What is that C ring and pin things that come with the Hornady 300 prc seating die?

[Samuel Whittemore]

Can someon please tell me....

The literature does not do a good job of explaining this.. but what are these things?

Never had them in my RCBS dies.

 

[6.5SH]

The C-clip is a spare retainer for the sliding sleeve in the seater. The others are spare de-capping pins, usually they come with the full die set.

 

[Samuel Whittemore]

The C-clip is a spare retainer for the sliding sleeve in the seater. The others are spare de-capping pins, usually they come with the full die set.

Thanks.. but, looking at their photo... why is that pin then stuck into the seating die and NOT the decapping die??

 

[morganlamprecht]

That’s isn’t that pin, it’s a cut away view of the seater bushing that the brass neck goes into...just looks similar

 

[Samuel Whittemore]

ha, cripes.. I'm a dumb ass.

Ok.. While I'm at it.. I discovered this too.. and since I have 250 gr A-tips in addition to the 225 ELD's might as well throw this out there...

Now I find the die has to have a special adapter so as not to damage A-tips.?

https://www.hornady.com/shop/accessories/a-tip-seating-stems/

 

[Supersubes]

It’s not an adapter, just a different seater stem to accommodate the long nose of the a-tip. If you have a gunsmith nearby, just have them bore one of your two existing seater stems to accommodate. If you haven’t found the other seater stem, it’s in the bottom of the die box under a small block of foam(not the lid foam).

 

[Samuel Whittemore]

Guess maybe they stopped including the extra seater stem bc the only thing in my plastic box was the directions with the c ring and pins, seating and decapping die and a piece of lid foam. No extra seater stem. But this is what I need?

Natchez

www.natchezss.com

 

[6.5SH]

Pull the seater stem and see if your A-tips contact the ogive or not. If is hitting the tip then you'll need the different stem.

In the past Hornady had standard and "VLD" stems which were unmarked. In the past few years they have offered several different shape stems with the part number stamped on them tailored to their different projectile offerings.

 

[Samuel Whittemore]

Thanks. I do not how to do that. I will call my friend.. or Hornady directly. Thanks guys. Sorry I'm such a newb

 

[Jordanwickham]

Man I really feel like Hornady still sends the two main stems (standard and VLD) been a few months since I got a Hornady seating die but I don't think I had to order the second stem. Redding 100% only sends a standard with a $100+ comp seating die.

 

[6.5SH]

Simply unscrew the micrometer top off the die, the seating stem will then drop out from the top.

Edit:
The medium sized knurled section is what you want to unscrew from the body.

 

[Jordanwickham]

Hornady Custom Grade New Dimension Die Seater Stem 30 Cal 230 250

The Hornady Custom Grade New Dimension Die Seater Stem is the perfect addition for the reloader utilizing specialty Hornady bullets like the popular FTX...

www.midwayusa.com

That's what you are looking for. You can also just Google Hornady and that part number and check out your options. Amazon will most likely have it I would imagine

 

[Jordanwickham]

You'll want to take the die apart regardless to get all the shipping grease out of it.
Take it out of your press if installed
Unscrew the micrometer ( if installed, typically another purchase unless you bought the match set) otherwise just unscrew the top knurled cap
Tip the die upside down and everything should slide out.
May need a real easy tap if the shipping oils have it bound a little.
Take a paper towel and wipe all internal parts, all surfaces, down

Hope this helps

 

[Jordanwickham]

You can then just take the removed stem and press it to the bullet on the tip / ogive area and if it wobbles you need the other stem

 

[Samuel Whittemore]

... you people really are THE BEST.
Thank you.

 

[Samuel Whittemore]

Man I really feel like Hornady still sends the two main stems (standard and VLD) been a few months since I got a Hornady seating die but I don't think I had to order the second stem. Redding 100% only sends a standard with a $100+ comp seating die.

You might be right... my friend told me not to get the match grade die set... I forget the reason he gave. But now looking at this one ... I see the stem you must be referring too.

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1018253567?pid=381602

 

[Jordanwickham]

You might be right... my friend told me not to get the match grade die set... I forget the reason he gave. But now looking at this one ... I see the stem you must be referring too.

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1018253567?pid=381602

So a tip for you. That C clip that you were asking about. Later on down the road when you get a seating depth you like you can remove that clip and remove the sleeve and stem that way and not mess up your seating depth by unscrewing the top end.
The match grade seating die is pretty handy to have the micrometer but you can also just buy the micrometer as a secondary item and the same die you have becomes the match grade seating die. That is the only difference.
I'm assuming here but I'm guessing you are fairly new to reloading? Your friend may have been helping you avoid the headache of figuring out bushing dies until you are further along and more experienced in reloading. Bushing dies are kind of high maintenance especially considering the doughnut they tend to create in the neck after several firings. And I'm not real fond of bushing full length resizing dies. Too much going on at once IMO.

 

[Samuel Whittemore]

So a tip for you. That C clip that you were asking about. Later on down the road when you get a seating depth you like you can remove that clip and remove the sleeve and stem that way and not mess up your seating depth by unscrewing the top end.
The match grade seating die is pretty handy to have the micrometer but you can also just buy the micrometer as a secondary item and the same die you have becomes the match grade seating die. That is the only difference.
I'm assuming here but I'm guessing you are fairly new to reloading? Your friend may have been helping you avoid the headache of figuring out bushing dies until you are further along and more experienced in reloading. Bushing dies are kind of high maintenance especially considering the doughnut they tend to create in the neck after several firings. And I'm not real fond of bushing full length resizing dies. Too much going on at once IMO.

Now that thar tip was worth real money!! Thank yee!

And yes... I am new to this. There's a lot more to it than what I first thought. I like learning... and for the fact I went and tried to corner the market on a whole range of powders before I kind of knew there's more to it than just buying powders in what was recommended in the load data book and what I read online..... add to that panic buying. Whatever... in for a penny in for a pound. I will make my goal of a mile one day.

My friend said that about the bushings... basically 'a'lotta fuckery with nearly imperceptible results'.
But then he said to return all those 250 grain A-tips I bought too and find something less expensive... and work up a load, right. Haha.

Thanks again Jordan.

PS You mean a micrometer seating die for the hornady 300 prc like this?

Hornady MicroJust Seating Stem

The Hornady Microjust Seating Stem is a great accessory to get the most accuracy out of your New Dimension Seating dies. The Microjust Seating Stem...

www.midwayusa.com

 

[Jordanwickham]

Now that thar tip was worth real money!! Thank yee!

And yes... I am new to this. There's a lot more to it than what I first thought. I like learning... and for the fact I went and tried to corner the market on a whole range of powders before I kind of knew there's more to it than just buying powders in what was recommended in the load data book and what I read online..... add to that panic buying. Whatever... in for a penny in for a pound. I will make my goal of a mile one day.

My friend said that about the bushings... basically 'a'lotta fuckery with nearly imperceptible results'.
But then he said to return all those 250 grain A-tips I bought too and find something less expensive... and work up a load, right. Haha.

Thanks again Jordan.

PS You mean a micrometer seating die for the hornady 300 prc like this?

Hornady MicroJust Seating Stem

The Hornady Microjust Seating Stem is a great accessory to get the most accuracy out of your New Dimension Seating dies. The Microjust Seating Stem...

www.midwayusa.com

Yeah man A-Tips for a new reloader are like a Ferrari for a four year old. It will be a little while before you are able to get much out of them.
And yes that micrometer seating stem is pretty handy. Otherwise you kind of end up dicking with your die when you go to change seating depths. The microjust saves alot of time and annoyance.

Honestly I'd either return or save for later the A-Tips. It would give me the nervous shits using an $80 box of bullets for a new load development or for effectively plinking while learning to reload.

 

[Samuel Whittemore]

* Ferrari for a four year old.
* Honestly I'd either return or save for later the A-Tips.

Thanks for tha.t That sums it up quite accurately and made me laugh. TY. I'm going to keep the A-tips I think... probably to late to return them --plus it'll give me something to work towards... I would like to hunt wild boar someday --or elk.

 

[Jordanwickham]

Cali does have some nice boar and elk. Atleast they did I don't know what the current state of all of it is.