Which bullet...for F-TR in 308?

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Just reading the F-tr faq sticky and his observation that the 168 gr. SMK is only good to 600 yards before it becomes unstable. If one wants to reload in order to be shooting out to 1000 yards with a factory Remington 700 Varminter (1:10 twist)...what bullets might one recommend?
 

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I would take a long hard look at the Berger 185gn Juggernaut... performs well, and not quite as fussy as the 200gn options as far as loading and/or gun handling. Excellent choice for getting your feet wet. It should work well anywhere from seated to mag length, to seated out to the lands (assuming that Remington barrels still have the long-a$$ throat that they used to...)
 
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I would take a long hard look at the Berger 185gn Juggernaut... performs well, and not quite as fussy as the 200gn options as far as loading and/or gun handling. Excellent choice for getting your feet wet. It should work well anywhere from seated to mag length, to seated out to the lands (assuming that Remington barrels still have the long-a$$ throat that they used to...)
I have heard from so many sources that the Juggernaut is an awesome bullet. And I certainly like the BC compared to the 168 gr. SMK. I just gag a little bit at the price. :)

Especially when I have several hundred 168 grain AND several hundred 175 grain SMK already on my loading bench.

Where is the best place to buy those bullets?
 

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I love the 208 ELD-M but am itching to try the 208 Berger. 175 SMK's or 178 ELD-M's shoot best for me at shorter ranges and lower pressures, but stuffed full of RL17, the BC of the 208's make up the difference at around 600yds. At 1000, no contest, 208's do better for me.
 

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I've been using the 168gr Hornady AMAX, but my local F-Class match is shot at 500 yards.

I've thought about using a heavier bullet, but haven't experimented with it yet. My 26" Remington 308 Varmint barrel is a 12" twist.
 

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Buddy that switched from open to ftr is using the Berger 200 20X hybrid. He won out in ND last weekend, beating all the open guys as well as the ftr guys.
 

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ND native here and annual deer hunter back there. Where can I find those results?
 

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ND native here and annual deer hunter back there. Where can I find those results?
PM me your phone number and I can send you a text from another buddy that shot the match. I grew up in Detroit Lakes, and have several reletives that went to school at NDSU.
 

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I read the match write-ups, that weekend saw sustained winds well over 20mph and still turned in respectable scores at the 800, 900, and 1K events. Those 200's really helped.
Talking to another guy who shot out there, said it is the craziest wind he has ever shot in. Chris Longley set a new record for FTR in those conditions. Glad he went over to the dark side so I don't have to shoot open with him anymore... :LOL:
 

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Thx Joel. Born in Fargo and enlisted right outa HS. Did 4 years then attended NDSU, Class of 86. PM inbound.
 

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My pick would be 175 SMK but part of that is copying issued ammo for long range matches. The story we were told is the 168 was designed as a 300 yard bullet and 600 was pushing it's limits. That was why M118LR went to the 175 and a load for 1000 meters.

I'm replacing my scope to make my rifle more useful. I shoot 2 or 3 1K matches a year and get issued ammo at matches. So I am working up a copy of M118LR. If it wasn't for that id probably look at a longer higher BC 175. I planned on trying F-TR but havent had the time.
 

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If your serious, like multiple barrels a year and ski pod bipod the 200.20x and other 200 trainers are dominant right now. Me, I shoot 175 smk off a Harris. I'm always happy to medal.
 

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If you're not running the 200 class bullets (Berger 200.20x, the 200H, or possibly the new Berger 208) then I'd run the 185Jugg or the 185Hybrids. The 185 Jugg may just be the best bullet ever designed for a 308. If you can't get it to shoot there is something wrong, and it's not the bullet.

@moosemeat if your chamber will run the 175s it will run the 185s, and the 185 will get you to 1000 with about 4MOA less elevation than the 175s. When I started this game in '11 I was running 175SMKs. It didn't take me long to graduate to the Bergers.
 
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