We may finally know who’s been to the island

[Jingoist]

the "hoax" is that trump was involved (all the victims already said he wasn't).
the real story is that our own government was involved.
pretty sure they are using "continuity of government" as the excuse for hiding the truth about the fbi and cia.
could the government survive if the american public knew our own agencies were aiding and abetting the sexual exploitation of kids?
would it irreparably tarnish our reputation globally?

honestly, i don't give a fuck and i am at odds with the administration on this. tell the truth. let the chips fall...
but we know they don't think like that....

Few citizens have Apaches and M1 Abrams, so I the COOP excuse is yet another lie/excuse to shield the wealthy and powerful.

I am not buying it (and I am not buying that the CIA's manchurian candidate with a penchant for penis and drag, seeded by Peter Thiel and the CIA, is the answer, either. I know, I know...the guy who was a Never-Trumper 15 minutes ago with 35 months of political experience is the next Abraham Lincoln).

The old man either burns it all down, or the American voter will at the ballot box in a way that is 'too big to rig.' And he's made it clear the direction he wants to go as the leader of the free world—"losers" and "weak" and "I don't want your support." Okay.

PS: We were unquestionably involved, but this is undoubtedly Mossad's baby and it's long time to throw the baby out with the disgusting bathwater.

 

[Fresh2death]

Few citizens have Apaches and M1 Abrams, so I the COOP excuse is yet another lie/excuse to shield the wealthy and powerful.

I am not buying it (and I am not buying that the CIA's manchurian candidate with a penchant for penis and drag, seeded by Peter Thiel and the CIA, is the answer, either. I know, I know...the guy who was a Never-Trumper 15 minutes ago with 35 months of political experience is the next Abraham Lincoln).

The old man either burns it all down, or the American voter will at the ballot box in a way that is 'too big to rig.' And he's made it clear the direction he wants to go as the leader of the free world—"losers" and "weak" and "I don't want your support." Okay.

PS: We were unquestionably involved, but this is undoubtedly Mossad's baby and it's long time to throw the baby out with the disgusting bathwater.

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Yep. This issue goes deep and it’s amazing how intertwined these people are. For example: Israel was created largely by the Rothchilds. The Rothchilds (Wilbur Ross) bailed potus out of his financial woes in the early 90’s. Potus hired Ross as his secretary of commerce during his first term. Ross (WL Ross & Co/invesco) partnered with Jared Kushner in 2013 in a 240mil RE deal. And it goes on and on and on.

How anyone at this point can believe that he isn’t one of them is mind boggling.

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

How anyone at this point can believe that he isn’t one of them is mind boggling.

Pointed this out in 2015-2016 on here, yet everyone said I was crazy and needed to stop & take my meds. Gaming to ground what is presented as salvation, eludes many. Take heart, we can vote harder next time, laughing. This nation's only salvation, is that WW III goes wrong for guess who.

 

[Jingoist]

Yep. This issue goes deep and it’s amazing how intertwined these people are. For example: Israel was created largely by the Rothchilds. The Rothchilds (Wilbur Ross) bailed potus out of his financial woes in the early 90’s. Potus hired Ross as his secretary of commerce during his first term. Ross (WL Ross & Co/invesco) partnered with Jared Kushner in 2013 in a 240mil RE deal. And it goes on and on and on.

How anyone at this point can believe that he isn’t one of them is mind boggling.

Fun fact—Howard Lutnick, a successor of Wilbur Ross (former Secretary of Commerce under Trump I), not only held fundraisers for Hillary Clinton at his home....but the home shares a wall with, yes, you guessed it, Jeffery Epstein.

You can't make this shit up.

 

[Fresh2death]

^ that is fake and not his signature....

At this point I’m not sure how we could definitively claim it’s not his signature.

 

[Jingoist]

At this point I’m not sure how we could definitively claim it’s not his signature.

...not to mention he might have changed it up a little to fly under the radar while working covert operations.

 

[Edsel]

At this point I’m not sure how we could definitively claim it’s not his signature.

Gotta stand by your man…

 

[jr81452]

the "hoax" is that trump was involved (all the victims already said he wasn't).
the real story is that our own government was involved.
pretty sure they are using "continuity of government" as the excuse for hiding the truth about the fbi and cia.
could the government survive if the american public knew our own agencies were aiding and abetting the sexual exploitation of kids?
would it irreparably tarnish our reputation globally?

honestly, i don't give a fuck and i am at odds with the administration on this. tell the truth. let the chips fall...
but we know they don't think like that....

 

[Edsel]

 

[Edsel]

 

[Fresh2death]

US Senate Republicans narrowly reject Schumer bid to force vote on Epstein files

 

[Edsel]

 

[xxflyingturtlexx]

Guys relax.

 

[Edsel]

 

[Edsel]

 

[Haney]

 

[Edsel]

 

[Fresh2death]

The reasons why these files/issue are being ignored and swept under the rug are stacking up like cord wood.

 

[Fresh2death]

Watch: Rep. Thomas Massie questions Kash Patel about others involved in Epstein sex trafficking

 

[Jingoist]

Watch: Rep. Thomas Massie questions Kash Patel about others involved in Epstein sex trafficking

...the most disgusting thing I've seen in politics.

 

[doubloon]

Watch: Rep. Thomas Massie questions Kash Patel about others involved in Epstein sex trafficking

Is that guy retarded?

 

[plong]

Is that guy retarded?

Which one…

 

[Edsel]

Watch: Rep. Thomas Massie questions Kash Patel about others involved in Epstein sex trafficking

Jeez.

A whole lotta nothingburger…

They’re just waiting for all this to blow away, and it will, and the public will accept it.

 

[doubloon]

Which one…

It's a fair question.

Patel has his moments but in this instance I'm leaning toward Massie is more retarded in this moment.

Delegation is a thing. What kind of moron expects Patel to be personally working on every case or directly involved in every case.

Most of these congress critters have cognitive issues. They are just putting on a show for votes.

 

[Jingoist]

Yea, I sure wish Kash would stop trying to take on so much and instead delegate this (now closed, apparently) case to some staff lawyer to decide if we should prosecute the most powerful, disgusting people in the world/world leaders/monarchs. Makes sense. That's called "leadership." #Valhalla


I mean, he does have other things to do, like raid the Discord server and write BS text messages that lay out the entire m*rder plot of Charlie Kirk in dissertation form. There's only so many hours in the day one can cover for the swamp, so delegate those "hoax" cases to some GS government employees with a BA in Agriculture.

We already have informants working the streets, so delegate, bruh. We got eyes/ears on, yo.

 

[doubloon]

FWIW, I don't disagree that it's important and people should be in prison or executed over it.

But Kash isn't calling the shots here, he's just a cog and he reads the script.

But I do believe there are people on staff called agents whose job it is to do the investigative work and summarize/report it upstream. If it gets covered up after it's uncovered that's a different problem. Kash doesn't talk to the informants working the streets, he gets a report from somebody who collected reports from people who talked to the informants.

The service manager doesn't inspect the air filters, change the oil, adjust the plugs, turn the brakes, etc. when your car goes into the shop but they're the ones who tell you you need new brakes, yada yada.

 

[theLBC]

FWIW, I don't disagree that it's important and people should be in prison or executed over it.

But Kash isn't calling the shots here, he's just a cog and he reads the script.

But I do believe there are people on staff called agents whose job it is to do the investigative work and summarize/report it upstream. If it gets covered up after it's uncovered that's a different problem.

The service manager doesn't inspect the air filters, change the oil, adjust the plugs, turn the brakes, etc. when your car goes into the shop but their the ones who tell you you need new brakes, yada yada.

"they" had 4 years to destroy or hide whatever they wanted to with the "evidence".
by "they", i mean the agencies that tried to frame trump for russian collusion, and hide the truth about hunter's laptop.
unfortunately, those are the same agencies that have had access to the epstein files.

still doesn't explain what blondi claimed to have seen just months ago....

/i think everything possible should be digitized and archived by now (and impossible to delete).
//is it relevant that massie doesn't have an aipac minder?

 

[doubloon]

Si, corruption is rampant and the corrupt control the justice system.

Meh, if you want something to never be deleted put it on the internet. Otherwise paper is the best second choice.

//is it relevant that massie doesn't have an aipac minder?

You mean in the sense that he's possibly a liar or misinformed?

https://www.trackaipac.com/congress

Jon Husted​

OH-SEN [R]
Lobby Total: $0

Nick Begich​

AK-At Large [R]
Lobby Total: $5,574
RJC

Eli Crane​

AZ-02 [R]
Lobby Total: $500

Abe Hamadeh​

AZ-08 [R]
Lobby Total: $3,505

Paul Gosar​

AZ-09 [R]
Lobby Total: $30,475

A few more with no AIPAC connection listed ... admittedly I don't know what the other affiliations are.

 

[Jingoist]

"they" had 4 years to destroy or hide whatever they wanted to with the "evidence".
by "they", i mean the agencies that tried to frame trump for russian collusion, and hide the truth about hunter's laptop.
unfortunately, those are the same agencies that have had access to the epstein files.

still doesn't explain what blondi claimed to have seen just months ago....

/i think everything possible should be digitized and archived by now (and impossible to delete).
//is it relevant that massie doesn't have an aipac minder?

Lest we forget he "killed himself" while the current informant-in-chief was in office, and the "technical error" that "lost" 850K emails related to the case happened on "W's" watch. So if you were to truly call balls and strikes, ergo...we can't even get the truth on doctored prison videos and called "losers" when we don't move on and don a tiny hat or get denied disaster relief funds/federal aid/passports/and now, and you can't fucking make this shit up, citizenship.


....but people blame Amtrak Joe's administration for destroying evidence? lololol

I wonder if Joe is behind every single one of them turning on a "Day 1" dime—The Informant, Kash, Dan, and Pam. Every fucking one of them. Big talk until they are forced to kiss the wall.


Moreover, here's why Pam (and Barr before her) was chosen—who's hiding what?

 

[Jingoist]

Si, corruption is rampant and the corrupt control the justice system.

Wait, wait, wait—I thought that's the spoils of winning an election? I thought the "dream team" was elected to fix that? Let's roll the fucking tapes....or maybe that's Phase 3 after the mass deportations? I misplaced the timeline memo on when we enter this Golden Age.

Fucking rookies are struggling to get some dyke kicked off the Federal Reserve Board, arguing about all the laws she broke...and not a single fucking door kicked down, save John Boltons. Someone get Hannity to start talking about the bought and paid for dossier again!

 

[doubloon]

Fucking rookies are struggling to get some dyke kicked off the Federal Reserve Board, arguing about all the laws she broke...and not a single fucking door kicked down, save John Boltons. Someone get Hannity to start talking about the bought and paid for dossier again!

Truth.

Bread and circuses.

....but people blame Amtrak Joe's administration for destroying evidence? lololol

There is only one administration.

 

[Jingoist]

 

[Jingoist]

Where's Glenn's blackboard when America needs it?

 

[Fresh2death]

Si, corruption is rampant and the corrupt control the justice system.

Meh, if you want something to never be deleted put it on the internet. Otherwise paper is the best second choice.




You mean in the sense that he's possibly a liar or misinformed?

https://www.trackaipac.com/congress

Jon Husted​

OH-SEN [R]
Lobby Total: $0

Nick Begich​

AK-At Large [R]
Lobby Total: $5,574
RJC

Eli Crane​

AZ-02 [R]
Lobby Total: $500

Abe Hamadeh​

AZ-08 [R]
Lobby Total: $3,505

Paul Gosar​

AZ-09 [R]
Lobby Total: $30,475

A few more with no AIPAC connection listed ... admittedly I don't know what the other affiliations are.

As mentioned previously: Roughly 94% of the members in congress have received money from pro-Israel pacs. Massie is in the 6% and people like L. Graham & JD Vance are in the 94%.

 

[Lightning8]

As mentioned previously: Roughly 94% of the members in congress have received money from pro-Israel pacs. Massie is in the 6% and people like L. Graham & JD Vance are in the 94%.

Politicians should be required to wear sponsor patches on their jackets like NASCAR for all to see

 

[doubloon]

As mentioned previously: Roughly 94% of the members in congress have received money from pro-Israel pacs. Massie is in the 6% and people like L. Graham & JD Vance are in the 94%.

I believe I saw somewhere Massie once made the claim he was the only Republican without a AIPAC babysitter.

But, if I did, it was published by the "media" so there's only a 30% chance it was accurate.

 

[doubloon]

Politicians should be required to wear sponsor patches on their jackets like NASCAR for all to see

And captioned around them like a FPS dashboard every time their picture appears anywhere.

 

[Fresh2death]

I believe I saw somewhere Massie once made the claim he was the only Republican without a AIPAC babysitter.

But, if I did, it was published by the "media" so there's only a 30% chance it was accurate.

I believe Massie stated this during his last TC interview. I think it was June of 2025 when https://www.trackaipac.com/ made the claim that in all of congress 10 democrats, 1 independent and 1 Republican (Thomas Massie) had not received funds from a pro Israel PAC.

Either way, an insignificant number of congress doesn’t take money from a pro Israel pac.

 

[doubloon]

Either way, an insignificant number of congress doesn’t take money from a pro Israel pac.

Si. Not good.

I linked track AIPAC earlier.

Everybody focuses on the one acronym AIPAC and loses sight of the others. If the search is expanded to include more than just AIPAC Massie's statement is closer to the truth.

DMFI: Democratic Majority for Israel
JAC: Joint Action Committee for Political Affairs PAC
MDACC: Maryland Association for Concerned Citizens PAC
NORPAC: formerly known as North Jersey PAC
PIA: Pro-Israel America PAC
RJC: Republican Jewish Coalition
USI: U.S. Israel PAC

If you click on the "our endorsed anti-AIPAC candidates" button the list gets very short.

 

[Fig]

As mentioned previously: Roughly 94% of the members in congress have received money from pro-Israel pacs. Massie is in the 6% and people like L. Graham & JD Vance are in the 94%.

If I had any interest in running for office I'd certainly take money from pro-Israel pacs. I'm already pro Israel. I already don't see the Canaanites or the Hamas death cult as victims. As far as I'm concerned they're getting justice. Why not take the money if they want to support me? Then again, I've run FROM every office anyone has ever tried to get me to run for. I've only accepted a couple of appointments in my life, and I have to say I've at least somewhat regretted saying yes every time. I'm currently the Public Works chair in my city, because I THOUGHT we were just going to get shit done that needed doing and it wasn't going to be political. I don't fucking know what I was thinking! I have zero interest in telling other people what to do, and I don't want to be told what to do.

The supposition that if you take their money you are bought and paid for is ridiculous. More likely they are supporting the people who already agree with them, and if those people change their minds they will stop giving them money. I'm not saying you can't buy a politician and get them to vote against their own conscience (some don't have one), as there are many you can, but you are trying to argue that every Republican is bought and paid for by the Joos, which is absurd.

I just work with and I am friends with too many Jews, have too many Jews I love, and have spent too much time in Israel among it's people to agree with the internet bullshit that gets posted on these threads. Israel certainly isn't any more perfect than we are, and they definitely have to be sneaky and sharp as fuck to survive surrounded by mortal enemies who want them all dead. Given the history of the diaspora, their "otherness", and their unwillingness to fully integrate into any country in which they live, some things make sense. God promised them that they would not loose their culture and their faith even as he punished them by allowing their kingdom to be destroyed and the people scattered to the wind.

What Does the Bible Tell Us about the Diaspora of the Jews?

The word diaspora only appears three times in the New Testament. So why is it so important?

www.christianity.com

The New Testament uses that to teach Christians to be like them; living in the world, but not being of it.

I'm quite sure they've done some bad shit in the service of that, but I'm not throwing any rocks from my crystalline domicile. The Joo hatred gets very tedious, especially from the one trick ponies who are living in their algorithm and that's probably all the internet is feeding them day in and day out. Give it a rest. It's exhausting.

 

[Fresh2death]

Si. Not good.

I did some looking on those 5 people you listed above. 3 of them just started their first terms this year so it’s possible the reporting is delayed or they genuinely don’t take $$ from pro Israel PACs (although if I was a betting man I’d say Jon Husted has taken $$ from them) . Paul Gosar has historically taken donations from pro Israel PACs as has Eli Crane.

At this point I’m not even sure if pharma or the banking industry has the hold on congress that Israel does. Crazy times.

 

[doubloon]

I did some looking

All true. I only focused on AIPAC because that's what gets thrown around the most.

Also don't rule out "dark money" PACs. Even if someone doesn't have a joo PAC directly attached to them it doesn't necessarily mean they are completely untethered.

The problem about claims like Massie's is they're generalized and don't focus on behavior. Kinda like the war on drugs focused on the suppliers. Change the behavior of the consumer and the supply will dry up ... easier said than done.

 

[Fresh2death]

If I had any interest in running for office I'd certainly take money from pro-Israel pacs. I'm already pro Israel. I already don't see the Canaanites or the Hamas death cult as victims. As far as I'm concerned they're getting justice. Why not take the money if they want to support me? Then again, I've run FROM every office anyone has ever tried to get me to run for. I've only accepted a couple of appointments in my life, and I have to say I've at least somewhat regretted saying yes every time. I'm currently the Public Works chair in my city, because I THOUGHT we were just going to get shit done that needed doing and it wasn't going to be political. I don't fucking know what I was thinking! I have zero interest in telling other people what to do, and I don't want to be told what to do.

The supposition that if you take their money you are bought and paid for is ridiculous. More likely they are supporting the people who already agree with them, and if those people change their minds they will stop giving them money. I'm not saying you can't buy a politician and get them to vote against their own conscience (some don't have one), as there are many you can, but you are trying to argue that every Republican is bought and paid for by the Joos, which is absurd.

I just work with and I am friends with too many Jews, have too many Jews I love, and have spent too much time in Israel among it's people to agree with the internet bullshit that gets posted on these threads. Israel certainly isn't any more perfect than we are, and they definitely have to be sneaky and sharp as fuck to survive surrounded by mortal enemies who want them all dead. Given the history of the diaspora, their "otherness", and their unwillingness to fully integrate into any country in which they live, some things make sense. God promised them that they would not loose their culture and their faith even as he punished them by allowing their kingdom to be destroyed and the people scattered to the wind.

What Does the Bible Tell Us about the Diaspora of the Jews?

The word diaspora only appears three times in the New Testament. So why is it so important?

www.christianity.com

The New Testament uses that to teach Christians to be like them; living in the world, but not being of it.

I'm quite sure they've done some bad shit in the service of that, but I'm not throwing any rocks from my crystalline domicile. The Joo hatred gets very tedious, especially from the one trick ponies who are living in their algorithm and that's probably all the internet is feeding them day in and day out. Give it a rest. It's exhausting.

Lobbyists, Big Donors and PACS donate to politicians for favors and influence. There is no other reason.

One should never wonder why our elected officials vote to send billions of dollars over seas while we drown in debt & inflation.

 

[Jingoist]

I feel like the devil's advocate as of late, but will take the opposite position on this one, as disgusting as lobbying is and the influence it buys.

It's purely a function of the First Amendment and it, in theory, is designed to work itself out at the ballot box.

You don't like your representatives taking in millions to 'Make Israel Great Again,' then vote them out....the difficultly of doing that, given incumbency advantage, notwithstanding.

Limiting how much I—or people with exponentially deeper pockets than I—can contribute to <insert politician's name> a cause is a violation of my free speech...

 

[Fresh2death]

I feel like the devil's advocate as of late, but will take the opposite position on this one, as disgusting as lobbying is and the influence it buys.

It's purely a function of the First Amendment and it, in theory, is designed to work itself out at the ballot box.

You don't like your representatives taking in millions to 'Make Israel Great Again,' then vote them out....the difficultly of doing that, given incumbency advantage, notwithstanding.

Limiting how much I—or people with exponentially deeper pockets than I—can contribute to <insert politician's name> a cause is a violation of my free speech...

Right or wrong, essentially all issues that plague this nation can be traced back to money and it’s influence in politics.

 

[Jingoist]

Right or wrong, essentially all issues that plague this nation can be traced back to money and it’s influence in politics.

...and essentially all issues that have improved this nation can be, also. Food for thought.

 

[Fresh2death]

...and essentially all issues that have improved this nation can be, also. Food for thought.

No doubt. Curious though, what has improved in the last 50 years or so, and would you say the improvements are a net gain over the negatives?

 

[Jingoist]

No doubt. Curious though, what has improved in the last 50 years or so, and would you say the improvements are a net gain over the negatives?

Ask the NAACP. Ask big pharma, who, though producing evil, have produced live-saving treatments through government funding/support that has greatly extended life expectancy to damn near three-quarters of a century. Those 'little blue pills' don't grow on trees.

Ask those benefiting from technological infrastructure improvements that allow us to get the Bear Pit in remote destinations. Ask Elon and this asinine move toward 'green energy' cars and disgusting windmills and government-subsided Chinese panels, much of which would have never taken off without lobbying government.

None of these lobbyists think they are peddling evil. They would argue that they are serving a public good. It's up to voters to quantify that good and vote in accordance with their personal priorities.

I would argue every single facet of life is better when compared to the human condition 50 years ago, and whether I want to give my weekly offertory to the Little Sisters of the Poor or to some dingbat in Texas with fake eyelashes that 'axe' stupid questions, that's my prerogative to decide, not Uncle Sam's.

 

[Jingoist]

This is protected speech, in my world. You go, girl. #GirlBoss lol

 

[Defiantly_Not_Bender]

I just notice things.