Suppressors Which is easier to suppress a 9mm or a 45???
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Re: Which is easier to suppress a 9mm or a 45???
get a 45 can and run it on your 9 as well as your 45.
get a 45 can and run it on your 9 as well as your 45.
Re: Which is easier to suppress a 9mm or a 45???
.45 is easier in respect to the fact that they are slow moving to begin with @230 grain bullet( it is subsonic from the get go). 9mm : the 147 and 158 are subsonic. the 115s are sonic. the 9mm ammo is cheaper no matter if you reload or buy factory. which gun you have a prefrence for? either way both are good suppressed w/right ammo.( i prefer the 1911 in each flavor)
.45 is easier in respect to the fact that they are slow moving to begin with @230 grain bullet( it is subsonic from the get go). 9mm : the 147 and 158 are subsonic. the 115s are sonic. the 9mm ammo is cheaper no matter if you reload or buy factory. which gun you have a prefrence for? either way both are good suppressed w/right ammo.( i prefer the 1911 in each flavor)
Re: Which is easier to suppress a 9mm or a 45???
Here you go......give him a call, he is gtg and very knowledgeable.
(I personally would go with the 45 can as well....)
http://www.sdsilencer.com/index.html
Here you go......give him a call, he is gtg and very knowledgeable.
(I personally would go with the 45 can as well....)
http://www.sdsilencer.com/index.html
Re: Which is easier to suppress a 9mm or a 45???
In terms of which is "easier" to suppress, the 9mm with 147gr subsonics will be quieter overall. Although the 45 is subsonic to begin with, you have a MUCH larger hole to deal with. this makes escaping gasses harder to contain. This can be alleviated by shooting the can "wet". This will initially cool and slow the gasses down, allowing for better suppression.
With the 9mm offering AND shooting subsonic loads, you have a much smaller escape path for the gasses trying to exit the suppressor. These can be shot "dry' with excellent results (depending on the manufacturer's design). Wet they become "hollywood quiet"!
Steve
In terms of which is "easier" to suppress, the 9mm with 147gr subsonics will be quieter overall. Although the 45 is subsonic to begin with, you have a MUCH larger hole to deal with. this makes escaping gasses harder to contain. This can be alleviated by shooting the can "wet". This will initially cool and slow the gasses down, allowing for better suppression.
With the 9mm offering AND shooting subsonic loads, you have a much smaller escape path for the gasses trying to exit the suppressor. These can be shot "dry' with excellent results (depending on the manufacturer's design). Wet they become "hollywood quiet"!
Steve
Re: Which is easier to suppress a 9mm or a 45???
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Am180man</div><div class="ubbcode-body">In terms of which is "easier" to suppress, the 9mm with 147gr subsonics will be quieter overall. Although the 45 is subsonic to begin with, you have a MUCH larger hole to deal with. this makes escaping gasses harder to contain. This can be alleviated by shooting the can "wet". This will initially cool and slow the gasses down, allowing for better suppression.
With the 9mm offering AND shooting subsonic loads, you have a much smaller escape path for the gasses trying to exit the suppressor. These can be shot "dry' with excellent results (depending on the manufacturer's design). Wet they become "hollywood quiet"!
Steve </div></div>
This man knows his shit, major +1
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Am180man</div><div class="ubbcode-body">In terms of which is "easier" to suppress, the 9mm with 147gr subsonics will be quieter overall. Although the 45 is subsonic to begin with, you have a MUCH larger hole to deal with. this makes escaping gasses harder to contain. This can be alleviated by shooting the can "wet". This will initially cool and slow the gasses down, allowing for better suppression.
With the 9mm offering AND shooting subsonic loads, you have a much smaller escape path for the gasses trying to exit the suppressor. These can be shot "dry' with excellent results (depending on the manufacturer's design). Wet they become "hollywood quiet"!
Steve </div></div>
This man knows his shit, major +1
Re: Which is easier to suppress a 9mm or a 45???
Agreed,
I would add that the outcome of 9mm in a .45 can will result in poor performance. Also, a slide lock or "on ears" capable can (quiet possible on the 1911) will add a great deal to overall noise suppression.
Agreed,
I would add that the outcome of 9mm in a .45 can will result in poor performance. Also, a slide lock or "on ears" capable can (quiet possible on the 1911) will add a great deal to overall noise suppression.
Re: Which is easier to suppress a 9mm or a 45???
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Am180man</div><div class="ubbcode-body">In terms of which is "easier" to suppress, the 9mm with 147gr subsonics will be quieter overall. Although the 45 is subsonic to begin with, you have a MUCH larger hole to deal with. this makes escaping gasses harder to contain. This can be alleviated by shooting the can "wet". This will initially cool and slow the gasses down, allowing for better suppression.
With the 9mm offering AND shooting subsonic loads, you have a much smaller escape path for the gasses trying to exit the suppressor. These can be shot "dry' with excellent results (depending on the manufacturer's design). Wet they become "hollywood quiet"!
Steve </div></div>
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Am180man</div><div class="ubbcode-body">In terms of which is "easier" to suppress, the 9mm with 147gr subsonics will be quieter overall. Although the 45 is subsonic to begin with, you have a MUCH larger hole to deal with. this makes escaping gasses harder to contain. This can be alleviated by shooting the can "wet". This will initially cool and slow the gasses down, allowing for better suppression.
With the 9mm offering AND shooting subsonic loads, you have a much smaller escape path for the gasses trying to exit the suppressor. These can be shot "dry' with excellent results (depending on the manufacturer's design). Wet they become "hollywood quiet"!
Steve </div></div>
+2
Re: Which is easier to suppress a 9mm or a 45???
Gemtech Multimount, AAC Ti-Rant, SWR Trident 9. If you require a smaller diameter, there's also the Gemtech Tundra and the AAC Evolution 9. I would not buy any other 9mm silencer than something on this list.
Gemtech Multimount, AAC Ti-Rant, SWR Trident 9. If you require a smaller diameter, there's also the Gemtech Tundra and the AAC Evolution 9. I would not buy any other 9mm silencer than something on this list.
Re: Which is easier to suppress a 9mm or a 45???
For 9mm suppressors my three favorites are the SWR Trident9, the SilencerCo Osprey and the AAC TiRant9.
The Trident has a wonderful 3-lug mount if you ever plan to put the suppressor on a carbine. Sound meters only measure pressure and not tone. The Trident always loses to the TiRant on the meter but to your ear you will likely thing the Trident sounds a bit quieter because of the tone difference. The Osprey is very quiet and is an eccentric design that puts the bulk of suppressor mass below your line of sight on most handguns. The TiRant feels very light and does sound great. I am happy with its performance.
Check out these three for starters. In a pistol suppressor you want reliability of the piston assembly in addition to quiet sound performance. The three suppressors I mention are all good to go in reliability as well as sound performance.
Mark
For 9mm suppressors my three favorites are the SWR Trident9, the SilencerCo Osprey and the AAC TiRant9.
The Trident has a wonderful 3-lug mount if you ever plan to put the suppressor on a carbine. Sound meters only measure pressure and not tone. The Trident always loses to the TiRant on the meter but to your ear you will likely thing the Trident sounds a bit quieter because of the tone difference. The Osprey is very quiet and is an eccentric design that puts the bulk of suppressor mass below your line of sight on most handguns. The TiRant feels very light and does sound great. I am happy with its performance.
Check out these three for starters. In a pistol suppressor you want reliability of the piston assembly in addition to quiet sound performance. The three suppressors I mention are all good to go in reliability as well as sound performance.
Mark
Re: Which is easier to suppress a 9mm or a 45???
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Its not just pressure and frequency (tone)...it DURATION.
Abraxis, fully titanium weighing less than 4 ounces is so perfectly tuned that in requires no Neilson device.
http://www.awcsystech.com/products/suppressors/titanium-abraxas-9mm/
Jupitor's Eye is an equally excellent suppressor that can be run bone dry.
http://www.awcsystech.com/products/suppressors/jupiter-eye/
Forget what anybody including myself tells you, go and hear these cans as they shake out very fast. Quiet is quiet.
Here is a 9mm can that kicks butt either wet or dry.
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Its not just pressure and frequency (tone)...it DURATION.
Abraxis, fully titanium weighing less than 4 ounces is so perfectly tuned that in requires no Neilson device.
http://www.awcsystech.com/products/suppressors/titanium-abraxas-9mm/
Jupitor's Eye is an equally excellent suppressor that can be run bone dry.
http://www.awcsystech.com/products/suppressors/jupiter-eye/
Forget what anybody including myself tells you, go and hear these cans as they shake out very fast. Quiet is quiet.
Here is a 9mm can that kicks butt either wet or dry.
Re: Which is easier to suppress a 9mm or a 45???
I'd look at the silencerco 45 osprey. you can buy a nother piston for 9mm. 9mm out of it will be really good. 45 out of it will be really good. In terms of absolutes your looking at
9mm dry -124db
45 dry 130 db
wet they get even closer.
I'd look at the silencerco 45 osprey. you can buy a nother piston for 9mm. 9mm out of it will be really good. 45 out of it will be really good. In terms of absolutes your looking at
9mm dry -124db
45 dry 130 db
wet they get even closer.
Re: Which is easier to suppress a 9mm or a 45???
I don't want to hijack, but what about buying a .40 cal suppressor and running it on a 9mm, .40, and 10mm? Anyone ever done that? If so, pros and cons please.
I don't want to hijack, but what about buying a .40 cal suppressor and running it on a 9mm, .40, and 10mm? Anyone ever done that? If so, pros and cons please.
Re: Which is easier to suppress a 9mm or a 45???
Maybe you can get subs if you handload a .40 and 10mm but I don't believe the factory ammo exist. I looked at that awhile back and said no. Not practical for me.
Plus pistols are a bit different than rifles in that this works better on rifles. I can't explain it but from my experience it just does and doing this with pistols is crappy due to loss of performance.
To each his own though.
Maybe you can get subs if you handload a .40 and 10mm but I don't believe the factory ammo exist. I looked at that awhile back and said no. Not practical for me.
Plus pistols are a bit different than rifles in that this works better on rifles. I can't explain it but from my experience it just does and doing this with pistols is crappy due to loss of performance.
To each his own though.
Re: Which is easier to suppress a 9mm or a 45???
40 180gr would work. 10mm would have to be hand loaded.
40 180gr is always just about 990-1010 which is subsonic. Only real 40 can out there is the hems II by swr and then the silencer co osprey which would probably be yer best bet.
40 180gr would work. 10mm would have to be hand loaded.
40 180gr is always just about 990-1010 which is subsonic. Only real 40 can out there is the hems II by swr and then the silencer co osprey which would probably be yer best bet.
Re: Which is easier to suppress a 9mm or a 45???
swr trident 9 here.very modular.as said by others hollywood quiet w/ 147 or 158 and DRY.
swr trident 9 here.very modular.as said by others hollywood quiet w/ 147 or 158 and DRY.
Re: Which is easier to suppress a 9mm or a 45???
40 cal isn't a good platform for suppression. Subsonic offerings in ammo are slim as well as suppressor offerings. There are some out there, but the popularity never caught on.
Steve
40 cal isn't a good platform for suppression. Subsonic offerings in ammo are slim as well as suppressor offerings. There are some out there, but the popularity never caught on.
Steve
Re: Which is easier to suppress a 9mm or a 45???
Ah. I haven't looked into suppressing my .40 so I had no clue. I can see why, now that it's been mentioned though. I just had the thought that since 9mm and 10mm are only 1mm different, and .40 and 10mm are basically the same, a .40/10mm suppressor should work for all three platforms. But like I said, I have zero experience in that area. Thank you guys for the info!
Ah. I haven't looked into suppressing my .40 so I had no clue. I can see why, now that it's been mentioned though. I just had the thought that since 9mm and 10mm are only 1mm different, and .40 and 10mm are basically the same, a .40/10mm suppressor should work for all three platforms. But like I said, I have zero experience in that area. Thank you guys for the info!
Re: Which is easier to suppress a 9mm or a 45???
there's also the Gemtech Tundra and the AAC Evolution 9
I have both of these cans, both are very quiet with 147gr ammo.
I also have 5 cans in 45 auto. the 9mm is quieter in every case as long as you stick with the 147gr ammo. My YHM 40cal can is not as quiet as ether of the 9mm cans with 147gr ammo.
there's also the Gemtech Tundra and the AAC Evolution 9
I have both of these cans, both are very quiet with 147gr ammo.
I also have 5 cans in 45 auto. the 9mm is quieter in every case as long as you stick with the 147gr ammo. My YHM 40cal can is not as quiet as ether of the 9mm cans with 147gr ammo.
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