What are your favorite barrels

20 cal: Mullerworks
22RF: Muller, Shilen
224: Muller, Bartlein, Shilen
6mm: Bartlein, Krieger, Brux, Muller, Hawk Hill
6.5mm: Muller, Brux, Bartlein, Krieger, old Rock Creek
7mm: old Broughton, Brux, Bartlein, Krieger
30: Bartlein, old Rock Creek, Brux
338: Bartlein, old Rock Creek
I know this got glossed over, but this dude has probably chambered more barrels from more manufactures than just about anyone out there, while also being one of if not biggest rifle barrel sellers out there. He is also one of the few smiths I would trust to make a barrel for me, as I have never heard a bad thing about bugholes/ SPR in over a decade. If this is what Greg thinks, its probably not far from the truth.
 
I know this got glossed over, but this dude has probably chambered more barrels from more manufactures than just about anyone out there, while also being one of if not biggest rifle barrel sellers out there. He is also one of the few smiths I would trust to make a barrel for me, as I have never heard a bad thing about bugholes/ SPR in over a decade. If this is what Greg thinks, its probably not far from the truth.
It may be a rare time where we agree, but this is so very true. I have 2 barrels in the works with them right now.
 
My last two are Proof, holy cow! They are accurate and clean easily. Good service with Shilen, Benchmark, Douglas. Was surprised on the ATX, although super accurate, shocked at the copper it collects.
 
I’m a big fan of CRB barrel so far. Have 1 right now in 6Dasher with about 1500 rounds through it. So far velocity is holding up very consistently. Also the Comp Contour is aesthetically pleasing. 1.1” at the muzzle compared to a .9” m24 barrel is surprisingly visually noticeable.
 
This button Douglas Chromoly in 6.5 creed on this Rem 700 is SUPER consistent. It's almost as if I CANT make it shoot bad. Cleans super easy and the load workup was the easiest I had ever done. Currently working on this K&P. I feel it's going to shoot as well. Well see what the load workup does.
 
The rising cost of blanks is a lil ridiculous too. $425ish is Bartlein or Krieger before the last round of price increases.
That's true, but look for free shipping from some venders...if they have the correct rifling, contour, length, etc. Bruno's has such deals.
I usually get what I want from Bugholes or SPR, no waiting on Bartlein, their usually in stock.
Also have used other vendors as of late, on fast rifling twist needed for 2 particular jobs...but ya wait months, for the blank.
But it's only the cost of the barrel blank, to get a new rifle or same caliber going again...if you own the reamers and do your own gunsmithing, it's only $425 plus shipping for a new rifle, or caliber to try.
 
That's true, but look for free shipping from some venders...if they have the correct rifling, contour, length, etc. Bruno's has such deals.
I usually get what I want from Bugholes or SPR, no waiting on Bartlein, their usually in stock.
Also have used other vendors as of late, on fast rifling twist needed for 2 particular jobs...but ya wait months, for the blank.
But it's only the cost of the barrel blank, to get a new rifle or same caliber going again...if you own the reamers and do your own gunsmithing, it's only $425 plus shipping for a new rifle, or caliber to try.
With respect--There is no such thig as free shipping, you are paying for it somewhere
Later,
 
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I see and chambered more Bartlein Krieger and Brux barrels in my shop that all the others combined most of my clientele are benchrest shooters but it holds true for my prs guys as well
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I'm surprised I haven't seen more people recommend mullerworks. all the benchrest guys who I see winning are currently using mullerworks. that said, brux, barty, krieg, ace, HH, all good.
what determines who gets my business is usually which of those first 4 I listed have the shortest wait times(mullerworks 1 month for custom work currently)
 
Does Faxon make a good barrel? I bought a 24" heavy fluted match barrel from them for my 6.5CM Aero M5. Seems to shoot ok. Its new and I have wondered if money was better spent elsewhere.
depends what you mean good. I wouldn't consider them anywhere near the brux/bart/krieg/Muller level certainly.
I've had a few cheapo barrels that shot respectably gud, there are ways and luck involved.
 
With the lesser companies I find that their good shooting barrels are fleeting; here and there, whereas the higher end barrels offer a better chance at success. I've accurized a buddies ar308 with a ballistic advantage barrel and it shot in the .3 area with handloads, but that was one. Most of em dont shoot like that. It can be hit or miss with the mass produced button barrels you see all over places like primary arms and whatnot.
 
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I’ve had great luck with every after market barrel I have had. There have been a couple of stand outs though as far as simple load development and ease of cleaning. Honestly as far as barrels have come, I think the individual cutting the chamber is more important than brand of barrel.
With barrels, I'd expect that everyone is using pretty high precision CNC machines. Most good CNC's are down to 0.001" or so of accuracy. With barrel mfgs making the same barrels the same way, is one paying a huge premium for reputation vs steel quality? How would a person objectively qualify a good barrel from a great barrel?
 
With barrels, I'd expect that everyone is using pretty high precision CNC machines. Most good CNC's are down to 0.001" or so of accuracy. With barrel mfgs making the same barrels the same way, is one paying a huge premium for reputation vs steel quality? How would a person objectively qualify a good barrel from a great barrel?
Like porn. It’s difficult to describe but you’ll know it when you see it.
 
Even with porn, you might like midgets but me not so much. Still, it's porn but not having the desired affect.
I think that was the point the guy (Reverend Falwell? Some anti-smut senator? Paging some ancient evangelical to tell us who was leading the anti-porn crusade circa 1972) was making when he said that.. probably nearly 60 years ago now. Long before my time. The point being, a “good”barrel should probably need essentially no break in, shoot better than average with most/any bullet, resist fouling, clean easily, not require much if any “foulers” after a cleaning, etc.. A great barrel does all those things and hammers in a way that is nearly magical. It can’t help itself but stack bullets. Hard to quantify and subjective but you’ll know when you have one.


ETA: holy shit I was way off. It was a SC justice in the early 60s.
 
With barrels, I'd expect that everyone is using pretty high precision CNC machines. Most good CNC's are down to 0.001" or so of accuracy. With barrel mfgs making the same barrels the same way, is one paying a huge premium for reputation vs steel quality? How would a person objectively qualify a good barrel from a great barrel?
No 2 barrels are the same! Each has its own peculiarities. That said in general practice Cut Rifle barrels are more likely to be hammers and have less stress. You buy reputation and thee get a great smith to chamber and thread it. Again you buy reputation and are more likely to get a great shooting barrel. Just because some nitwit has a cnc machine does not mean anything. There are great smiths using ancient lathes and turning out spectacular barrels. It is all about the skill of the person running the tool!
 
I’ve had great luck with every after market barrel I have had. There have been a couple of stand outs though as far as simple load development and ease of cleaning. Honestly as far as barrels have come, I think the individual cutting the chamber is more important than brand of barrel.
This is pretty much the current struggle. It's the man and reamer doing the chamber. (providing all the barrels are of the same or close quality; the chamber isnt the only difference between say a faxon and a bartlein)
 
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With barrels, I'd expect that everyone is using pretty high precision CNC machines. Most good CNC's are down to 0.001" or so of accuracy. With barrel mfgs making the same barrels the same way, is one paying a huge premium for reputation vs steel quality? How would a person objectively qualify a good barrel from a great barrel?
This is pretty ignorant, especially when barrel makers have to control down to .0001 or less. They also are not making barrels the same way. You should go educate yourself on the subject before speaking about it and sounding foolish.
 
Fuck, your government teacher in high school really failed you. Threshold test for “obscenity”.
Turns out a deep dive on the history of 1A cases centering around obscenity was pretty low on the list of potential curricula in a small, rural high school in a community of conservatives. They couldn’t even teach real science because the hillbillies couldn’t distinguish between adaptation and natural selection and evolution. To use another quote from before I was born, when I think back on all the crap I learned in high school, it’s a wonder I can think at all.
 
Deep dive? lol. Guess you didn’t get the landmark USSC cases either? Plessy v Ferguson, Brown v Board, Marbury v Madison, Roe v Wade and so forth…
Given what I’ve already said about the local cultural climate, you think there was a lot of air given to racial segregation or abortion?

Yes, deep dive. You’re fooling yourself if you think Jacobellis v Ohio is being taught in anything except some specialty constitutional law class at any high school anywhere.