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wireless camera vs spotting scope

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There have been several designs here. This looks pretty high retail at $1900. Seems most have been putting these together for under half that.
 
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Here is what you need to make your own for about 450.00
Target Cam Parts List

1. Transmitter and Receiver
http://www.securitycamera2000.com/p...-Audio-Video-Sender-%2bReceiver-2000m-2W.html

2. Camera http://www.securitycamera2000.com/p...t-6%2d60mm-CCTV-Box-Camera-with-OSD-Menu.html

3. Microphone. ( If you want to hear gong hits )
http://www.securitycamera2000.com/produc...Spy-Camera.html


4. Haier, 10” Monitor.
http://www.amazon.com/Haier-HLT10-10-2-Inch-Handheld-Black/dp/B001OXKPDO

5. 12 volt, sealed battery ( 2ea.)
http://www.batterywholesale.com/battery-store/proddetail.html?prodID=2228

6. Tripod for camera.

7. Carry Case of your choosing.

You will probably have to custom make some power cords but that’s a no brainer. You can also use a digi camcorder for the camera if you can get a power supply to run the cam longer. This would save the expense of the camera and microphone.
 
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I've always wondered about this. If I ever get enough land to shoot that far I'd deffenitly look into it.
 
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Thanks, definitely great information. I'm going to buy the components in the next month. Might need some help with the power cables and even looked into a 12v solar panel. I have a decent camcorder lying around that I might hook up also.

Joe


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: F4D</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Here is what you need to make your own for about 450.00
Target Cam Parts List

1. Transmitter and Receiver
http://www.securitycamera2000.com/p...-Audio-Video-Sender-%2bReceiver-2000m-2W.html

2. Camera http://www.securitycamera2000.com/p...t-6%2d60mm-CCTV-Box-Camera-with-OSD-Menu.html

3. Microphone. ( If you want to hear gong hits )
http://www.securitycamera2000.com/produc...Spy-Camera.html


4. Haier, 10” Monitor.
http://www.amazon.com/Haier-HLT10-10-2-Inch-Handheld-Black/dp/B001OXKPDO

5. 12 volt, sealed battery ( 2ea.)
http://www.batterywholesale.com/battery-store/proddetail.html?prodID=2228

6. Tripod for camera.

7. Carry Case of your choosing.

You will probably have to custom make some power cords but that’s a no brainer. You can also use a digi camcorder for the camera if you can get a power supply to run the cam longer. This would save the expense of the camera and microphone.
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This seems like a really good idea! F4D should make up a couple of these for sale. Of course if you need a multi channel outfit the price would have to go up a bunch. I'm looking at starting at a mile out and having other targets (4 or maybe 6) on out to two miles.
 
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if you are shooting paper then you'll need a wireless cam for any distance past 500 yards. Spotting scope just can't see the holes, for me anyway at 40-60x, much past 300.
 
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FWIW - I routinely practice for F-Class comps using 18" Shoot-N-C splatter targets where I black out the lines and numbers with a fat Sharpie, leaving only the red center. I can easily spot holes in these targets with a spotting scope at 600 yd and would guess (although I haven't actually tried it) I could spot them out to 700-750 yds if the mirage wasn't too bad. The targets can be reused several times with the bullet hole cover pasty things to save some $$$.

Having said that, I have been looking at remote camera setups for some time thinking about ranges closer to 1000 yd. The setups I have found that look like they have plenty of range are these:

http://wirelessvideocameras.com/?option=...55&Itemid=8

They're a little pricey, but not really so bad when compared to other target cam systems that have 1000 yd or less as their max limit. Of course, with one of these you have to have an amateur radio license, but that shouldn't be a deal breaker.
 
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It may be easier/cheaper to use WiFi systems and IP cameras for multiple targets. I have assembled the parts for a WiFi setup for around $300, I will be using my laptop as the viewing device so the price of the monitor is not included in the budget. I like this idea as once the system/network is up and running it would be easy to add other cameras without having to upgrade the transmitter and receiver.

To get the range you can get 2.4GHz directional antennae for about $10 on Ebay and these should be more than adequate for the ranges encountered for shooting.

Do you think there is any interest in an radio system that would tell the receiver when a steel target got hit and which one got hit? I ask as I have had a hard time hearing steel get hit at range when the wind is blowing, I would shoot take my ear pro off and listen for the impact. The radio device would only tell you when the impact occurred not where on the steel it was hit. The system I have in mind could handle 100's of targets and for a few targets would be cheaper than the camera system.

Let me know your thoughts,

wade
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: gstaylorg</div><div class="ubbcode-body">FWIW - I routinely practice for F-Class comps using 18" Shoot-N-C splatter targets where I black out the lines and numbers with a fat Sharpie, leaving only the red center. I can easily spot holes in these targets with a spotting scope at 600 yd and would guess (although I haven't actually tried it) I could spot them out to 700-750 yds if the mirage wasn't too bad. The targets can be reused several times with the bullet hole cover pasty things to save some $$$.
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I think with Shoot'n'Sees I could do out to 500-600. But I know with the Dirty Bird plastic targets I could barely see what was happening at 300-400 yards with 40-60x scope. And the regular orange/white paper you get at MidwayUSA, forget it at anything past 300. Maybe it's my old eyes.

Target cams were helpful with this orange/white paper at 550 yards... esp since due to latency of compression/transmittion/decompression, you'd fire a shot, and 3 second later, it would show up on video... so you'd have plenty of time to raise your head and look up at your laptop (I used a wifi system).
 
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I built a 2.4 GHz system and use a microphone at the remote end. No problem hearing or seeing hit on the target.
 
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If a wireless camera system came out with the option of using a laptop for displaying the images would folks prefer that.

I ask because if you had a laptop the system would be cheaper and have greater capabilities, like storing and scoring targets.

How many shooters out there have laptops that they could take to the range.

wade
 
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As a laptop-only - probably not, wouldn't want to always <span style="text-decoration: underline">require</span> a laptop. As a laptop <span style="text-decoration: underline">option</span> - hell yes, very much prefer it!

E.g., I've a laptop that I can <span style="text-decoration: underline">occasionally</span> take to the range.
 
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I could reduce the cost of the system in the neighborhood of $200 if the user could use their laptop. The laptop would do the display at a bare minimum and having the laptop would allow a system with greater capabilities, storage analysis, etc.

If I marketed a system that had a display and also could would allow a user to use their laptop as a display it would be more expensive than a system with just the display. The hardest part about designing and marketing a video target observation system today is getting a price point that people can handle.

wade

wade
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wwbrown</div><div class="ubbcode-body">getting a price point that people can handle.</div></div>

Throw out a number, I bet a lot of people will bite even if its around $500. Is there any way to integrate it with an iPad?

Btw: this post is really really cool and I hope it can come to fruition either by someone here or giving it a go myself. Its getting a bit tiring shooting a 5 shot group, jumping in the truck and driving to the target, taking a picture and marking the shots with a sharpie, then getting back in the truck and driving back to the same spot unloading my gun, mat etc... and then repeating the process all overt again several times.
 
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how about using two cellphones with wideo one at target and one
at the bench ?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: F4D</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Here is what you need to make your own for about 450.00
Target Cam Parts List

1. Transmitter and Receiver
http://www.securitycamera2000.com/p...-Audio-Video-Sender-%2bReceiver-2000m-2W.html

2. Camera http://www.securitycamera2000.com/p...t-6%2d60mm-CCTV-Box-Camera-with-OSD-Menu.html

3. Microphone. ( If you want to hear gong hits )
http://www.securitycamera2000.com/produc...Spy-Camera.html


4. Haier, 10” Monitor.
http://www.amazon.com/Haier-HLT10-10-2-Inch-Handheld-Black/dp/B001OXKPDO

5. 12 volt, sealed battery ( 2ea.)
http://www.batterywholesale.com/battery-store/proddetail.html?prodID=2228

6. Tripod for camera.

7. Carry Case of your choosing.

You will probably have to custom make some power cords but that’s a no brainer. You can also use a digi camcorder for the camera if you can get a power supply to run the cam longer. This would save the expense of the camera and microphone.
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Tagging this shit.
 
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that would be cool to have around
 
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I have a customer that owns a company by the name of Simpler Solar. He makes a solar powered remote camera system.

10 Watt Solar Panel with Voltage Regulator & Side Mounted Bracket; Weather Resistant Battery Box with all Components, Pre-Mounted; Digital Transmitter, 2.4 GHz, 720 x 480, 30 Frames per Second; 100MW,(.43 amps@12vdc), Digital Receiver; 12vdc and 120vac, Omni-Directional Antenna good for 2,000 Feet (unobstructed); Optional 14.5 DBI High Gain Antenna with Mounting Bracket, ($72) will extend Range to 3,000 Feet (1,000 Yards); Camera with 8MM Lens, Weather Resistant with Mounting
Bracket and 360 Degree Horizontal and 180 degree Vertical Adjustment; Energy Saving automatic Circuit Turns Transmitter off at night and on at sunrise.

You can give him a call at 850-576-5271
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tyrarace</div><div class="ubbcode-body">how about using two cellphones with wideo one at target and one
at the bench ? </div></div>

I like this idea
 
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