Which Stock and Buffer?

[james24]

I just got my Billet Saber Tactical 5.56 lower in with a Daniel Defense lpk. Im wanting to do a 20in upper so i can shoot some distance with it also. I am torn between using a Magul Moe 6pos stock or a rifle stock.
Also I believe i need the Spikes ST T2 buffer if i go with a 6 pos one? Or will it work with both? BLue spring or Stock Spring???

Ive searched for 3 days and still cant figure it out!!!!

 

[ORD]

Re: Which Stock and Buffer?

You are considering two VERY different setups in terms of stocks. With a heavier, longer barrel (like 20" and longer), I have never much been a fan of carbine/collapsible stocks (with the exception perhaps of the Magpul UBR which gives a much more solid/rigid collapsible option more suitable for precision work at longer ranges). If you want accuracy combined with longer range, I'd skip the MOE/CTR/etc. lineup of stocks and move to either a UBR or a rifle stock (whether that's a basic A2 stock or something more adjustable/heavier/etc. like the PRS).

In terms of buffers/springs...if you go for a carbine stock, you'll need a carbine buffer/spring combination. The Spike's ST-T2 is an excellent buffer that I have used extensively. Depending on what loads you'll be running, whether you'll be shooting suppressed, etc., you may want to consider something like a Wolff XP recoil spring, but it isn't necessary and it could end up causing you cycling problems (again...depending on your particular setup). As for using the carbine buffer in an A2 tube/rifle stock, there are companies that make spacers that will allow you to do that, but I strongly urge you not to go that route and to use the proper tool for the job. Thus, for the rifle/A2 stocks, you'll need a specific rifle buffer and spring.

 

[james24]

Re: Which Stock and Buffer?

Yes I'm wanting more distance to shoot then anything even though its such a small round. Just didn't know if I should upgrade the buffer to a spikes heavy or just a basic one

 

[chakup]

Re: Which Stock and Buffer?

Basic buffer should work. I'd go UBR or PRS though for stock choice.

 

[ORD]

Re: Which Stock and Buffer?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: james24</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yes I'm wanting more distance to shoot then anything even though its such a small round. Just didn't know if I should upgrade the buffer to a spikes heavy or just a basic one </div></div>

Don't underestimate the .223/5.56 round as being too "small." I've taken the .223 out to 1k and while it is far from ideal for extended ranges, it CAN be done with the proper barrel, bullet, etc. (and a decent idgit squeezing the trigger never hurt matters either).

If more of a precision build for longer ranges is what you want, I'd stick with a fixed stock, whether a basic A2, Magpul MOE Fixed stock, or a PRS with some adjustments for LOP, and the adjustable comb depending on how you plan to scope the rifle. If, because of how high you need to mount your optics or your body habitus, you need more comb height, the PRS is the cat's meow. If you don't think you'll need/want the extra comb height from the PRS, you can run a standard stock or run the PRS with the cheek riser lowered all the way.

As for heavier than standard buffers, again it comes down to you and how you want to run the rifle. If you are going to run heavy reloads or you plan on running the rifle suppressed, then I highly recommend going to a heavy buffer like those available from Clint Butler (aka - "Slash") as seen here: http://www.heavybuffers.com/products.html . Slash's AR-15 XH rifle buffer is just over twice the weight of a standard AR-15 rifle buffer (11oz vs. around 5-5.4oz), but if you are using light loads, lighter bullets, or if your rifle is undergassed in any way, then the XH buffer may cause you function issues.

 

[Blackhawk 1]

Re: Which Stock and Buffer?

ORD thanks for your information, I changed the stock on my POF (308)and needed to know what buffer and spring to change to. I'm going to go with heavybuffers.
Doug