Rifle Scopes Weaver GrandSlam MIDWAY special

[DP425]

I've never even held one of these, but based on the very good reviews it got here on the hide in terms of quality for price, I suggested it to a buddy looking for a budget minded optic... When he got it, he found he was totally unable to get the zero marks to line-up. This is after mounting and zeroing his rifle, they are still what appears to be .05 mil off (in other words, between hash marks).

Has anyone else had this problem? Found a solution? Had to return it? I will be getting a look at it this weekend when we meet up for some whitetail hunting, but I'd like to have some sort of input on this from other owners when I sit down to have a look at it. Something like this wouldn't surprise me out of a < $150 scope, but I wouldn't expect something so simple to get right on a scope that normally retails for $400.

Here's the picture he sent me:

I'm assuming this is a sort of indexed turret design rather than a slip type which is infinitely adjustable. Which would explain why he said it's impossible to get lined up.

 

[Redmanss]

Re: Weaver GrandSlam MIDWAY special

Try dropping the zero an additional .1 mil lower, then resetting the turret. It might line up better then and reduce the potential for future confusion (and quell his OCD) without dramatically effecting his settings.

 

[RFutch]

Re: Weaver GrandSlam MIDWAY special

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Redmanss</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Try dropping the zero an additional .1 mil lower, then resetting the turret. It might line up better then and reduce the potential for future confusion (and quell his OCD) without dramatically effecting his settings. </div></div>

This is what you have to do. Its just a side effect of those type of turrets. I have three scopes with this type. Some are better than others but its not a big deal to me. Just dial one more .1 mil and reset. It should line up.

 

[MitchInOR]

Re: Weaver GrandSlam MIDWAY special

Mine line up, but the lower ring that has the up/down arrows is slightly off center.

 

[DP425]

Re: Weaver GrandSlam MIDWAY special

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DFOOSKING</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Even high scopes have errors and $400 in the optics world is not alot of $$$. </div></div>

Oh I know- I have NF and USO among my optics.

 

[DP425]

Re: Weaver GrandSlam MIDWAY special

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Redmanss</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Try dropping the zero an additional .1 mil lower, then resetting the turret. It might line up better then and reduce the potential for future confusion (and quell his OCD) without dramatically effecting his settings. </div></div>

Okay I'll give this a shot when I see it this weekend. Also will let him know the other suggestions of just contacting weaver.

Thanks

 

[LoneWolfUSMC]

Re: Weaver GrandSlam MIDWAY special

As mentioned, it's a common issue with "splined" turrets. Two of the Bushnell's I have in the safe right now do that. You just have to remember if it's on the high side or low side of the mark. If you forget it's not going to kill you.

 

[Hellbender]

Re: Weaver GrandSlam MIDWAY special

I think all the Jap and Chicom (splined) scopes have this problem, the # of splines don't match up with the # of clicks.

I think it is done that way on purpose, as getting the right # of clicks to match up with the marks on the turrets would be very difficult and on many of the scopes then NONE of the marks would line up.

This way, it allows them to manufacture the turrets with no indexing (very easy), and it is only very far off one time in 3, so that immediately eliminates 2/3rds of the problems. and of the other 1/3 of the people left, only a few of them will complain.

 

[DP425]

Re: Weaver GrandSlam MIDWAY special

Yeah, exactly what lonewolf and hellbender said make perfect sense. As soon as my bushnell showed up I pulled a turret off to get a look at the set-up- splined. Mine match up as of right now, but I haven't zeroed it yet. This is my first splined turret scope- I don't necessarily have a problem with it, and as mentioned, being .1 mil off isn't going to be detrimental in the use for these optics. I know I won't mount my bushnell to a rifle I'm taking over-seas, so no big deal. And even at that it would be at the last couple hundred meters of effective range that .1 mil could make much of a difference. I'm okay with it if mine ends up like that once zeroed- it will eventually get a USO anyway. My buddy who is an engineer by trade however gets erked by that sort of thing.

Oh well.

 

[bcw1284]

Re: Weaver GrandSlam MIDWAY special

I have this scope, and my buddy has another on his .308 gas gun, both line up perfectly.

 

[Kino]

Re: Weaver GrandSlam MIDWAY special

I think that weaver is doing some things right these days, even if they dont line up they are a great buy for the money!

 

[mscott]

Re: Weaver GrandSlam MIDWAY special

I have a similar problem with the new Super Sniper 5-20. When it comes time to zero the knobs I often have to settle for .1 above or .1 below my true zero, so even more expensive scopes can have little issues. It's not a big deal, but somewhat annoying.

 

[Specter328]

Re: Weaver GrandSlam MIDWAY special

I had this issue to a lesser extent on my Bushnell 3200 and since the elevation/windage turrets are the same I swapped them which corrected the issue. I'm not sure if the Weaver has the same turrets for elevation and windage but if it does its worth a shot.

 

[memilanuk]

Re: Weaver GrandSlam MIDWAY special

I just ordered one of these scopes today to put on my 18" middy AR... if thats the only thing worth griping about, I'll consider it a good buy

 

[baddeerhunter]

Re: Weaver GrandSlam MIDWAY special

My Weaver is the same way but I haven't tried adjusting the zero by .1 mil and resetting. Im glad you brought this up and got some good responses, I will try adjusting mine to see if I get good results.

 

[DP425]

Re: Weaver GrandSlam MIDWAY special

Okay, didn't have a chance to get a really close look at it, or even try adjusting and resetting. I told my buddy about the advise given and he'll see what he can do.

Anyway, in regards to the scope itself- I would have to say, it's well worth $300. Might be closer to looking at other options for the normal price of $400... But for the sale price I don't think I'd look at anything else.

The quick look I took through the glass left me with the impression that it's about the same as my new bushnell elite tactical. Turrets are decent, the bushnell beats it in feel and audible sound. Eye box seems fairly similar. IMO, a move up to the bushnell from this gets you illumination, FFP and a bit better turrets. If I were paying full price on the bushnell instead of military pricing, having now seen them side by side I would get the weaver when on sale. I just don't see the $400-$500 premium between the weaver on sale and standard pricing on the bushnell.

That was my quick review for the couple of guys who mentioned recently ordering or buying this optic. You most likely made the best choice possible in for the money.