Europe has had FFP reticle design in use for quite some time, SFP reticles are more difficult to make reliable from my understanding, American shooters have always liked SFP, but now the FFP is all the rage, why now all of a sudden? Not like it's anything new.
Rifle Scopes Why so long for FFP reticles to become popular?
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Re: Why so long for FFP reticles to become popular?
American scopes companies like Leupold were oriented toward hunters. There is no particular advantage to an FFP hunting scope.
But Premier Reticles business for years was putting FFP reticles in Leupold scopes for the tactical market.
It just took awhile for American companies to catch on to the idea.
American scopes companies like Leupold were oriented toward hunters. There is no particular advantage to an FFP hunting scope.
But Premier Reticles business for years was putting FFP reticles in Leupold scopes for the tactical market.
It just took awhile for American companies to catch on to the idea.
Re: Why so long for FFP reticles to become popular?
So, if I wanted to change a to a FFP in a Leupold it could be done?
So, if I wanted to change a to a FFP in a Leupold it could be done?
Re: Why so long for FFP reticles to become popular?
Premier Reticles is no longer doing those modifications.
Leupold has a custom shop. You could ask them.
Premier Reticles is no longer doing those modifications.
Leupold has a custom shop. You could ask them.
Re: Why so long for FFP reticles to become popular?
Yes and no. You can get a new Leupold with a FFP reticle but you can't take a Leupold that is currently a SFP and convert it to FFP anymore.
Yes and no. You can get a new Leupold with a FFP reticle but you can't take a Leupold that is currently a SFP and convert it to FFP anymore.
Re: Why so long for FFP reticles to become popular?
FFP is the way to go. I have some scopes that are SFP and they work.
I feel the reason FFP scope took so long to get popular is for a long time the reticles were to thick. This is just a guess on my part.
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FFP is the way to go. I have some scopes that are SFP and they work.
I feel the reason FFP scope took so long to get popular is for a long time the reticles were to thick. This is just a guess on my part.
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Re: Why so long for FFP reticles to become popular?
Aside from European scopes like Schmidt & Bender, which were not well known to U.S. shooters, the primary source of FFP scopes for many years was Leupolds modified by Premier Reticles with their superb Gen II mildot reticle - which is still the best tactical reticle there is.
Premier did a brisk business in those, while companies like Leupold and Nightforce snoozed on the sidelines.
I had Nightforce representatives at the SHOT Show in 2004 tell me that there was no market for FFP scopes, and that's why they weren't going to offer one.
I got the same response from them in 2005, although there was a hint that they were thinking about it.
When the Marine Corps went to Schmidt & Bender, thanks a great deal to the efforts of a Sniper's Hide member whom I won't name, I think it changed a few minds about the potential size of that market.
Now more folks are on board with the concept.
If you're a paper puncher who shoots at targets which don't move, on a square range in competitions with no time constraints, or a hunter who shoots once or twice a year at a deer at short range, there's simply no justification for a FFP scope.
If you shoot in tactical competitions, or on a two-way range with targets which shoot back, you'd be making an unintelligent choice to use anything else.
FFP scopes are the overwhelming choice of military snipers around the world, especially now that even the stodgy, slow-to-change United States Marine Corps has seen the light.
Aside from European scopes like Schmidt & Bender, which were not well known to U.S. shooters, the primary source of FFP scopes for many years was Leupolds modified by Premier Reticles with their superb Gen II mildot reticle - which is still the best tactical reticle there is.
Premier did a brisk business in those, while companies like Leupold and Nightforce snoozed on the sidelines.
I had Nightforce representatives at the SHOT Show in 2004 tell me that there was no market for FFP scopes, and that's why they weren't going to offer one.
I got the same response from them in 2005, although there was a hint that they were thinking about it.
When the Marine Corps went to Schmidt & Bender, thanks a great deal to the efforts of a Sniper's Hide member whom I won't name, I think it changed a few minds about the potential size of that market.
Now more folks are on board with the concept.
If you're a paper puncher who shoots at targets which don't move, on a square range in competitions with no time constraints, or a hunter who shoots once or twice a year at a deer at short range, there's simply no justification for a FFP scope.
If you shoot in tactical competitions, or on a two-way range with targets which shoot back, you'd be making an unintelligent choice to use anything else.
FFP scopes are the overwhelming choice of military snipers around the world, especially now that even the stodgy, slow-to-change United States Marine Corps has seen the light.
Re: Why so long for FFP reticles to become popular?
Lindy,
Isn't the Navy still using NF scopes for their rifles?
Lindy,
Isn't the Navy still using NF scopes for their rifles?
Re: Why so long for FFP reticles to become popular?
Yes. And Nightforce makes a scope with an FFP reticle. Finally.
Yes. And Nightforce makes a scope with an FFP reticle. Finally.
Re: Why so long for FFP reticles to become popular?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lindy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Aside from European scopes like Schmidt & Bender, which were not well known to U.S. shooters, the primary source of FFP scopes for many years was Leupolds modified by Premier Reticles with their superb Gen II mildot reticle - which is still the best tactical reticle there is.
Premier did a brisk business in those, while companies like Leupold and Nightforce snoozed on the sidelines.
I had Nightforce representatives at the SHOT Show in 2004 tell me that there was no market for FFP scopes, and that's why they weren't going to offer one.
I got the same response from them in 2005, although there was a hint that they were thinking about it.
When the Marine Corps went to Schmidt & Bender, thanks a great deal to the efforts of a Sniper's Hide member whom I won't name, I think it changed a few minds about the potential size of that market.
Now more folks are on board with the concept.
If you're a paper puncher who shoots at targets which don't move, on a square range in competitions with no time constraints, or a hunter who shoots once or twice a year at a deer at short range, there's simply no justification for a FFP scope.
If you shoot in tactical competitions, or on a two-way range with targets which shoot back, you'd be making an unintelligent choice to use anything else.
FFP scopes are the overwhelming choice of military snipers around the world, especially now that even the stodgy, slow-to-change United States Marine Corps has seen the light.
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Understood!!!
Thanks
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lindy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Aside from European scopes like Schmidt & Bender, which were not well known to U.S. shooters, the primary source of FFP scopes for many years was Leupolds modified by Premier Reticles with their superb Gen II mildot reticle - which is still the best tactical reticle there is.
Premier did a brisk business in those, while companies like Leupold and Nightforce snoozed on the sidelines.
I had Nightforce representatives at the SHOT Show in 2004 tell me that there was no market for FFP scopes, and that's why they weren't going to offer one.
I got the same response from them in 2005, although there was a hint that they were thinking about it.
When the Marine Corps went to Schmidt & Bender, thanks a great deal to the efforts of a Sniper's Hide member whom I won't name, I think it changed a few minds about the potential size of that market.
Now more folks are on board with the concept.
If you're a paper puncher who shoots at targets which don't move, on a square range in competitions with no time constraints, or a hunter who shoots once or twice a year at a deer at short range, there's simply no justification for a FFP scope.
If you shoot in tactical competitions, or on a two-way range with targets which shoot back, you'd be making an unintelligent choice to use anything else.
FFP scopes are the overwhelming choice of military snipers around the world, especially now that even the stodgy, slow-to-change United States Marine Corps has seen the light.
</div></div>
Understood!!!
Thanks
Re: Why so long for FFP reticles to become popular?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mike</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Lindy,
Isn't the Navy still using NF scopes for their rifles? </div></div>
Yep. They are using SFP and FFP.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mike</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Lindy,
Isn't the Navy still using NF scopes for their rifles? </div></div>
Yep. They are using SFP and FFP.
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