Well, what's next? 8.1 earthquake in Mexico, tsunami threat, and Kim wants Saturday launch

Schultz is my rep I did not and will note Vote for Her. She's as corrupt as Crooked Hillary

If Kimmy effs with Trump now I hope Trump crushes him.
 
Thats a shame about Mexico. Ive traveled a lot in those areas. Its really poor to begin with. Oaxaca is one of the nicest places Ive been. I had planned on retiring there had the Cartel's not fucked the country and made it just to dangerous.
 
At this rate we will be fighting aliens by the end of the month.

I thought we already were.

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I think we're limited to just how many characters we can use for Thread Title's, so I understand why you stopped where you did. We gotta lot of shit going down folks. Serious SHIT !! Grounder's? How bout we all just hang out over at the concession stand and enjoy a Dog n Soda and shoot the shit for a bit. I'm a tad stressed to play anymore right now. ;)​​​​​​​
 
As the saying goes... "Want to get something done, give the job to someone who is busy!!"

If we are all riveted to the TV watching Florida get a high-colonic, the nattering classes won't notice if we decapitate Kim or pass a hearing protection act or start stacking Talibans like cord wood.

We can hang out by the fence when the swamp has been drained and paved over with a nice, 20-lane shooting range with lots of steel and electronic target spotting gadgets. And when Kim is taking a dirt nap. And when swamp-creatures are in jail. Untiil then... bring the Chaos!

And while I do want the best for the folks in Irma's path, I hope it also reminds folks that proper preparation prevents piss poor performance... or in this case, their sh** getting washed into Lake Okachobee. Or however you spell that. Isn't that a casino? But for Florida, it has been a generation since the last mega-hurricane. And the generation who now has their houses and cars and boats down there... in many cases doesn't even know how to pound a nail through plywood without calling up their Prius owner help-line. Or waving an EBT card around. Maybe a lot of people who thought that 'mommy (or nanny state) would take care of wiping their asses' 24 x 7 are going to wake up and say to themselves... "Maybe I am responsible for me and mine after all..." I better learn something from this.

In chaos there is potential.

Cheers,

Sirhr
 
I think we're limited to just how many characters we can use for Thread Title's, so I understand why you stopped where you did. We gotta lot of shit going down folks. Serious SHIT !! Grounder's? How bout we all just hang out over at the concession stand and enjoy a Dog n Soda and shoot the shit for a bit. I'm a tad stressed to play anymore right now. ;)​​​​​​​

Yeah, you're about right. I could have packed a lot more in with a shorthand approach.

We had:

"Well, what's next? 8.1 earthquake in Mexico, tsunami threat, and Kim wants Saturday launch'"

It could have been:

"MexiQuake, Big Huevo? Nork D-day 9/10? No Time 4 Lerner Slime? What now, Lynch Cow?"

Two extra items on our plate were worry enough, let alone squeezing in four, you know?
 
Yeah, you're about right. I could have packed a lot more in with a shorthand approach.

We had:

"Well, what's next? 8.1 earthquake in Mexico, tsunami threat, and Kim wants Saturday launch'"

It could have been:

"MexiQuake, Big Huevo? Nork D-day 9/10? No Time 4 Lerner Slime? What now, Lynch Cow?"

Two extra items on our plate were worry enough, let alone squeezing in four, you know?



LMFAO some more. Nice play buddy. ;)
 
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The Last Judgment, by Hieronymus Bosch

It was either the above painting or the pic just posted by Maser in the What Are You Drinking Now thread. Bosch is far less horrifying.

I feel like the MMM has pegged every single day since the election as the final day just prior to the day of final judgment, the future as nothing but a long shadow that spells the finality of the American dream. The editors of WaPo and the bloggers that make up the HuffPost have not stopped fretting to rival John of Patmos (purported writer of the Book of Revelation): calamity with a side of toast has become our breakfast, and utter catastrophe our bedtime story. Some have even blamed hurricane Harvey on the fact that Texas went the way of Trump. Now that is a page torn from the Old Testament. I think there is an actual market in human grief and reading all this shit has me wondering how I might buy a few shares in it.

So after thinking on it, the below image is indeed worth a thousand NYT editorials on the current state of affairs. Watching Anderson Cooper yak about absolutely nothing makes me feel less sick. No headline I have seen recently can top it for shock, and I should promote it as a prize winning photograph of disaster, besting any image of the death of children, it elicits cries of anguish, and is more bleak that any blood soaked desert. Its superimposition of shit upon shit is both disgusting and sublime. I have not seen a more ominous forecast for the future.

Veer, you wanted to know what's next? This. This is what is next. I would think this is what would have the children of DACA fleeing for the Guatemalan highlands.
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Revelation at least gives hope that righteousness will prevail and order will be restored. Not so much for the bottle of alcoholic koolaid and the trashed room.
 
I have been preparing for something all my life an never knew what it was. These last 5-7 days have brought clarity to my life as to why I am still walking this rock. I fine myself closer to someone not of this earth than any other time in my life.
 
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The Last Judgment, by Hieronymus Bosch

It was either the above painting or the pic just posted by Maser in the What Are You Drinking Now thread. Bosch is far less horrifying.

I feel like the MMM has pegged every single day since the election as the final day just prior to the day of final judgment, the future as nothing but a long shadow that spells the finality of the American dream. The editors of WaPo and the bloggers that make up the HuffPost have not stopped fretting to rival John of Patmos (purported writer of the Book of Revelation): calamity with a side of toast has become our breakfast, and utter catastrophe our bedtime story. Some have even blamed hurricane Harvey on the fact that Texas went the way of Trump. Now that is a page torn from the Old Testament. I think there is an actual market in human grief and reading all this shit has me wondering how I might buy a few shares in it.

So after thinking on it, the below image is indeed worth a thousand NYT editorials on the current state of affairs. Watching Anderson Cooper yak about absolutely nothing makes me feel less sick. No headline I have seen recently can top it for shock, and I should promote it as a prize winning photograph of disaster, besting any image of the death of children, it elicits cries of anguish, and is more bleak that any blood soaked desert. Its superimposition of shit upon shit is both disgusting and sublime. I have not seen a more ominous forecast for the future.

Veer, you wanted to know what's next? This. This is what is next. I would think this is what would have the children of DACA fleeing for the Guatemalan highlands. [IMG2=JSON]{"data-align":"none","data-size":"full","height":"474","width":"355","src":"https:\/\/i.imgur.com\/dTfelLu.jpg"}[/IMG2]

"Marsellus," thank you for that.

Since some have chosen this path already in the discussion, I'll add this: luckily, for some, Elijah hasn't arrived ... just yet. I agree with my colleague MTT's observation about the state of degradation evinced in the photograph of the trailer electrical fire waiting to happen. What shouldn't be has become more and more the status quo. We witness the establishment of A Nation of Masers. Nearly everything, or at least ninety-seven percent of it is becoming quite ... anomalous.

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And for those of you, the charitably ecumenical, I'll add this for judicious comparison, and then leave off:


The Dark Age of Kali Yuga is the knife, and the kings are butchers; righteousness has sprouted wings and flown away.

In this dark night of falsehood, the moon of truth is not visible anywhere.

I have searched in vain, and I am so confused.

In this darkness, I cannot find the path.

In egotism, they cry out in pain.

Says Nanak, how will they be saved?

Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, ang 145
 
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I'm not into apocalypses, and consider my God to be a benign overseer who lets us all get into and out of our own messes without any tyrannically oppressive intervention. That's probably better in the long run than more dominant activities on the divine part.

I still fear the times, but for more human reasons.

If Man were not present, A) We wouldn't care because there wouldn't be any 'We', and B) any problems otherwise are 'Human' problems (by definition), for humans to cause, for humans to suffer, for humans to botch, for humans to resolve, however effectively. Personally, divine intervention would be against my own self-determinant preferences. But then, who am I to dictate God's actions? (partial answer, probably one of His must loyal customers).

I think that the thing I'll be seeing most of is conservative backlash, on an individual basis. Folks I know are about at the end of their patience with government, for broadly conflicting reasons of too many origins to list. Folks depend on the government to do things that honestly, I'd rather government kept its nose completely out of. I think that since the days of Roosevelt (the first one), government has been way too big for its britches, and that we the people have been the most guilty for our demanding it.

I think the poo is about to get flung nonstop, and that the times we live in are a damning indictment of democracy as a failed experiment.

For the first time in several years, I can't decide whether or not I want to around to see how it all turns out. For now, I'm gonna keep up the Cardiopulmonary rehab, just in case; but I'm also keeping my powder dry. too.

Greg
 
Veer; I'm just been doing some reading on Wiki about the history of the British East India Company Wars.

Very interesting stuff, and way too superficial. The main takeaways are about how damned much history has transpired in India, and how little of it (none, really) appeared in my education.

IMHO, in the next century we'll all be catching up on that stuff, about all of the Asia and India region, and living with some of the more ultimate consequences. Power is shifting, and not in our current direction.

Any administration that isn't firmly aligned with India is going to be looking up from flat on its back, and may do so anyway. Recent, very faint news from the Trump camp mildly persuades me that this administration has given that some thought, and I see this as a positive thing.

But then 'Sikh' isn't exactly interchangeable with 'India' either, is it?

Greg
 
...And about them there hurricanes....

Are we totally certain that weather control as a weapon of war is completely out of the question? I see that is a far bigger threat than nuclear proliferation.

Greg
 
...And why do you think I now live in the Arizona High Desert instead of working every day Lower Manhattan?

I got the blow-by-blow over the phone about the towers going down from my Brother, as he was watching from about 5 miles East of ground zero.

I used to bring my Daughter into the city for lunch atop the North tower every Friday. Former coworkers and friends rode those towers down for the count.

Never, never, never, ever, ever, ever doubt my own personal abject hatred for terrorists. No, I don't like to hate, but I do know how to do it...

And on the subject, After watch/listening to the link of The World Turned Upside Down, I also clicked on the Billy Bragg video of something called similarly. It awakened something ancient in me, my Irish side, as I was raised since before I could speak. It's all way too communist for me, but as a dissertation upon the Sassenach, as learned at me Mayo born Grammum's Knee, it awoke long forgotten emotions. It evokes a time of barons and serfs, and my family's maternal lineage comes from the latter.

Greg
 
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We can't even predict the weather, much less control it. We're all just along for the ride the big blue marble gives us.

I wish it was as simple as all that, but...

The salinity of the Atlantic Conveyor current is highly sensitive to salinity modification. Some have even suggested that the contents of an ore freighter or two's worth of pure salt diffused into the Gulf Stream could bring an Ice Age to the Atlantic Coast and inland regions.

Effects on weather


Hansen et al. 2015 found, that the shutdown or substantial slowdown of the AMOC, besides possibly contributing to extreme end-Eemian events, will cause a more general increase of severe weather. Additional surface cooling from ice melt increases surface and lower tropospheric temperature gradients, and causes in model simulations a large increase of mid-latitude eddy energy throughout the midlatitude troposphere. This in turn leads to an increase of baroclinicity produced by stronger temperature gradients, which provides energy for more severe weather events.

Many of the most memorable and devastating storms in eastern North America and western Europe, popularly known as superstorms, have been winter cyclonic storms, though sometimes occurring in late fall or early spring, that generate near-hurricane-force winds and often large amounts of snowfall. Continued warming of low latitude oceans in coming decades will provide more water vapor to strengthen such storms. If this tropical warming is combined with a cooler North Atlantic Ocean from AMOC slowdown and an increase in midlatitude eddy energy, we can anticipate more severe baroclinic storms. [h=2]Observations[/h] [h=3]2010 and earlier[/h]
In April 2004, the hypothesis that the Gulf Stream is switching off received a boost when a retrospective analysis of U.S. satellite data seemed to show a slowing of the North Atlantic Gyre, the northern swirl of the Gulf Stream.[SUP][15][/SUP]

In May 2005, Peter Wadhams reported in The Times (London) about the results of investigations in a submarine under the Arctic ice sheet measuring the giant chimneys of cold dense water, in which the cold dense water normally sinks down to the sea bed and is replaced by warm water, forming one of the engines of the North Atlantic Drift. He and his team found the chimneys to have virtually disappeared. Normally there are seven to twelve giant columns, but Wadhams found only two giant columns, both extremely weak.[SUP][16][/SUP][SUP][17][/SUP]

In 2005 a 30% reduction in the warm currents that carry water north from the Gulf Stream was observed, from the last such measurement in 1992. The authors noted uncertainties in the measurements.[SUP][18][/SUP] Following media discussions, Detlef Quadfasel pointed out that the uncertainty of the estimates of Bryden et al. is high, but says other factors and observations do support their results, and implications based on palaeoclimate records show drops of air temperature up to 10 °C within decades, linked to abrupt switches of ocean circulation when a certain threshold is reached. He concluded that further observations and modelling are crucial for providing early warning of a possible devastating breakdown of the circulation.[SUP][19][/SUP] In response Quirin Schiermeier concluded that natural variation were the culprit for the observations but highlighted possible implications.[SUP][13][/SUP][SUP][20][/SUP]

In 2008, Vage et al. reported "the return of deep convection to the subpolar gyre in both the Labrador and Irminger seas in the winter of 2007–2008," employing "profiling float data from the Argo program to document deep mixing," and "a variety of in situ, satellite and reanalysis data" to set the context for the phenomenon. This might have a lot to do with the observations of variations in cold water chimney behaviour.[SUP][21][/SUP]

In January 2010, the Gulf Stream briefly connected with the West Greenland Current after fluctuating for a few weeks due to an extreme negative phase of the Arctic oscillation, temporarily diverting it west of Greenland.[SUP][22][/SUP][SUP][23][/SUP]


Their results at least imply that strong cooling in the North Atlantic from AMOC shutdown does create higher wind speed. The increment in seasonal mean wind speed of the northeasterlies relative to preindustrial conditions is as much as 10–20 %. Such a percentage increase of wind speed in a storm translates into an increase of storm power dissipation by a factor ∼1.4–2, because wind power dissipation is proportional to the cube of wind speed. However, the simulated changes refer to seasonal mean winds averaged over large grid-boxes, not individual storms.[SUP][14][/SUP]

I wonder what it might take to achieve something not quite so significant, something maybe a bit more like Harvey and, well, what's going on in Florida today...

If it's occurred to someone as insignificant as me...

Greg
 
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Veer; I'm just been doing some reading on Wiki about the history of the British East India Company Wars.

Very interesting stuff, and way too superficial. The main takeaways are about how damned much history has transpired in India, and how little of it (none, really) appeared in my education.

IMHO, in the next century we'll all be catching up on that stuff, about all of the Asia and India region, and living with some of the more ultimate consequences. Power is shifting, and not in our current direction.

Any administration that isn't firmly aligned with India is going to be looking up from flat on its back, and may do so anyway. Recent, very faint news from the Trump camp mildly persuades me that this administration has given that some thought, and I see this as a positive thing.

But then 'Sikh' isn't exactly interchangeable with 'India' either, is it?

Greg

Interesting topic as I just spent much of today in the Royal Maritime Museum in Greenwich where they have half a floor dedicated to the rapine that was the British East India Company.

I'm going to have to read a book (I expect a long one) on their history. Because, like The Hudson's Bay Company and some of the other Royal charter organizations of the Empire period.... they were simply an amazing example of capitalism run amok. The Parliament could wash their hands of things.... and the East India Company delivered the wealth of the planet to Westminster.

So much history over here.

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BTW, Noon GMT.... standing on the Meridian Line at.... Greenwich. Overlooking the Royal Maritime Museum and Queens Residence...

Motorcycle trip starts tomorrow... I'll post some interesting pix from the trip to John O'Groats!.

Cheers,

Sirhr
 
"Marsellus," thank you for that.

Since some have chosen this path already in the discussion, I'll add this: luckily, for some, Elijah hasn't arrived ... just yet. I agree with my colleague MTT's observation about the state of degradation evinced in the photograph of the trailer electrical fire waiting to happen. What shouldn't be has become more and more the status quo. We witness the establishment of A Nation of Masers. Nearly everything, or at least ninety-seven percent of it is becoming quite ... anomalous.

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And for those of you, the charitably ecumenical, I'll add this for judicious comparison, and then leave off:


The Dark Age of Kali Yuga is the knife, and the kings are butchers; righteousness has sprouted wings and flown away.

In this dark night of falsehood, the moon of truth is not visible anywhere.

I have searched in vain, and I am so confused.

In this darkness, I cannot find the path.

In egotism, they cry out in pain.

Says Nanak, how will they be saved?

Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, ang 145

And I'm afraid this Pigsty is only the tip of the 'Iceberg'? Yes, indeed it is.
 
Greg, you're a really smart man so I'm just going to give you a few things to consider and let you draw your own conclusions. The Atlantic Ocean alone holds over 75 million cubic miles of water, and a cubic mile is over a trillion gallons for reference. Diffusion and dilution, and the amount of salts necessary to actually cause a significant shift in ocean salinity over an area large enough to affect currents and weather patterns. Natural exposure to salts and their effects (or lack thereof). And your link references the continued shrinkage of the polar ice caps and the resulting hundreds of trillions of gallons of freshwater introduced into the oceans and its respective effects on ocean currents, nobody is pulling that off other than "Mother Nature" herself.

As awesome (and scary) as it would be to be able to control the weather, I'm certain it's still very much sci-fi only.
 
And your link references the continued shrinkage of the polar ice caps and the resulting hundreds of trillions of gallons of freshwater introduced into the oceans and its respective effects on ocean currents, nobody is pulling that off other than "Mother Nature" herself.

As awesome (and scary) as it would be to be able to control the weather, I'm certain it's still very much sci-fi only.

That there Max Zorin can do anything! I seed it at the picture show in town!

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Gunfighter - yes.

For those who think this is the end of times, this is mild and just the beginning Im afraid. The good news is when its over freedom will not be anyones to take. Ever.

Sirhr, nice watch in that pic. I need something material to lust after besides pre-64s, old 1911s, and revolvers, so tell me about it please.

P
 
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