Wheels coming off Assad regime
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Much like during our "disastrous withdrawal" from Afghanistan, the Russians and the Chinese didn't have any problems...
New extremists know they need money because money runs everything.
They know all that money from the CIA / MIC is not going to be there long now that we had our fun
So they need backup sources of funding to keep their wives living comfortably in Paris and London.
Israel is burning down a stockpile on one end and Turks are bombing Kurds when they stock on SAA arms.
Not much but droped Aks left
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This guy claims Israel took out around 90% of Syrian Air Defense. The pansirs and SA17(buks) are basically gone.
Also claims the S 400 is being moved out of Russia’s base
Among other stuff.
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That basically follows the route of the trans Arabian pipe line which has been off since Jordan supported Iraq in the 1990 invasion, never used since.
And Assad didn’t reject anything, it’s false information… this is not a “pipeline” war
truthout.org
And Assad didn’t reject anything, it’s false information… this is not a “pipeline” war
The War Against the Assad Regime Is Not a "Pipeline War"
A desire to maintain US military hegemony, not a concern over natural gas, is behind the war in Syria.
truthout.org
my,my that can't be the reason the US & turkey wanted assad to fall. the saudi distaste for pipe lines is interesting. the US has been trying to dump assad for years and the reasons one hears are likely bogus. wonder what the real reason was.
That basically follows the route of the trans Arabian pipe line which has been off since Jordan supported Iraq in the 1990 invasion, never used since.
And Assad didn’t reject anything, it’s false information… this is not a “pipeline” warView attachment 8568288
The War Against the Assad Regime Is Not a "Pipeline War"
A desire to maintain US military hegemony, not a concern over natural gas, is behind the war in Syria.
I agree it's not a pipeline war. It's a war on behalf of Israel's interests. That's why we are involved, and also to weaken Russia by proxy.
Though if countries/economies are going to get a pipeline out of it, it's an easier sell for some.
that's spin, jmo. what pipeline did the kingdom stop? give us an example.That basically follows the route of the trans Arabian pipe line which has been off since Jordan supported Iraq in the 1990 invasion, never used since.
And Assad didn’t reject anything, it’s false information… this is not a “pipeline” warView attachment 8568288
The War Against the Assad Regime Is Not a "Pipeline War"
A desire to maintain US military hegemony, not a concern over natural gas, is behind the war in Syria.
mostly it comes down to transport fees...which is why turkey was so happy to help mcstain, graham and clinton to smuggle arms to the muslim brotherhood to kick things off.
would not argue that there could be various other reasons for regime change, like hurting iran or helping israel.
it isn't like assad was more of a danger to israel than the terrorists that now rule, but it gave israel a chance to destroy so much of the syrian defenses and offensive capabilities. now they can continue to act with relative impunity.
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It was an idea that never came to fruition, if you read the link I posted above they explain it.
Here read this. https://truthout.org/articles/the-war-against-the-assad-regime-is-not-a-pipeline-war/
They were allowing Iran to pump weapons into the area, making their way into the hands of Hezbolla, who then attacked Israel… so it’s not like they didn’t ask for it.
Middle East ain’t Sesame Street.
What happens next is likely not going to make the situation any better. And it's certainly not in our interests to have a destabilized Syria ran by terrorists.
It's not in anybody's interest to have a destabilized Syria ran by terrorists, not just in ME but globally. The ME is a powder keg and the fk show that Syria is turning into is the fuse. The absolutely horrible foreign policy of the present administration is the root cause.
I agree.
I have a really bad feeling about this Syria situation. For some reason, this one sits even less well with me than Ukraine. The current trajectory of escalation of events around the globe is not a comforting one. And to see our government so happy to make and support such escalations and provocations is incredibly worrisome.
but it was british petroleum
i do agree with this part...
The US decision to support Turkey, Qatar and Saudi Arabia in their ill-conceived plan to overthrow the Assad regime was primarily a function of the primordial interest of the US permanent war state in its regional alliances. The three Sunni allies control US access to the key US military bases in the region, and the Pentagon, the CIA, the State Department and the Obama White House were all concerned, above all, with protecting the existing arrangements for the US military posture in the region.
People should remember that the CIA spent over a billion dollars trying to perform regime change operations in Syria under Obama...
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Can't be true....cause Zero was given a Nobel Peace Prize, he wouldn't have done anything like that. ( where's the sarcasm emoji)
I agree there is definitely a chance this goes very wrong. Praying for the best outcome!
Darwin has his job cut out whenever ME folks 'celebrate' with guns
Sesame Street is in the Bronx.
Have you seen the kind of shit that goes on after hours?
It's absolutely in the interests of the ones doing the orchestration.
They want destabilization in the area. It helps them funnel money back into their own accounts. It's been that way for decades.
Can’t be much worse than what goes on in New Orleans. But mostly small arms, if when they(ghetto super stars) start playing Stalins organs then it’s getting some where.Sesame Street is in the Bronx.
Have you seen the kind of shit that goes on after hours?
CNN's raid on Stalag 13 in Syria , cheap spinofs continue
The Atlantic is such a trash rag. It's beyond repugnant.
They constantly push for war and conflict, and our intervention everywhere. They have yet to see a war they didn't like.
Straight up McCarthyite bullshit.
When the CIA came into existence, it's very first operations were regime change operations to benefit Western corporations. This was the Dulles' brothers modus operandi.
The first two ops were to overthrow the Iranian government (in a joint operation with the Brits), as they were going to nationalize their oilfields, and to overthrow the Guatemalan government as they were going to nationalize the United Fruit Companies banana plantations to give back to the locals.
In this specific situation, I don't think this regime change op is specifically about a pipeline. Though allegedly this has been a focus in the past. Certainly is a nice bonus though.
I think this is more a concerted effort to strengthen western military position in the region while simultaneously weakening Russia's and Iran's.
It seems counterproductive to be financing “rebels” that are fighting each other, no?
I don't think there's consistency or coherency in our foreign adventurism.
And a lot of it is compartmentalized. The State Department is funding one side for their own goals, while the CIA is funding another.
I think these Intel agencies, especially the CIA, do their own things with no real oversight or accountability. And sometimes those things are counter to what other government agencies and departments are doing. They seem out of control.
There are two common attributes from all sides and parties. Grifting American taxpayer dollars and child sex trafficking.
Bureaucracy perpetuates itself. The Pentagon has 30k-35k employees. The FBI has 40k-50k, CIA probably 30k, hooray for our very own secret police. There are ~10k secretaries and gofers working for Congress on Capitol Hill. Another 3k or so at the White House. The Department of Agriculture probably has 120-150k total over all 50 states. The department of education has 4k-5k people and all they do is decide how much money each state gets, testing standards etc.
Don’t lose sight of the south and the plans for it. The canal would cause more problems in that area that most would admit as it would seriously impact GDP of other countries.
Everyone has gotta pay attention to the details as it is apparent that a lot of the moves lately have been in the works for more than a decade, on multiple fronts in multiple countries.
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And most of this would mean absolutely nothing to the Joe Average American if we had energy independence at home - something we were achieving under Trump. Yet one more reason they want(ed) him gone. Energy independence not good for global "bidness." Disgusting approach to "policy." True energy independence, unlike what the greenies want, is a plethora of sources: solar, wind, hydro, nuclear, coal, petroleum distillates.
What’s over under on King Abdullah?
No fan of Kingdoms but dude has lead a stable and peaceful country.
When will neocons have him in their sights to be replaced by a homicidal regime?
No fan of Kingdoms but dude has lead a stable and peaceful country.
When will neocons have him in their sights to be replaced by a homicidal regime?
There is some thought here that Jordan is in a tight spot. A lot of Palestinians live there, so it could get amped up. There is also the Greater Israel plan that is in the offing, and it is a pretty big insult to Jordan.
Kind Abdullah of Jordan is very westernized, about 10 or 15 years ago he took a harley road trip through arizona, california and oregon/idaho. He's not stupid either, was educated in England, is a pilot iirc.
Spot on here. He's fairly tame as far as M.E. leaders go and I think he spent quite a bit of time in the USA. That's pretty much game-set-match for the globalist war lords who want constant turmoil.
We didn't learn much from axing Saddam did we? Yes, bad man...no doubt....but he kept the peace in his country (Sunni and Shia) which is more than I can say currently about the majority of the M.E. Iraq was fairly secular and he kept it that way. Am I a Saddam fan - F no. But, to think just removing despots and letting people take over is a good plan (unless you want permanent war) is about as insane of idea as there is.
