, regarding President Trump. There is a membrane around the President that is very difficult to penetrate. President Trump has guards around him that do not allow information to enter against their priority interests. Trump’s handlers, specifically Bondi’s key ally, Susie Wiles, have an agenda for President Trump, and they control his domestic political worldview by controlling the information that reaches him.
Yes, President Trump has handlers, monitors, who steer the subjects they want into his field of vision. If there is an issue they do not prioritize, he simply does not see it. The same applies to all Presidents and all Executives in positions of power, the issue is not exclusive to President Trump, and we all have reference points – albeit with less consequence.
President Trump is blind to the importance of the Jeffrey Epstein story, because he is disconnected from realizing the importance of the issue to his support base. It really is that simple. To him, this looks like a distraction, because from his well managed perspective this is not an issue the guards have drawn attention to.
Unfortunately, it takes time for information to penetrate the politically protective membrane around President Trump; but when it does, he will react to it. The ammunition this issue has provided to his enemies will quickly be noted by Dan Scavino Jr., Melania Trump and Barron Trump.
https://theconservativetreehouse.co...tinued-jeffrey-epstein-questions/#more-273934
 
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I'm not buying any of the he does not know, or is unaware shit. What I will buy is he is in on a massive coverup. Everything I read there (above) is the swamp covering its ass.
i also assume trump was told the same things that kash, blondi and dan were told.
the truth is antisemitic or...

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there are those who doubt Elon. i don't see him doing anything bad for the US. whether or not DOGE was a fake show i don't know. nothing has been done with it. that is not on Elon. it's on FBI and DOJ mostly. we all know how much they are interested in MAGA action. his break with Trump looks real but who knows. a 3rd party will whack the reps unless the commies come up with an alt too. 4 parties in a contest? cool.
I don't believe there really is a contest. 2 parties, 3 parties, 10 parties, all the same. A REAL choice for the people will never be allowed to succeed. That's how powerful the evil that controls this world is-in this world.
 
I don't believe there really is a contest. 2 parties, 3 parties, 10 parties, all the same. A REAL choice for the people will never be allowed to succeed. That's how powerful the evil that controls this world is-in this world.

Noooooo!

We HAVE to spout the dogma of the virtuous “us” against the evil “them!”
 
“I do not know whether it is to yourself or Mr. Adams I am to give my thanks for the copy of the new constitution. I beg leave through you to place them where due. It will be yet three weeks before I shall receive them from America. There are very good articles in it: and very bad. I do not know which preponderate. What we have lately read in the history of Holland, in the chapter on the Stadtholder, would have sufficed to set me against a Chief magistrate eligible for a long duration, if I had ever been disposed towards one: and what we have always read of the elections of Polish kings should have forever excluded the idea of one continuable for life. Wonderful is the effect of impudent and persevering lying. The British ministry have so long hired their gazetteers to repeat and model into every form lies about our being in anarchy, that the world has at length believed them, the English nation has believed them, the ministers themselves have come to believe them, and what is more wonderful, we have believed them ourselves. Yet where does this anarchy exist? Where did it ever exist, except in the single instance of Massachusets? And can history produce an instance of a rebellion so honourably conducted? I say nothing of it’s motives. They were founded in ignorance, not wickedness. God forbid we should ever be 20. years without such a rebellion. The people can not be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. We have had 13. states independant 11. years. There has been one rebellion. That comes to one rebellion in a century and a half for each state. What country before ever existed a century and half without a rebellion? And what country can preserve it’s liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it’s natural manure. Our Convention has been too much impressed by the insurrection of Massachusets: and in the spur of the moment they are setting up a kite to keep the hen yard in order.”
 
Only Ghislaine and Jeff did anything wrong, nothing to see, the other visitors just wanted to see the beach.
This is what cleaning the swamp looks like, just sweep all the dirty stuff under the rug.
That stuff is still being used as blackmail material every day. Why do you think Israel seems to be in control of the US government? It’s not because all the powerful people like being told what to do. It is because they are scared of their child sex perv videos being on the national news.
 
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it looks like Trump is sinking himself and MAGA. i heard more weapons to Ukraine? deeper involvement in ME (for the benefit of Israel)? the tariffs remain a question mark to me anyway. int'l finance is too complicated-prob for a reason. the debt continues to grow. no action against the obviously corrupt elements. poss exceptions to deportation of some wet backs? continued stonewalling on Epstein? that gets a lg amt of attention vs some of the other stuff. for a distraction? nothing for real on JFK,RFK,MLK. hate to say it,hope to be wrong but looking like we bought another fake out.
to me all this should be obviously damaging to the admin. so,why is it let slide? should be painfully obvious as an agenda killer. unless the agenda has not changed in any real way?
This is a very long war. Chinese and Islamist initiatives are effective largely because they think in terms of decades. Trump’s actions and ethos is useful now. In a few years it will look like window dressing, but the journey needs the normalization of bald faced government lies and obviously fake narrative control. Typically Americans (who lead the western narrative) are short sighted and impatient.
 
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“I do not know whether it is to yourself or Mr. Adams I am to give my thanks for the copy of the new constitution. I beg leave through you to place them where due. It will be yet three weeks before I shall receive them from America. There are very good articles in it: and very bad. I do not know which preponderate. What we have lately read in the history of Holland, in the chapter on the Stadtholder, would have sufficed to set me against a Chief magistrate eligible for a long duration, if I had ever been disposed towards one: and what we have always read of the elections of Polish kings should have forever excluded the idea of one continuable for life. Wonderful is the effect of impudent and persevering lying. The British ministry have so long hired their gazetteers to repeat and model into every form lies about our being in anarchy, that the world has at length believed them, the English nation has believed them, the ministers themselves have come to believe them, and what is more wonderful, we have believed them ourselves. Yet where does this anarchy exist? Where did it ever exist, except in the single instance of Massachusets? And can history produce an instance of a rebellion so honourably conducted? I say nothing of it’s motives. They were founded in ignorance, not wickedness. God forbid we should ever be 20. years without such a rebellion. The people can not be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. We have had 13. states independant 11. years. There has been one rebellion. That comes to one rebellion in a century and a half for each state. What country before ever existed a century and half without a rebellion? And what country can preserve it’s liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it’s natural manure. Our Convention has been too much impressed by the insurrection of Massachusets: and in the spur of the moment they are setting up a kite to keep the hen yard in order.”
This comes from the era between Declaration of Independence, and full ratification of the eventual Constitution. The Articles of Confederation were operative. Shay's Rebellion in Massachusetts is probably what the author talks about with "the single instance of Massachusetts."

This source is not honest/reliable but it is at least a good start, if you want to try to understand that era -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confederation_period

Those with eyes open will notice that since we had an Articles of Confederation, and a Confederacy of independent states, in our history -- then, of course, the southern states in the Civil War were begging the audience to refer back to the Articles of Confederation when they called themselves "The Confederacy."

When I was in K-12, the idea of "the Confederacy" was described to us kids as racist and bigoted, because of slavery. What a bunch of mind-twisting teachers! The southern states wanted things to operate as they had under the Articles. They had a good point. But they did not have the full backing of the wealthy northerners, bankers mostly.
 
I don't know if anyone here ever has worked in juvenile care or juvenile mental health, or otherwise has good knowledge of how dangerous paedos and their enablers are to a culture. The damage done to a child is almost irreversible, it takes a lot of work to help a child get past abuse from a paedo. If you were to visit all the prisons of the country and interview the most violent offenders, I would almost guarantee that at least 85% of them were abused as kids.
 

After watching trumps impromptu Q&A earlier, I'm guessing its about to hit the fan on many fronts, so be ready for huge distractions. His tone was not him at all. Thinking his people are now telling him he has lost his base over yesterdays cluster fuck. Also looks like the fed back he is getting from his AI bots is paralleling it. Anyone else notice the uptick here in old, low post count, accounts, trying to stave off the truth, I have,...
 
Before this current Admin ends on its own natural timeline, a lot of people in this country are going to feel shocked / sandbagged / hoodwinked when they learn just how filthy people in decision positions are. Worse filth than imagined. Why do you think the "media" are so engaged in distractions right now? The guilty folks are trying to strategize their "exit" from any social frictions that may arise. Part of that exit strategy is distracting the populace with Team Red vs Team Blue nonsense, or ignorant dishonest boasts about our great economy.

On that topic of "the Confederacy" and the era of the Articles and the issue of ratifying the Constitution, people may find this guy's history interesting -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luther_Martin
 
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Here's some "get ready" advice: the people chosen to work for the current Admin were picked because they will lie about anything. If you think Pam Bondi is an impressive attorney, I have news for you, she's a fraud and an empty suit. Kash Patel has loyalty to himself and whomever pays him the fattest sums. He is by lineage of the most dishonest culture on the planet, outside the clear winner whose PM is visiting our country this week.
 
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Short recap

-Guy waltzes onto the scene of ritch and famous in the 80's
-Epstein became a billionare out of nothing ,no steady source of income, track record of some fancy deals, investments or startups , just people dolling out triple digt million sums for 'investment advice'
-Investigated multiple times all snuffed on grounds guy might be with a three-letter outfit.
-Sweetheart deal cut to keep things quiet and the project rolling .Epstein takes one for the team as immunity is for all and any potential co conspirators..
-A reportage on pedo island trafficking based on report of some victims was locked in a drawer for 8 or so years.
-Till it blows wide open with bunch of chicks filling lawsiuts. Dam is about to break and there is not enough hush money to keep them all quiet. Federales step into action.
-Epstein gets arrested Maxwell on the run Foreign supplier of 'models' gets suicided in French jail , Epstein gets suicided, some of the foreign accusers get paid of and disapear,one of the few left is first ran over then suicided.
-Thousands of videos ,over thousand Victims acording to FBI
-200+million doled out in Epstein victim fund to 220+ victims
-Cameras recording everything on pedo island , Lolita express ferried who is who of american elite to said pedo island

But nothing prosecutable to be found , not a single person charged aside from Maxwell.


Refresher on 2008 plea deal :

Negotiated by Alex Acosta, then U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of Florida.
Epstein pleaded guilty to two state-level prostitution charges, not federal sex trafficking.
He served 13 months in county jail, with daily work release privileges.
The deal included a non-prosecution agreement that:

Granted immunity to Epstein and four named accomplices.
Extended immunity to “any potential co-conspirators”, who were not identified.
Shut down an ongoing FBI investigation into other victims and participants.
Was kept secret from victims, violating the Crime Victims’ Rights Act



 
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If a curious person were to investigate the business history of Fred Trump's real estate business, left to his son the current poe-tuss, and look closely at its fiscal status during its history, one might notice quite a few moments starting in the 1980s where the business was in deep, deep trouble and needed a bailout, and one might notice this happened many more times than once, and then one might start wondering, who paid these bailouts and for what purpose?

Fred's daughter Maryanne had some interesting perspectives on her brother, which you may want to investigate.

On the interesting post directly above this one, notice the "elite" were not strictly from one nation, and from the postures of current leaders around the world, one might determine which nations' leaders and to-be-leaders liked to vacation at a certain island.
 
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After watching trumps impromptu Q&A earlier, I'm guessing its about to hit the fan on many fronts, so be ready for huge distractions. His tone was not him at all. Thinking his people are now telling him he has lost his base over yesterdays cluster fuck. Also looks like the fed back he is getting from his AI bots is paralleling it. Anyone else notice the uptick here in old, low post count, accounts, trying to stave off the truth, I have,...
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