What the Jesus Fu#ck, Hegseth?

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Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth on Friday announced a finalized agreement that will allow the Qatari Emiri Air Force to build a facility at the Mountain Home Air Force Base in Idaho.

The agreement, which Hegseth announced alongside Qatari Minister of Defense Sheikh Saoud bin Abdulrahman Al Thani at the Pentagon, will allow Qatari pilots to receive training alongside U.S. soldiers. There are no foreign military bases in the U.S., but some foreign militaries do maintain a presence for training. The Singaporean Air Force also has a presence at the Mountain Home base.

Yeah, I'm not sure about this. For a bunch of reasons.
 
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Yeah, we’ve been training pilots from AF’s around the world since forever… plus very robust exchange programs with almost every allied nation (primarily NATO). One of my best AF buddies flew with the Spanish AF for over 3 years; family moved to Spain, etc. Hell, I was stationed at Ramstein for 6 years.

And we have bases all over the world, including Qatar, so why wouldn’t we return the favor? Tightly controlled and monitored of course, but those operations bring in a ton of money to those local communities.

And the German AF has a base adjacent to Holloman AFB; or used to anyway, I’ve been retired for 10+ years! LoL
 
30 years ago El Paso airspace was lousy with Luftwaffa trainees. No idea about since then.

And F117s shooting approaches with a wingman. Story was the F117 driver was under the bag and the wingman was the safety pilot, might of been a tall tale about the bag, but it was fun watching a 117 in the pattern.
 
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Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth on Friday announced a finalized agreement that will allow the Qatari Emiri Air Force to build a facility at the Mountain Home Air Force Base in Idaho.

The agreement, which Hegseth announced alongside Qatari Minister of Defense Sheikh Saoud bin Abdulrahman Al Thani at the Pentagon, will allow Qatari pilots to receive training alongside U.S. soldiers. There are no foreign military bases in the U.S., but some foreign militaries do maintain a presence for training. The Singaporean Air Force also has a presence at the Mountain Home base.

Yeah, I'm not sure about this. For a bunch of reasons.

It's nothing new. When I was in the navy in the 1980's the Saudis had their own barracks at several bases I was at.
 
Qatar supports muzzy terrorists on one hand while trying to cuddle up to the U.S. with the other. I do not advocate for any military to have a permanent or semi-permanent presence in the U.S.

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Perhaps we should do the same, then?

Kinda like that pot and kettle thing.
 
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Training foreign militaries is one thing, in my direct experience, but letting foreign governments of questionable loyalty to the U.S. construct their own facilities on CONUS base isn't quite the same thing. Especially post-9/11/GWOT.

German AF and Singapore don't really seem like the same as Qatar either.
 
We have been training foreign air forces at our bases for decades in my direct experience. This is a big yawn, IMO.
Indeed. We’ve trained foreign military for many years. When I was at Ft. Sam Houston we had Ethiopian medical personnel training there. Just last year we had members of the Saudi Royal Guard out to shoot at our private club range. They were at Hunter Army Airfield and Ft. Stewart for training. Really a nice bunch of guys, by the way. Big nothing burger.
 
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Perhaps we should do the same, then?

Kinda like that pot and kettle thing.
I am all for the U.S. pulling troops out of every other country in the world, take a more isolationist position, strengthen the homeland and let other countries solve their own problems. Trump ended USAID, which financially supported the entire globe, so pulling the military out of all other countries would be another additional and very sizeable savings. Fuck other countries.
 
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Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth on Friday announced a finalized agreement that will allow the Qatari Emiri Air Force to build a facility at the Mountain Home Air Force Base in Idaho.

The agreement, which Hegseth announced alongside Qatari Minister of Defense Sheikh Saoud bin Abdulrahman Al Thani at the Pentagon, will allow Qatari pilots to receive training alongside U.S. soldiers. There are no foreign military bases in the U.S., but some foreign militaries do maintain a presence for training. The Singaporean Air Force also has a presence at the Mountain Home base.

Yeah, I'm not sure about this. For a bunch of reasons.
Dude, this is nothing to get riled up about. I've been all over the planet and a Qatari is in the bottom 5% of people to worry about. And it gives us (the USA) a lot of capabilities that would be otherwise very difficult to get.
 
Qatar supports muzzy terrorists on one hand while trying to cuddle up to the U.S. with the other. I do not advocate for any military to have a permanent or semi-permanent presence in the U.S.
Friends close, enemies closer blah blah blah.
As long as the check clears and their offspring doesn’t marry their brother and get elected to congress…
 
Friend it was a CWO5 in the first Iraq war and he told my wife that the war wasn’t about oil and it wasn’t about bounty. It was about us putting armed women in front of Arabs for the first time and once Pandora was out of the box, she would never go back.

When I was in Iraq 2009-2010, many local men were still astounded that we “armed our women and placed them in positions of authority.”

Back home, we just call them “the wife.”

Armed and dangerous.
 
Yeah, did wonders for Yamamoto…

It would have if his high command had listened to him.

He was right on!

Besides… he was at Harvard… not Annapolis.

And if you look at the track records of the trash that Harvard puts out, it’s a wonder Yamamoto could even spell Pearl Harbor…

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Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth on Friday announced a finalized agreement that will allow the Qatari Emiri Air Force to build a facility at the Mountain Home Air Force Base in Idaho.

The agreement, which Hegseth announced alongside Qatari Minister of Defense Sheikh Saoud bin Abdulrahman Al Thani at the Pentagon, will allow Qatari pilots to receive training alongside U.S. soldiers. There are no foreign military bases in the U.S., but some foreign militaries do maintain a presence for training. The Singaporean Air Force also has a presence at the Mountain Home base.

Yeah, I'm not sure about this. For a bunch of reasons.
Clearly you've never been to any of the multitude of US military bases where we have been train foreign military members for decades. We have bases where NATO partners train and other bases where non-NATO partners train. Mountain Home in Idaho is for Non-NATO partners.




And go fuck yourself.
 
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Clearly you've never been to any of the multitude of US military bases where we have been train foreign military members for decades. We have bases where NATO partners train and other bases where non-NATO partners train. Mountain Home in Idaho is for Non-NATO partners.




And go fuck yourself
Not sure if the "gfy" is for me, but ok. Trained IMOD, Taiwan, and SLAF, in the last 3 years. Mostly on their terf. Not sure that letting our "good friends" in Qatar build their own facility on a CONUS airbase is the same as training a NATO partner like Germany, but again, ok. I'm of a different opinion, however.
 

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...cause they were Afghan.

I'm sure these are the "good" muzzies though. Like our "close allies" the Saudis.


You know, the people that many posters here have identified as being incompatible with Western civilization- other than London, Dearborn, Minneapolis.
 
Not sure if the "gfy" is for me, but ok. Trained IMOD, Taiwan, and SLAF, in the last 3 years. Mostly on their terf. Not sure that letting our "good friends" in Qatar build their own facility on a CONUS airbase is the same as training a NATO partner like Germany, but again, ok. I'm of a different opinion, however.
Seen plenty of Peruvian military at Benning in the late 90s. Most of NATO is just as useless. What's your point?
 
1.Not buying that Qatar and U.S. goals are aligned in tbe long term. Like, Iran for instance- once friends, now, not so much.

2. Generally believe that U.S. is mostly aligned with NATO countries. Of course we would train together toward a common, and longstanding objective.

3. Not into embedding foreign countries' militaries on U.S. soil- no matter what we've done in the past. I'm sure there's a way to train their AF without bringing them to MHAFB, and building them their own facility within our own wire.
 
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I've trained more foreign partners than most. I've conducted 8 JCETs, PDPs, or CNTs across the globe. Foreign officers go through the Q course all the time and just get waived through. For all the fools claiming they saw "xxxx country train in Ft Benning in 1987", it's pretty fucking unrelated to giving a foreign nation land in the US to build their own base. I've been stationed overseas for 13 cumulative years. Not deployed, stationed. A US base in a host nation is a mini-America. The host nation's LEO doesn't come on base, you exist in a special legal status called a SOFA, your troops impregnate and marry host nation women, you don't pay their sales tax, your spouses that work in the economy don't pay their income taxes, your kids go to their schools, tax free. This is something America does to foreign countries. Not something foreign countries does to America. And for a reason. We project American power overseas through foreign staging bases. It's strategic You want to train some Arabs. Sure. Go for it. Give them land in our country? That's a whole nother conversation. What's the Qatari strategy for this? What is ours? "Readiness"? GTFO. Have anything to do with the aircraft the Qataris gave Trump? Maybe?

Why do foreign companies own one of the rarest quartz mines in the world, in America? Why do we allow that? If you're an isolationist, why would you be okay with foreign corporations owning strategic resources in our country and mine our precious minerals? Why do we allow the Chinese to own our mortgage backed securities? What could be so good for America to allow Qataris to train flying our jets in our country to allow them to own our land? We don't need to be in Idaho to train Arabs to fly jets. Makes no sense on the surface, which means ...

Everyone is looking for conspiracies until their home football team looks shady.

Fucking insane the cognitive dissonance.

Fuck, thank you! Not sure why that was so hard!
 
Clearly you've never been to any of the multitude of US military bases where we have been train foreign military members for decades. We have bases where NATO partners train and other bases where non-NATO partners train. Mountain Home in Idaho is for Non-NATO partners.




And go fuck yourself.

I miss Idaho, but I sure don't miss Mountain Home AFB.
 
It would have if his high command had listened to him.

He was right on!

Besides… he was at Harvard… not Annapolis.

And if you look at the track records of the trash that Harvard puts out, it’s a wonder Yamamoto could even spell Pearl Harbor…

Sirhr
I would hazard a guess that the Harvard of today bears little resemblance to the Harvard when Yamamoto attended.