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I bought 500 and promptly sold them. They are swaged and left with a concave open base with the lead exposed. Not that it's a bad thing but bearing surface measurements were all over the place which isnt a good thing. If your using them at 200 and in and are satisfied with 1.5 MOA or more their a good deal. Not very good Q.C. compaired to any of the major manufacurers. YMMV but I doubt it.