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Why does M40A5 not have a McMillan A5 stock?

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Hi all,

I am new to snipershide.com and own a Remington 700 Police (modified with Badger mag kit + 5/19 rnd mag and Shooters Ridge bipod with pod lock). Attached is a Leupold M1 Ulta 10x scope (mildot, original Leupold mount and two-part steel base, made in the US in 1984). You can't imagine how hard it was to get this scope in Germany!
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Now I want to modify the rifle to get an as perfect as possible "copy" of the USMC M40A5.

As far as I know I have to change the following parts ...

<span style="font-weight: bold">Barrel:</span>
- cut the original barrel to 24" (from recoil lug to muzzle break, overall length 25")
(I'll leave my original Barrel until it's time for a change. Afterwards I tend to replace the old one with a Shilen barrel.)
- Surefire MB762SSAL/RE Muzzle Brake/Adapter
<span style="font-weight: bold">Stock:</span>
- McMillan A4(A5?) Stock (pillar bedded)
<span style="font-weight: bold">Trigger:</span>
- Does the USMC really use the original Remington 700 (tuned to 2.5 lbs)?
<span style="font-weight: bold">Optics:</span>
- Leupold M1 Ultra 10x with Leupold steel rings (Does it make sense to replace them with the Badger Ordnance steel rings?)
- 30 MOA DDRoss picatinny base
<span style="font-weight: bold">Misc:</span>
- DDRoss Recoil Lug
- PGW PVS 22 mount
- Badger Ordnance mag kit
- Shooters Ridge bipod with pod lock (it's a copy of the Harris so I don't see a need to replace it)
- Tactical Intervention Specialists Quick Cuff Sling (tan color)

Now the big question: Why does the USMC use the McMillan A4 stock for the M40A5 instead the McMillan A5?

Do I miss something in my list above?


Please excuse my English! I am originally from Germany and I am still learning ...

My bro in law is an US soldier but he wasn't able to answer these questions, so that's why I ask you guys.
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Thanks a lot,
Uwe
 
Re: Why does M40A5 not have a McMillanA5 stock?

Awesome! Thanks a lot!
 
Re: Why does M40A5 not have a McMillanA5 stock?

Excellent!
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In most cases Uwe is hard to pronounce correctly for the English speaking folks.

Du you know a good online shop in the US, which ship to Germany and could have the Surefire muzzle break, the D. D. Ross 30 MOA base, the D. D. Ross recoil lug and the M24 trigger in stock?
I really don't want to order all four items separately, because of the hight shipping rates.
It's impossible to get these parts in Germany.
 
Re: Why does M40A5 not have a McMillanA5 stock?

Uwe, getting anything to do with suppressors out of the US is a big "NO!".

I'd recommend that you save time and a lot of effort in trying to "do it yourself" and buy one of these - its as close as a civilian is likely to get to the real thing:

http://www.gaprecision.net/mil-spec-rifles/m40a5.html

All you then need is an FFL in the US to handle the export to Germany.
 
Re: Why does M40A5 not have a McMillanA5 stock?

OK, got it. I did contact Midway Germany. Maybe they have a possibility to get this muzzle break for me. (... since they have that in their catalog!)
It's just a muzzle break and I don't want to use a suppressor. By the way .. suppressors are not allowed for civilians in Germany. We have a very strict weapons law over here.

If I can't get this muzzle break, I need to modify my Rem 700 to M40A4. The A4 should be pretty much the same like the A5 but without the muzzle break.

I am not going to buy a complete rifle, because I already have one.
 
Re: Why does M40A5 not have a McMillanA5 stock?

Your choice Uwe...."look-a-like" vs. close as possible spec build. Always a personal choice. Good luck with it!
 
Re: Why does M40A5 not have a McMillanA5 stock?

"Look-a-like" will not work for me. For me it's only allowed to shoot a rifle which is very close to the original. (Something special with German's weapon law and the shooting organization where I am a member.)

That's why I would need to switch to M40A4 if I can't get the original used muzzle break.
 
Re: Why does M40A5 not have a McMillanA5 stock?

Did you ever try to sell a used Remington 700 in Germany? That's waste of money.
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Also, you could run into some problems if you try to import weapons as a single person from the US. As mentioned the German law is very strict and we have a department called "Beschussamt" here in Germany, which checks all weapons form outside the country.

On top to the 3950 USD comes: shipping, tax, special tax fee, fee for "Beschussamt". That sounds not like a good deal!

If you don't get the signature from the "Beschussamt" you probably lost +5000 USD.

I just want that you guys understand my decision to not import a weapon from the US. This has nothing to do with not respecting your advice! All you thoughts and comments are much appreciated!
 
Re: Why does M40A5 not have a McMillanA5 stock?

No worries Uwe, I'm in the UK (so I know about gun control and strict firearms legisdlation) and importing any firearm can be a PITA, but it is not impossible. I've done it on three separate occasions.

Having also done a few replica builds in my time, I know it can often appear to be the easier route.

I also know that sourcing parts from the US takes time, patience and often ends in frustration (ask Pete Lincoln at Roedale).

If Midway in Germany is anything like Midway in the UK, they advertise a lot of stuff that they then either charge two to three times the price in the US, or simply cannot deliver.

The GAP is a long way from being a typical Remy 700 and will always be a sought after firearm, at least amongst those who know what they are.

Whatever path you choose, good luck with your project!
 
Re: Why does M40A5 not have a McMillanA5 stock?

M40A5's still have a 24'' barrel not a 20''
 
Re: Why does M40A5 not have a McMillanA5 stock?

Thanks for your explanation. Is the DDRoss Recoil lug really used with the original M40A5 or does it just fit to the milspec? In this case I could use a diffident item which also fits to milspec. Same for the 30 MOA base. I couldn't find a store for these parts yet.
 
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