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What secuirty system do you use while away?

Djstorm100

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Being that this will be my first home come March. I want a Secuirty system (been looking at Simplisafe) and a Video secuirty system.

What do you use or if anyone does this as a profession could point me in the right direcions. I've been looking at Swann brand
 
This one!
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lmao!

I'm looking closing at Simplisafe...no contract and great service.
 
Labrador... As long as the bad guys don't bring treats we're good!

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Not mine as I'm to lazy to take pics and find a host right now....but my 2 look similar to these guys

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Belgian Malanois,,,,but also looking into Simplisafe or something like.
Pic is not mine, borrowed from the net. Don't have any good pics of mine.
 

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I have installed a few surveillance systems, which I would consider to be a different layer than central station/alarm system. I would recommend both. One has a monthly charge, they other you install yourself.

The Swann and other system sold by Costco are pretty good, at least the DVR is. However the cameras only give a good quality image when objects are fairly close, say 25' or less. I would buy the DVR from Costco, and use a few of their cameras. Then I would buy some high quality cameras/lenses somewhere else. You can find some used, very high quality cameras on ebay for 1/4 of what they would normally cost. At some camera locations a Pan/Tilt/Zoom (PTZ) camera is convenient, but most locations it is not necessary.
 
I am using a contract based company,Security networks. That being said I have all wireless motion sensors, door sensors, and glass sensors. Most are hidden or hard to spot. Wireless smoke and CO2 detector. The system is a AC powered battery backup with cell phone call system. So there is no landline to cut and cutting house power does nothing either. The unit voice records as we'll.

I have no idea is the system can be jammed but I feel pretty safe at night with it. I have travel a lot in the past two years and never lost any sleep from it.

That being said I am sure there are a lot better out there, this is just what I could afford.

Nutt
 
We will have a dog no question, but my wife trains them (soon to be wife) and is like a damn dog whisper I swear. It is freaking amazing what she can get a dog to do.
 
I am using a contract based company,Security networks. That being said I have all wireless motion sensors, door sensors, and glass sensors. Most are hidden or hard to spot. Wireless smoke and CO2 detector. The system is a AC powered battery backup with cell phone call system. So there is no landline to cut and cutting house power does nothing either. The unit voice records as we'll.

I have no idea is the system can be jammed but I feel pretty safe at night with it. I have travel a lot in the past two years and never lost any sleep from it.

That being said I am sure there are a lot better out there, this is just what I could afford.

Nutt

I have the same system and really like it. The Thermostat alone has pretty much paid for the system with my travel schedule and what it's saved me on my energy bills. All in all I'm very happy with it.

2gig makes the hardware, Security Networks is the monitoring side and Alarm.com provides the online access/interface to the system.
 
We've had the contract kind for awhile. It expires in May and I domt think I'm renewing it, just want a siren instead. It would take the state police at least 20min to get to my house from a silent alarm.

I'm thinking loud noise will probably be more effective, and I need a big dog
 
Dropcam works surprisingly well. Super simple everything in HD and it is all "cloud" based. You have the option to record a week or a month - you choose the paid plan (or no plan at all) The quality is impressive check out a few of the public dropcams here. Best part you can watch from any device or browser. Combine that with a simple alarm system and you should have it all covered.


To watch from say my phone you would have to pay for the cloud plan..unless the camera is hooked up to a DVR reciever/ wireless system.
 
A properly secured wi-fi network is more difficult to get into than the average home is. Seriously.
 
I did this shit for decades. I held licenses in multiple states and I've done jewelry stores, NFA dealers, you name it. I can't talk about my favorites. So I kinda know my shit.

I've wrote exhaustive threads on here so I'm not going in depth on these questions anymore. You can pick my brain via PM if you like.

Note one of the best systems you can get is still the old 1980's Radionics. But you'll need a dealer, likely a local one to do it. Proprietary programmers make them ultra-secure. Better than most modern alarms today, just you can't program it yourself.

Basic packages are good to get started on a budget, but they are by no means a full security package. You are likely to get raped on contracts too, no windows covered and likely a sloppy job. If you have the money, go with a good local company with a good reputation and one that does their own monitoring and has radio service.

Monitoring needs to be done via cell phone (you clone the PIN into transimitter) or radio (costly as it's usually local). You can find monitoring alone for much less online, just make sure they are UL listed for such. You save money, but you'll need to program it. Forget landline, I can shut down your landline system in seconds. If you have a dog, I can handle him a multitude of ways, from lethal to non-lethal.

Exterior sirens, big 30W motherfuckers, even if your code dispermits them, use them anyway. I use boosters and multiple ones with multiple circuits, backups and tampers, etc. Good fucking luck turning this one off!

There's so many aspects that go into a good or great security system I can't really go into all of them here. I can say cameras are good for deterrence, but they need to be hidden at the same time to be effective. They also are only good for after the fact unless the system is integrated to notify you of a breech, then display on screen what the camera sees. More than one guy has been caught red handed this way with no loss of possessions. Those Costco camera kits aren't that bad really, especially when price is considered, and this is professionally speaking, but they may not do everything you desire like notify you.

Lethal reactive alarms are illegal here. So use tear gas. Clear out is my favorite. It'll leave little residue and they won't be hanging around for long with a 20lb. canister of CS dumped in the house. They don't sell these due to liability, I checked, so you have to rig this up yourself.

Work with your neighbors. Myself and my two side neighbors both have alarms I supplied (for my own purposes really --I want to stop intruders before they reach me, I love my neighbors but they are my buffer zone too). When one of the three goes off, whoever is available responds and holds a perimeter until the cops get here. We had common break-ins around here when I moved in, but I think they're getting the picture now.

Multilayer it and have a good plan. Don't overlook your locks --doors with windows nearby or in them need to be keyed on both sides. If you have a long drive and can gate it, do so.

Safe: TL-15 or TL-30 (my choice for bang for buck) is the safe you want. Mine has a 5" thick steel door (not full of bullshit, it's steel) with steel plate walls. Get a bigger, cheaper two door model later for storing less expensive shit or overflow items.

Good luck, and security has to be multilayered in order to be effective, remember that.

PS, before you do anything, have several guys come out and give estimates and see what they each recommend. It'll at least give you something to go by if you decide to do it yourself, and if not you'll have some good leads. Call local dealers and ADT corporate, try and stay away from dealers unless you know someone in the that trade.
 
They also are only good for after the fact unless the system is integrated to notify you of a breech, then display on screen what the camera sees.

Cam It! - Index. The Blue Iris system sends warnings of motion detected on any camera to my phone, (Android or iPhone). It works with all kinds of IP Cameras and provides web access to those cameras too. I have a secondary system on a laptop by my bed and with some very easy edits to audio files it tells me which camera is being triggered in real time. My 10 camera system has been running like a top for more than a year for under $1000 using a mixture of inexpensive and mid-range cameras depending upon where they are situated. Some people are running 64 HD cameras through the system though that would obviously be a lot more expensive.
 
Dogs are not good security by themselves. I had many drug dealers use them when I was a cop and I never had a problem making entry without dog attacking or hurting the dog. If I figured it out many can

For security you want something that defeats the average thief in a hurry. That's a guy with huge screwdriver, hammer and channel locks. Big safe and lots of locks on doors. Get audible alarm for doors and windows as well.


If your hit by real professional thief who wants what you have he will get it
 
My insurance agent and I are in the midst of evaluating my coverage, specifically on firearms and related items.

One thing he pointed out is that there's an automatic 10% discount (with their company) if you have an alarm system that "calls the police". Might not be a bad idea to ask your local PD or Dispatch agency which companies they have "reporting in to them". They won't recommend any specific company but you'll probably get a good idea. They most likely won't mention the "turds".

Even if one has a great security system, don't overlook the need for a good safe. One that isn't just big and heavy, but is bolted to concrete, had good "re-lock" features in the door mechanism. and can provide protection for your "goodies" until the police can arrive. At my house that's 6 minutes AFTER the alarm company calls them. When the monitoring center receives an alarm they usually call the homeowner first. If they can't get them, or they don't get the right "password" only then will they call the 911 dispatch center. Like I said then you get to wait 6 minutes for the police to arrive.

Ever see the video on how a gun safe can be opened in less than one minute?

Sturdy Gun Safe 9lb. Sledge Hammer Deadbolt Test Video - YouTube

There are others that show how an attack on the front of the safe has exactly the same effect, defeating all relock features.

If your safe can be opened in this short a period of time, your guns were gone for 4-5 minutes BEFORE the cops arrived.
 
Get this..Yesterday/last night someone broke in and stole the dish washer. Kicked in the back door.

















 
Was this a home under construction or remodel?

Stealing a dishwasher only would put one of the workmen high on the list of suspects. Either they, or one of their friends has a new dishwasher.
 
Was this a home under construction or remodel?

Stealing a dishwasher only would put one of the workmen high on the list of suspects. Either they, or one of their friends has a new dishwasher.

Yes sir, it's under construction in a new neighborhood. We haven't moved in and don't close march 21.


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I'd read post #22 a few times...

Layers!

If you have a new house, you likely have smoke and CO detectors installed, but get one of each, and a flammable gas detector included in whatever alarm system you have. It is worth it. Also, motions and glass breaks are often less $ and offer better coverage than wiring every door and window.
 
I'd read post #22 a few times...

Layers!

If you have a new house, you likely have smoke and CO detectors installed, but get one of each, and a flammable gas detector included in whatever alarm system you have. It is worth it. Also, motions and glass breaks are often less $ and offer better coverage than wiring every door and window.

Does any company actually wire all doors and windows anymore? Got a neighbor with a "Big Name Alarm" system and only the front and back door are "wired" and those are with wireless sensors. He's forever having service calls for low batteries.

As for motion detectors, all great unless you have a house full of pets. A recent break-in showed how the alarm system was skirted. They went through an outside wall and once in just crawled on the floor.

Too bad the homeowner didn't have a "pet" in the form of a hungry rottweiler with no vocal cords.
 
Whatever you do don't be stupid and put up an alarm system sign advertising which system it is. Some sorry souls get jobs working for alarm company's so they can learn how to disable those systems. So if you get Joe Podunk's alarm system and you feel like you need to put up a sign use one from a different company. That way the thief's will set off the alarm rather than disarm it.
 
Whatever you do don't be stupid and put up an alarm system sign advertising which system it is. Some sorry souls get jobs working for alarm company's so they can learn how to disable those systems. So if you get Joe Podunk's alarm system and you feel like you need to put up a sign use one from a different company. That way the thief's will set off the alarm rather than disarm it.

I thought all those signs were just put up by people too cheap to get alarm systems and just want to scare off the burglars? :)
 
I had post #9 above. Since then, without going into detail, I confronted 2 burglars that left my door ( I was about to shower and watched them from an upstairs window) went to my neighbors and when the 1 guy went around the back of my neighbors house, the driver did a 180 in the driveway to make a get away. 10:15 Friday morning, I threw on a pair of sweats that were laying there, grabbed a handy Colt revolver to "hide" in my pocket with a good grip on it, and went over there. We had a confrontation, they left, I texted my buddy, a lieutenant with the sheriffs dept. and when he went to run the plates, LOW AND BEHOLD, there was already a BOLO for them from 2 earlier burglaries they were seen leaving, 15 miles away from here!!! Before the day was out, they hit 6 houses total !!!
So, I just an hour ago completed the installation of my SimpliSafe alarm system. I had been researching alarm companies for a year, this just made me make a purchase right away. We have a Belgian Malinois and because she barked when they rang my doorbell, they went next door.
But having the SimpliSafe is an extra measure of protection. Having various weapons hidden thru out the house is just icing on the cake. The Mal would scare most every burglar away, the alarm will send most anyone else, the weapons will kill the crackheads that think they're invincible, I hope !!!
With the SimpliSafe I bought entry sensors for every door/window, motion detectors all around and even 1 glass break that covers the rear windows in 2 rooms. We're NEVER completely safe, but for the $$$ I spent and the monitored coverage I get for $25.00 per month I couldn't be any happier !!! And no, I'm not in any way what so ever affiliated with SimpliSafe. But I did my homework and read everything I could.
Wow, remember hearing about the old days when people left their doors open or unlocked at night and often when they left during the day?
Peace.
 
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