wideners mil-spec 175gr fmjhp .308
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Re: wideners mil-spec 175gr fmjhp .308
I think if you do a search you will find that the Wideners mil-spec are not that great of a bullet . I have never personally used them but read enough anecdotal evidence to convince me I didn't want to waste my money .
I think if you do a search you will find that the Wideners mil-spec are not that great of a bullet . I have never personally used them but read enough anecdotal evidence to convince me I didn't want to waste my money .
Re: wideners mil-spec 175gr fmjhp .308
They're good for the money, but not as consistant as others from sierra, hornady, etc.. You may want to buy a smaller amount and see how they shoot. I bought 1000 myself, and was a little disapointed. My groups opened up and they produced more flyers. I weighed and compared the variences compared to sierras, and they were a lot worse. I guess it depends on what you're expecting for discount bullets.
They're good for the money, but not as consistant as others from sierra, hornady, etc.. You may want to buy a smaller amount and see how they shoot. I bought 1000 myself, and was a little disapointed. My groups opened up and they produced more flyers. I weighed and compared the variences compared to sierras, and they were a lot worse. I guess it depends on what you're expecting for discount bullets.
Re: wideners mil-spec 175gr fmjhp .308
I bought some of their 168gr BTHP's and they sucked.
No consistency at all. I bought 500 and had to sort them into five different groups to get any kind of accuracy. I had some that would not hold neck tension at magazine length. I had to load them long to get enough tension.
If their 175's are the same, I say stay away.
I will stick to Nosler CC's.
I bought some of their 168gr BTHP's and they sucked.
No consistency at all. I bought 500 and had to sort them into five different groups to get any kind of accuracy. I had some that would not hold neck tension at magazine length. I had to load them long to get enough tension.
If their 175's are the same, I say stay away.
I will stick to Nosler CC's.
Re: wideners mil-spec 175gr fmjhp .308
All you have to remember is,"if it's too good to be true, most of the time ......." and you get what you pay for.
All you have to remember is,"if it's too good to be true, most of the time ......." and you get what you pay for.
Re: wideners mil-spec 175gr fmjhp .308
They arent bad if all you are doing is fireforming cases and not actually shooting them for groups or accuracy.
Or if you are reloading for a gasser for general blasting ammo.
They arent bad if all you are doing is fireforming cases and not actually shooting them for groups or accuracy.
Or if you are reloading for a gasser for general blasting ammo.
Re: wideners mil-spec 175gr fmjhp .308
I bought the 145 gr FMJBTs and for BULK BULLETS I considered them to do very well indeed. Although this is a SNIPER forum, I don't own a "precision rifle" as such. I lurk around here to get info so I can improve on what I DO own-plain jane AR-type gasburners.
I will try to attach a pic of a target shot with the Widener's "mil-spec" bullets. I can't figure out how to attach a pic--Let's just go with typed description.
Using a Bushmaster BAR-10 20" a2 @ 100 yds.
5 rds into a 1.180 group including one pulled flier.
The best 4 rds were .882 and the best 3 were .450.
This was using a Weaver 2-10X scope on a carry handle mt.
Mixed headstamp LC brass, 42 grains surplus 4895 from Pat's reloading, CCI milspec primers, light crimp w/Lee fact crimp die, 2.795" OAL. Nothing special at all.
They are not the specific bullets you asked about, but they show me that maybe these milspec bulk bullets don't get the credit they deserve. But I'm not trying to win any 1000yd matches either. Buy a few and have fun.
I bought the 145 gr FMJBTs and for BULK BULLETS I considered them to do very well indeed. Although this is a SNIPER forum, I don't own a "precision rifle" as such. I lurk around here to get info so I can improve on what I DO own-plain jane AR-type gasburners.
I will try to attach a pic of a target shot with the Widener's "mil-spec" bullets. I can't figure out how to attach a pic--Let's just go with typed description.
Using a Bushmaster BAR-10 20" a2 @ 100 yds.
5 rds into a 1.180 group including one pulled flier.
The best 4 rds were .882 and the best 3 were .450.
This was using a Weaver 2-10X scope on a carry handle mt.
Mixed headstamp LC brass, 42 grains surplus 4895 from Pat's reloading, CCI milspec primers, light crimp w/Lee fact crimp die, 2.795" OAL. Nothing special at all.
They are not the specific bullets you asked about, but they show me that maybe these milspec bulk bullets don't get the credit they deserve. But I'm not trying to win any 1000yd matches either. Buy a few and have fun.
Re: wideners mil-spec 175gr fmjhp .308
I shoot the bulk 147's and some of the 175's to MOA or slightly better from my 30-06.
For plinking or whomping steel to 1k they both do just dandy. I wouldn't shoot a match with them.
I shoot the bulk 147's and some of the 175's to MOA or slightly better from my 30-06.
For plinking or whomping steel to 1k they both do just dandy. I wouldn't shoot a match with them.
Re: wideners mil-spec 175gr fmjhp .308
I have gotten just over MOA in a 308 M70 factory barrel (FN PBR). If you really want accuracy these are likely not for you. Like others have said they are not bad blasting bullets.
I have gotten just over MOA in a 308 M70 factory barrel (FN PBR). If you really want accuracy these are likely not for you. Like others have said they are not bad blasting bullets.
Re: wideners mil-spec 175gr fmjhp .308
It all depends on whose Milspec they are quoting and what it called for. Might be interesting to ask them whose spec, the number and where you can get a copy.
It all depends on whose Milspec they are quoting and what it called for. Might be interesting to ask them whose spec, the number and where you can get a copy.
Re: wideners mil-spec 175gr fmjhp .308
i bought some but have not had a chance to try them out, i gave 50 to a friend and he said they were not good. I got 450 left to play with so i'm still happy.
i bought some but have not had a chance to try them out, i gave 50 to a friend and he said they were not good. I got 450 left to play with so i'm still happy.
