Where have all the dies gone?

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I can understand why some things are unobtanium...

Primers.
Powder.
Brass.

Folks have hoarded stocked up on components.

But dies? Where or where have all the dies gone?

Can't even buy a simple FL sizing die from any of the major manufactures. Redding, RCBS, Hornady, Forster. All out of stock of everything.
 

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    There has to be a manufacturing component too, right? Bc who panic buys dies?

    There is a manufacturing component as well. That component is that demand is outstripping current mfg capacity.

    Look, you're trying to think rationally about the causes of a completely irrational behavior.

    Let me ask you, why did people panic buy toilet paper even though:
    1. COVID-19 does not cause any gastrointestinal disease or symptoms
    2. Every state's restrictions on public movement and outdoor activity included SPECIFIC EXCEPTIONS for trips to seek medical care and to buy necessities such as food, water, and hygiene products
    It's completely irrational behavior that no one can stop.
     

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    Mighty Armory recently had some dies in stock and Short Action Customs has more coming into stock next week.
     

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    I know of more people who have tried to get into reloading in the last year than ever before. I say try, they have been buying stuff but they havent gotten everything they need to put together any actual rounds yet. But they are trying to get to that point when they can. Thats where everything is going.
    Theyve got brass bullets and dies in the closet... but no powder primers or press or anything else.

    "I cant find ammo, Ill try to make my own." And I imagine that they will get everything about the time that factory ammo stays on the shelves regularly.
     

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    I can understand why some things are unobtanium...

    Primers.
    Powder.
    Brass.

    Folks have hoarded stocked up on components.

    But dies? Where or where have all the dies gone?

    Can't even buy a simple FL sizing die from any of the major manufactures. Redding, RCBS, Hornady, Forster. All out of stock of everything.
    Got to remember, the country was shut down unless you were “essential” for two-three months or in some cases more(blue controlled states). As ppl were shut down, manufacturers included, as everyone was buying up supplies and components while being shut down. Now we’re dealing with the ripple effect of being shut down and on top of everything being sold out ppl are buying what gets put out on shelves while the distributors are then filling huge back log of everything so it’s going to take awhile to replenish things to be in stock.
     
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    I took the opportunity to sell all my older dies, and upgrade. I have a bunch of dies on backorder.
     
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    I can understand why some things are unobtanium...

    Primers.
    Powder.
    Brass.

    Folks have hoarded stocked up on components.

    But dies? Where or where have all the dies gone?

    Can't even buy a simple FL sizing die from any of the major manufactures. Redding, RCBS, Hornady, Forster. All out of stock of everything.
    I think it's got a lot to do with shooters like "me" ... that have been shooting factory ammo and changed over in the last year to reloading. First factory ammo got scarce, then reloading supplies got scarce, now reloading hardware is scarce ... as more and more shooters move "backwards" in the supply chain to feed their habits. I saw reloading as "insurance" against the ammo shortage ... and participated in creating the next shortage of reloading supplies and components. My guess is there are WAY more reloaders today ... than there were a year ago. Multiply that new number of reloaders times a few dies each, and there's your die shortage.
     

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    There is a manufacturing component as well. That component is that demand is outstripping current mfg capacity.

    Look, you're trying to think rationally about the causes of a completely irrational behavior.

    Let me ask you, why did people panic buy toilet paper even though:
    1. COVID-19 does not cause any gastrointestinal disease or symptoms
    2. Every state's restrictions on public movement and outdoor activity included SPECIFIC EXCEPTIONS for trips to seek medical care and to buy necessities such as food, water, and hygiene products
    It's completely irrational behavior that no one can stop.
    False information on Covid and gastrointestinal issues. Not disagreeing about panic buying but don’t propagate false medicine.
     

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    False information on Covid and gastrointestinal issues. Not disagreeing about panic buying but don’t propagate false medicine.

    So tell us, what % of patients exhibited GI symptoms so severe that they needed a shopping cart overflowing with toilet paper?
     
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    Things are insane. I listed an RCBS .243 Win 3 die set on e-bay starting at $40. It sold for $247. And I got paid.
    I’ve been wanting to buy dies off of there and USED dies go for more than what they sell for new!! I bought those same dies on midway awhile back for normal pricing, crazy crazy times we live in!
     

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    So tell us, what % of patients exhibited GI symptoms so severe that they needed a shopping cart overflowing with toilet paper?
    Not sure what this has to do with what I said...which had nothing to do with the conversation of panic buying and simply pointing out you made bullet points, with #1 being completely false. Everyone and anyone that has spent anytime around any volume of Covid patients knows better. It would be like me getting on hear and running my mouth about hiding in Fallujah and killing “mud suckers” or whatever real operators call them.
     

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    False information on Covid and gastrointestinal issues. Not disagreeing about panic buying but don’t propagate false medicine.

    So tell us, what % of patients exhibited GI symptoms so severe that they needed a shopping cart overflowing with toilet paper?

    My friend's father is currently trying to get over COVID-19
    He had to wind up going to the hospital for half a day to get enough IV fluids in him, because he couldn't keep anything down including liquids, was having stuff coming out of both ends of the digestive tract, and was getting seriously dehydrated.

    My friend on the other hand who got COVID-19 from his father as well, just had a significantly upset stomach but nothing crazy.
     

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    Dies? Hell, try to find a Redding VLD seating stem, and it’s just a tube of steel. Had to order one from Reloading UK!

    or try to find a #1 shell holder.

    it is indeed insane right now.
     
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    Things are insane. I listed an RCBS .243 Win 3 die set on e-bay starting at $40. It sold for $247. And I got paid.
    Aw hell I have dies for calibers that I don't have guns for any more (30-06, 6.5X55, 44 Magnum/Special).

    They're going on gunbroker tonight. If I get $250 for each that's 3K primers.
     

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    Not sure what this has to do with what I said...which had nothing to do with the conversation of panic buying and simply pointing out you made bullet points, with #1 being completely false. Everyone and anyone that has spent anytime around any volume of Covid patients knows better. It would be like me getting on hear and running my mouth about hiding in Fallujah and killing “mud suckers” or whatever real operators call them.

    Do you think I give a damn?
     

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    There has to be a manufacturing component too, right? Bc who panic buys dies?
    People who can’t find ammo, so they think they’re going to try to their hands at reloading... If that’s the case, I don’t see this going very well. Especially since 1/2 of the population still thinks wearing masks is acceptable in a free country, and 1/2 of those people would try to smell the color 9... 🤨
     
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    People who can’t find ammo, so they think they’re going to try to their hands at reloading... If that’s the case, I don’t see this going very well. Especially since 1/2 of the population still thinks wearing masks is acceptable in a free country, and 1/2 of those people would try to smell the color 9... 🤨
    I just read a PX post where someone quoted a guys for sale post of 8# of powder and asked if that guy would message him because he couldn’t figure out how to. 😳
    Not sure you need to be reloading if sending a PM is that difficult but probably just old school, 1967 Lyman manual kinda guy.
     
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    I dont know about all of them,
    But I have a set that have been circling Boulder CO for two weeks thanks to the USPS!!😡
     

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    Where has all the everything gone. It’s BS. All stored and hidden somewhere.
    Would you really put it past the Democrats? Soros and Bloomberg probably bought it all and are storing it in some abandoned aircraft hangers underground somewhere for when they mobilize their degenerate army of potato-IQ useful idiots and societal outcasts with a chip on their shoulder...

    This is just thinking out loud, I'm not saying it's happened...Just tossing it out as a sad, but not that far-fetched, possibility... 😐
     
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    I just made my first reloaded primers today, and ive been copper plating my own cast bullets. Im nowhere near out of any supplies but i wanted to see how it worked just in case. Anybody else tried any of this? I ordered 5 lbs of prime all and loaded a few rounds. Seems like a good work around just in case.
     
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    Would you really put it past the Democrats? Soros and Bloomberg probably bought it all and are storing it in some abandoned aircraft hangers underground somewhere for when they mobilize their degenerate army of potato-IQ useful idiots and societal outcasts with a chip on their shoulder...

    This is just thinking out loud, I'm not saying it's happened...Just tossing it out as a sad, but not that far-fetched, possibility... 😐
    I feel for you over there. I’m in Australia so everything ( I need) where I am is still plentiful.....at this stage... but who knows what the future holds. I mean year WTF. Have all companies just stopped producing?? I don’t think sooooo!! Find that bunker 🤣
     
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