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what should a bore look like at 183 rounds- 6mm Creedmoor

Hudsflywater

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Dec 6, 2020
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Oregon
Last fall I bought a "new" MPA Custom Competition Rifle in 6mm Creedmoor. I have been having a time getting a load dialed in for it, and for now have settled on 39gn of H4350, Nosler brass, (once fired now), Nosler 105 RDF's at .005" jump, CCI #200 primers. I have kind of been all over the place, but finely figured out that around 40.8 grains, or at 3100 fps, its over pressure. The load mentioned above runs around 3050 fps with an es around 15. I have picked up some Lapua Brass and Hornady 110 A-Tips I loaded for some testing with Federal 205M primers and H4350.

I just recently bought the new Lyman bore cam, and was looking at the bore. Do these pics look like a barrel that only has 183 rounds down it?? the barrel had very heavy carbon deposits I managed to get out with a lot of Bore Tech C4 and finally JB and Kroil! Any advise would be appreciated, I'v not looked at a lot of bore pictures, and while I understand the heat fractures these look excessive to me for only that many rounds. I am wondering if I was sold a used rifle??

These pictures are from the start of the lands to about 1" forward of the chamber.
 

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Is that the load that you used all along and then it got worse or just something you put together and it always shot 3/4 moa?
 
So the best you have ever gotten is 3/4 moa? What made you stop there?
I can't get any other powders listed for it, H4350 is all I have and a few hundred 105 RDF's. I just got the hornday A-Tips, and have some loads put together for them, I haven't shot them yet, I'm curious to see what they will do, hopefully better than the RDF's. I just got to look in the bore, and noticed the fire cracking, the barrel may shoot if I can find the right load. I'm just currious if that amount of cracking is normal for a barrel with only 183 rounds through it?
 
I can't get any other powders listed for it, H4350 is all I have and a few hundred 105 RDF's. I just got the hornday A-Tips, and have some loads put together for them, I haven't shot them yet, I'm curious to see what they will do, hopefully better than the RDF's. I just got to look in the bore, and noticed the fire cracking, the barrel may shoot if I can find the right load. I'm just currious if that amount of cracking is normal for a barrel with only 183 rounds through it?

No idea. Never looked at any of mine. I know my present barrel has about 350 round on it and it shoots factory ammo at 1/2 moa or better. H4350 is an excellent powder for he Creedmoor. Just got to find the right load combo

The link above to the Tubb TMS might be worth looking at if you can’t get it to shoot.
 
When you say “new”, im guessing you purchased it from an individual? It looks a lot worse than my 6 creed with around 500 rounds. I have a Hawkeye or I would post pics.
 
No idea. Never looked at any of mine. I know my present barrel has about 350 round on it and it shoots factory ammo at 1/2 moa or better. H4350 is an excellent powder for he Creedmoor. Just got to find the right load combo

The link above to the Tubb TMS might be worth looking at if you can’t get it to shoot.
I'll look at it thanks!
 
Good thing bullets or dicks dont have eyes. They would never enter a hole that looked like that. :LOL:

Call MPA if you are concerned.

Have had two 6 creeds and I dont think my barrel looked like that at 186 .

Here are two images of my 6 Creeds throat with a documented 1282 rounds.




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Good thing bullets or dicks dont have eyes. They would never enter a hole that looked like that. :LOL:

Call MPA if you are concerned.

Have had two 6 creeds and I dont think my barrel looked like that at 186 .

Here are two images of my 6 Creeds throat with a documented 1289 rounds.




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That looks about right. Whats the load?
 
Good thing bullets or dicks dont have eyes. They would never enter a hole that looked like that. :LOL:

Call MPA if you are concerned.

Have had two 6 creeds and I dont think my barrel looked like that at 186 .

Here are two images of my 6 Creeds throat with a documented 1282 rounds.




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These tell a lot, thanks for uploading! I have sent the picts to Woody at MPA, Im awaiting his response. I'm really hoping they didn't sell me a used rifle with a worn out barrel, they have been a pretty good shop to deal with, but this may be my last business with them??
 
Good thing bullets or dicks dont have eyes. They would never enter a hole that looked like that. :LOL:

Call MPA if you are concerned.

Have had two 6 creeds and I dont think my barrel looked like that at 186 .

Here are two images of my 6 Creeds throat with a documented 1282 rounds.




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About the same as my 7 saum at that round count