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Rifle Scopes What anti-cant level is the best?

jeepwilson

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I am in the process of getting a level for my 6.5 and was wondering about which one.The ones that attach to your base or scope?I kind of like the ones that attach to your base because it seems if you shoot with both eyes open it would be in front of your left eye for a right hand shooter.But are they as good as one that attaches to the actual tube of the scope.Thanks for any input.
 
#4
Re: What anti-cant level is the best?

If you have the swag available, the USO scope level looks to be the way to go. I have USO's rail mounted version on my 700 with a SS 3-9. It wouldn't work on the TRG with the PH 5-25 though, I couldn't position it so it could be comfortably seen.

Ended up using a Holland for the PH.

Here's a pic of it:

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#6
Re: What anti-cant level is the best?

The USO's don't mount in view of you line of sight, they mount on the picatinny rail which puts it slightly lower. It's nice being able to see it right in front you too, I've seen plenty of people have to break their cheek weld to look at their scope mounted level and when they put their cheek down they cant the rifle again. The USO level's seem to work the best, and depending on the rifle and where your rings are placed you can always mount it on the right side and still have it in your view without breaking your cheek weld. I've never had any issue with the level being in the way of my sight on any of my rifles when mounted to the left. I would suggest getting the folder though, the fixed one dig's into your back and is pretty uncomfortable when carrying with the sling.
 
#7
Re: What anti-cant level is the best?

keep into consideration that i'm pretty new to this so for what it's worth.

I got the USO swivel rail mount but ended up liking the offset tube mount from sinclair.

The USO will be in the classifieds as soon as i find the cap that screws over the level.
 
#8
Re: What anti-cant level is the best?

I have a USO Swivel level on both of my rifles. It's nice to be able to get them outta the way and neither has let me down. I like the bright green liquid also, its easily seen in low light.
 
#9
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The USO levels aren't all they're cracked up to be. The swivel type develop play in the swivel that prevents them from flipping out and giving a level reading relative to the platform they're mounted on. The clamp it uses doesn't use a cross bolt the way the pic rails are designed and the clamp tension can throw off the level too.

Bought one, will not buy another. If you buy a level buy one that doesn't swivel, and if possible, one that's offset so you can see it without breaking your cheek weld. Bought one of the vortex scope mounted levels and its nice, though probably built with more material than needed.
 
#12
Re: What anti-cant level is the best?

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1184521

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=959793

https://snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2266158&page=1

google search in my signature + aci, anti cant device, or bubble level = multitude of input.

+ rail mounted

ring mount or rail mount, make sure the rifle is leveled. then make sure your scope is leveled using the crosshairs lined up with a plumb line either horizontally or vertically. then "calibrate" the device to the "levelness" of your rig.
 
#13
Re: What anti-cant level is the best?

I use the rail mount USO, I use the fixed one less moving parts. Dont really understand the ring mount ones with the level on top, you have to move your head to see if your level then settle back down into position...stupid. With the rail mount ones you just open your left eye to see the level if your a right shooter,,,,easy.
 
#14
Re: What anti-cant level is the best?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LawnMM</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The USO levels aren't all they're cracked up to be. The swivel type develop play in the swivel that prevents them from flipping out and giving a level reading relative to the platform they're mounted on. The clamp it uses doesn't use a cross bolt the way the pic rails are designed and the clamp tension can throw off the level too.
</div></div>

I've been using the same USO swivel level for about 3-4 years now and in that time it's been on 5 or 6 rifles with probably close to 10K rounds fired. It hasn't developed any play and is still nice and tight. Not sure what your reffering to as far as it "flipping out", they're not spring loaded or anything you have to push it out manually.

Not having a cross bolt is a nice feature, on my AI it's on now for example, if it had a cross bolt I wouldn't be able to mount it since I don't have a slot available with my AI scope mount. It doesn't need a cross bolt, it's holding a lightweight piece of alluminum to the rail, not the weight of a 2LBS scope under recoil. I put a little dap of blue loc tite on and tighten it to 65 in.lbs and you have to really want to get that sucker off, even after you back the screw out you have to pop the claw off with a small screwdriver.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: redneckbmxer24</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've been using the same USO swivel level for about 3-4 years now and in that time it's been on 5 or 6 rifles with probably close to 10K rounds fired. It hasn't developed any play and is still nice and tight. Not sure what your reffering to as far as it "flipping out", they're not spring loaded or anything you have to push it out manually.</div></div>

I'm glad you have one that works well for you. I had one that was mounted on one rifle and gave a bad reading for what was 'level'. It has to do with the clamp, on some rails it doesn't stay flush as you torque it and I can only assume it introduces some cant to the level mechanism, which reads level on a flat surface, but not on a rifle rail.

I've since read on here about a guy that had one he returned for not giving a true level reading and the reply via email he got was that there was play in the swivel/flip/swing whatever you want to call the non spring loaded mechanism and that was preventing it from giving a correct 'level' reading.

Again, I'm glad yours works. Mine doesn't, and its got nowhere near the use yours does at a premium price paid for it. I don't like paying premium prices for stuff that doesn't work correctly, consistently. I'm not the only one to have an issue with it so its not really a red herring some would make it out to be.

So, in my opinion, get an offset level that doesn't swing or swivel...and I would steer clear of the USO because of the clamp. If it works for you, that's great, you got a good return on your investment. I didn't. I'm glad you mentioned having to pry the claw off with a screwdriver. I've experienced that as well, and its another pitfall of not having a cross bolt. I'm pretty sure a screwdriver used to pry it off, or a nylon punch and hammer, aren't conducive to maintaining a consistent level reading.
 
#17
Re: What anti-cant level is the best?

I personally never use a level for me it just another thing for me to consider while shooting. I just make sure the cross hairs are level within the horizon. But if I was to use a level I would like to have it internally and I believe USO is starting to add that as an option. At least I have seen a couple of scopes here on the hide that had an internal level and no it wasn't a konus.
 
#21
Re: What anti-cant level is the best?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The USO levels aren't all they're cracked up to be. The swivel type develop play in the swivel that prevents them from flipping out and giving a level reading relative to the platform they're mounted on</div></div>.

That's the same problem I had with mine when purchased new from Optics Planet. I returned it no questions asked and they sent return label for me to use.

I now use Holland and am quite happy with same.


<span style="font-weight: bold">Edited:</span> Below is the exact problem I had with level and what I told the vendor.

"As I stated the product is defective because when it is swiveled 45 degrees to the position it need to be for use the bubble capsule swivels has to much freeplay to allow the bubble to consistently indicate a level position."





 
#22
Re: What anti-cant level is the best?

I like the USO fixed for rail mounts, but I'm really liking my USO SN3 with their new level built into the scope.

I have a swivel too, but I prefer not tucking it in and out.
 
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