Wow.

[Maggot]

Beautiful scenery scary encounter.


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12 hours ago — A Utah man managed to record his encounter with a cougar while out on a ... Viral video shows Utah hiker stalked by cougar for 6 terrifying minutes ... animal stalks and lunges at him down the mountain for a full six minutes.

 

[Sean the Nailer]

It is awesome the things that one can encounter "in nature", isn't it?

Seeing black bears, grizzly bears, bobcats, coyote's, wolves, eagles (bald and golden), falcons, and owls "do their thing" is better than any tv show.

 

[Blue Sky Country]

I bet that guy is browsing through the Uberti or Ruger 2020 catalogs right now...

 

[BytorJr]

My takeaway. See ANY wild animal's young babies, don't keep walking towards, not even a single step. Back away SLOWLY and check your six at all times. That's one pissed off mom.

 

[TexPatriot]

There's a thread on arfcom already and many are saying "thats why I carry even when jogging" or "needs more G19", etc.

If some dumbfuc were to have shot that female lion, that hero would have orphaned a brood of kittens.

She wasn't 'stalking' her prey, otherwise she would have taken the higher ground to the left and ambushed him further up the trail.

That was a warning posture of a pissed off, underweight mother cat protecting her young.

 

[BytorJr]

There's a thread on arfcom already and many are saying "thats why I carry even when jogging" or "needs more G19", etc.

If some dumbfuc were to have shot that female lion, that hero would have orphaned a brood of kittens.

She wasn't 'stalking' her prey, otherwise she would have taken the higher ground to the left and ambushed him further up the trail.

That was a warning posture of a pissed off, underweight mother cat protecting her young.

100% agreement. She was very small. The first charge I thought she was an older kitten. Likely a shot into the ground beside (5 feet or so) her would have worked - no guarantee it wouldn't have charged then, but most animals (including people) tend to want to get away from loud noise as quick as possible. The lioness did nothing wrong...working as programmed. He'd have long been dead had she been on a mission to kill. That whole charging scene is classic defense. Not that one of those may not bring an attack, but not likely. Yes, I'd have Nadler'd myself had that happened to me.

That said, he certainly didn't want to turn his back to her and run off - so it worked out ok. Hopefully Fish and Game won't go put her down.

 

[MtnCreek]

I would have started shooting when she did the bluffcharge.

 

[TexPatriot]

100% agreement. She was very small. The first charge I thought she was an older kitten. Likely a shot into the ground beside (5 feet or so) her would have worked - no guarantee it wouldn't have charged then, but most animals (including people) tend to want to get away from loud noise as quick as possible. The lioness did nothing wrong...working as programmed. He'd have long been dead had she been on a mission to kill. That whole charging scene is classic defense. Not that one of those may not bring an attack, but not likely. Yes, I'd have Nadler'd myself had that happened to me.

That said, he certainly didn't want to turn his back to her and run off - so it worked out ok. Hopefully Fish and Game won't go put her down.

Most F&G Biologist, unlike many Game Wardens, are smart enough to recognize wildlife habits and don't shoot first.

If 'outdoorsman', mountain bikers, hikers and nature lovers are going to stumble into the wilderness they need to realize they're in wildlife's home.

 

[Rthur]

There's a thread on arfcom already and many are saying "thats why I carry even when jogging" or "needs more G19", etc.

If some dumbfuc were to have shot that female lion, that hero would have orphaned a brood of kittens.

She wasn't 'stalking' her prey, otherwise she would have taken the higher ground to the left and ambushed him further up the trail.

That was a warning posture of a pissed off, underweight mother cat protecting her young.

Entirely possible.
Coming into my 10 foot circle of fuck that for an extended period of time...
Solid way to die of lead poisoning.

R

 

[TexPatriot]

I may not have shot this guy but I damn sure would have had the safety off. This bear was up to no good and was thinking about some long pork.

 

[Josh1978]

I would have shit my pants a half a dozen times. He remained incredibly calm. He didn’t turn and run. If he had he would have been lunch. That got my heart rate up just watching it.

 

[W54/XM-388]

Lots of big rocks within handy reach...

 

[Maggot]

I may not have shot this guy but I damn sure would have had the safety off. This bear was up to no good and was thinking about some long pork.

Yogi was just looking for a picnic basket.

 

[hermosabeach]

The issue with rocks is crouching down and getting pounced upon

Levels of force are good

knife- not idea
Pepper spray- not idea

but way better than not being armed

 

[jakelly]

There's a thread on arfcom already and many are saying "thats why I carry even when jogging" or "needs more G19", etc.

If some dumbfuc were to have shot that female lion, that hero would have orphaned a brood of kittens.

She wasn't 'stalking' her prey, otherwise she would have taken the higher ground to the left and ambushed him further up the trail.

That was a warning posture of a pissed off, underweight mother cat protecting her young.

I would have shot her.

She kills me, she orphans 6 kids. She maims me, she bankrupts my family. I don’t feel a responsibility to, “do my part” to maintain the natural order of things. Lol, it’s an animal...

 

[Blue Sky Country]

The issue with rocks is crouching down and getting pounced upon

Levels of force are good

knife- not idea
Pepper spray- not idea

but way better than not being armed

In order of preference when encountering a potential hungry predator in the wild.

4. Sharp rock.

3. 1000+ lumen LED tac light with strobe. Some lights like the Imalent can go up to 80,000 lumens. That and a good, strong pepper spray.

2. Knife, or hiking stick that doubles as one of those concealable ninja spears.

1. FIREARM. .357 Mag, 10mm, .44 Mag, etc...

 

[jbuck88]

I got stalked by a cougar when I was a teen. I was fishing a river and walking the trail back to my truck with fish from the day. The damn thing screamed at my brothers and I and we threw our fish down and slowly backed out. We could here it following us in the brush out of sight.

Now I don't go out without some protection. Usually a s&w 3" 686+, or a s&w model 69.

 

[MtnCreek]

I got stalked by a few cougars in my younger days. Good times.

 

[Maser]

I think I am on the side of team cougar in that video. Hiker needs to take lessons from these guys.

 

[1J04]

Ya, I'm sorry, not sorry. Litter or not, at some point, and I mean at some "early" point in that scenario, that's a dead Cat. I honestly have no idea just when the Mag Dump would begin, but I do know this, I don't roam around the boonies without a firearm, and I sure as hell am not a fan of being mauled by ANYTHING. There is not "ONE" of you badasses on here that's gonna stop that Cat once she comes and starts the party. Not ONE!

Bullshit all you want about "I can tell from it's body language" yada yada bullshit that I know what it's thinking and it just wants me gone. That Cat walked them back a long long ways, and again, I can't say when I woulda started venting it, but I do know this. It would have been pretty damn early on.

My life and safety come WAY before her and her Litter. You wanna gamble wrestling Kitty? Have at it sport. But please, wear a GoPro cuz even if I can't watch all the shenanigans, I can at least listen to the audio.

 

[Douglas-001]

Good grief. My wife showed me this video this morning. We live nowhere near any such gatos, but I could tell the cat was trying to scare something/somebody away. Dogs will use the same display/posturing. Had the cat been truly hunting, johnny handsome would have been in real trouble, and most likely would have never seen the cat until the last second. Poor thing did look a little thin. A few rounds into the ground would suffice. The downside is that every other moron will now try to go to that exact trail/spot to try and get a good video of their own for use on whatever bullshit social media platform they use. Let's hope they run into some Great White Saber Tooth Squirrel that has a hankering for their organic, all natural, no artificial ingredients, farm raised, open range trail mix. Having watched the first few seconds of his stupidity, the gato had every right to teach him a lesson. What did he think they were? He knew but moved forward. Take your medicine. I recall a few years ago how some tough guy was attacked by a mountain lion and survived by choking it to death. Well it made the news and he was some kind of national hero....blah...blah...blah... later the fish and wildlife dept went out to find the lion and discovered that the offending lion was quite young and underweight. 5 bucks says he saw this gato and approached it saying..."here kitty, kitty..." Mother nature has a saying also..."fuck around and find out"

 

[1J04]

I would have shot her.

She kills me, she orphans 6 kids. She maims me, she bankrupts my family. I don’t feel a responsibility to, “do my part” to maintain the natural order of things. Lol, it’s an animal...

This in spades! Put all the other bullshit aside. I've heard of "story this" and "story that" regarding Mountain Lions like we all have, so what and guess what. I know how I want mine to go, and like it or not, I'm gonna do everything in my power to have it come out in "MY" favor. Every fucking time.

 

[jbuck88]

On a side note I've seen 2 smaller, ~25lb, cougars in the last couple weeks. One while driving home and one while out scouting for deer. That one was lucky I fumbled loading my rifle. All i seen was a flash of brown in my scope.

 

[jakelly]

I think I am on the side of team cougar in that video. Hiker needs to take lessons from these guys.

I see your cheetah, and raise you...

 

[10ring'r]

I may not have shot this guy but I damn sure would have had the safety off. This bear was up to no good and was thinking about some long pork.

IF... I would have accidently encountered that thing, I sure wouldn't of tasted very good, I would have tasted like SHIEEET!! Mac

 

[1J04]

On a side note I've seen 2 smaller, ~25lb, cougars in the last couple weeks. One while driving home and one while out scouting for deer. That one was lucky I fumbled loading my rifle. All i seen was a flash of brown in my scope.

I've only seen 2 in my entire life, and both of them were up in Clallam Bay. Seems like every year we have a few killed around here. Since they have no Predator and you can't run them with Dogs anymore the population has exploded, just like the Bears. And people want to introduce Wolves? lol That's not gonna work out very good, collars or not.

On a side note: Still haven't contacted Lester. Have a good day up there Stud!

Oh, and when they get around 200 lbs and wanna wrestle, nah. There's a reason I opt for the Cougar Tag EVERY YEAR!

 

[earthquake]

I was reading his responses on his Instagram post about it. He says every time you saw the cat charge, was when he attempted to pick up a rock.

 

[Josh1978]

I've only seen 2 in my entire life, and both of them were up in Clallam Bay. Seems like every year we have a few killed around here. Since they have no Predator and you can't run them with Dogs anymore the population has exploded, just like the Bears. And people want to introduce Wolves? lol That's not gonna work out very good, collars or not.

On a side note: Still haven't contacted Lester. Have a good day up there Stud!

Oh, and when they get around 200 lbs and wanna wrestle, nah. There's a reason I opt for the Cougar Tag EVERY YEAR!

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That’s a big damn cat.

 

[clcustom1911]

Thats a good momma, doing what she do best: protect her cubs.

Dummy, on the other hand, saw a cub, kept approaching, cub ran away, obviously made a fear noise which caught momma's attention.

Over all 2 things:

1. He has no idea about how to interact with animals in the wild (i.e. see cubs, go the fuck the other way).

2. He's one lucky SOB. If momma really wanted to attack, it would have been in the first 15-20 seconds and would have been so quick, he wouldn't have known what hit him.

 

[1J04]

That’s a big damn cat.

Yep. I'm trying to find my pic of the other one killed last year. It's a whopper. I've seen the pics of three killed not far from where I'm sitting right now that have tipped the scales right at 200 lbs. 200! A 100 lb Cat would eat your lunch. Imagine what a 200 pounder would do? ZERO chance. ZERO!

 

[jbuck88]

Have some friends who have shot cougars that size. I haven't got one yet, but maybe one day. On a side note do deer camp in the twisp/Winthrop are every year. Last year we spotted a few timber wolves they were so big. As well as the state record cougar came off the same hill we hunted with my boys.

 

[1J04]

Have some friends who have shot cougars that size. I haven't got one yet, but maybe one day. On a side note do deer camp in the twisp/Winthrop are every year. Last year we spotted a few timber wolves they were so big. As well as the state record cougar came off the same hill we hunted with my boys.

Ya, I know some guys that hit the Colville area bout every year. Never have gone up that way, no reason to really. Everything I need is basically right here in the backyard. Just like Sekiu, but not as depressing.

 

[powdahound76]

Carry a gun in the woods. Duh.

Kittys get big around here. They like to gnaw on joggers.
Kid died in Idaho Springs from it in the 90’s.
I have a book on cats in the area called “Beast in the Garden”

The guy that choked the cat was outside Ft Collins, out for a run.

My friend got this last winter. Right near a trail she accesses on foot from her house.
I hunt the area. Seen tracks, no kittys.

For reference, lady is 5’9” tall.

Once when I was young and dumb(er) I borrowed a hunting rifle for deer because the one I ordered didnt arrive as promised.
Told it was sighted in.
Took the front leg off a deer at 75 yds (later the next day found it shooting 8” low and right)
Tracked well into the night. Up early the next AM to talk to landowner and keep tracking.
Found the spot where a momma killed it and the kittens tracks were around too.
I didnt have a kitty tag, so we didnt track it to where it dragged the deer.

 

[powdahound76]

@MtnCreek - cougar coming over for a gun and pistol lesson later this week.

Any advice on how I should “arm” myself?

 

[clcustom1911]

The reminds me of about 18 months ago. Me, my lady, a couple of the kids, and a couple friends were on a trail coming back from bungee jumping at "The Bridge to Nowhere" about 3 miles back in the San Gabriel mountains north of Azusa, CA. Beautiful scenery. Anywho, I'm leading the pack. Got my trusty G-Lock in my camelback. Hear some small rocks tumble down the hillside to our left, its a 65-70 degree incline. I look up directly above, about 35 yards up I see a small Big Horned Sheep and a larger one behind (baby and momma?) Moving and feeding on some shrubs up there.

I tell everyone to pause. I scan the hillside, and I see Big Daddy-O about 25 yards behind them. Linesr distance from me to him was about 40 yards. Beautiful animals.

He's looking at me like he's about to take my lunch money, break both my femurs, pelvis, and several ribs with those impressive horns. I put my hands up toward him and say, "hey buddy, just passing through, all good" , ask my lady to retrieve the aforementioned G-Lock and give it to me as I keep eyes on Big Daddy. I have everyone pass behind me. Big Daddy gave zero fucks about anyone but me. Understandable, as I had the same concerns about his folk and him.

Everyone passes by me, I begin to walk behind them as I keep eyes on Big Daddy as he keeps eyes me, turning and facing me as I continue walking. Once I'm 40-50 yards past, he turns away and joins his woman and kid.

Talk about a bit of a hair raising experience!

 

[TexPatriot]

IF... I would have accidently encountered that thing, I sure wouldn't of tasted very good, I would have tasted like SHIEEET!! Mac

I think it's gallows humor but that brownie is practically standing on the guy's pump shotty.

I got 'attacked' by a full grown male mountain lion once, way bigger than that scrawny mother. A truck driver in the oil fields had a pet mountain lion he raised from a kitten that rode in his cab with him. A bunch of us were over at the guy's house and he brought that lion inside.
That thing screamed the classic mountain lion scream and ran along the living room walls like he was riding in the Globe of Death. One guy hit the door running. He sat next to me and hissed in my face. I ignored him and kept drinking my my beer and it tried to gnaw on my shoulder. The owner said Hey! HEY! and it stopped. Then the lion, which was declawed, and I got in a slap fight.

Those things have some power. When it connected, it's paw felt like it was lead filled. I scored more shots on it and it quit. Basically, they're big cowards if they can't bluff you. They also sweat through their paws and the wooden floor was covered with wet tracks.

 

[Not a Clue]

The funny part to me was him talking to her. He's telling her "go get your babies". Pretty sure big cats don't speak English

 

[BytorJr]

Lots of big rocks within handy reach...

Bending down is generally deadly. Bend down and one's going to likely be dead. Notice how the second he took his eyes off her she charged. You think about it, it's bad ass how equipped for survival a wild animal is. Talk about not taking any BS and looking for the instant that instead of shooing the threat off they can just eliminate it.

 

[TheHorta]

It’s a good thing he didn’t trip and fall on that rocky path. I’m such a Bumblephuq, I’d have tripped and been mauled to death.

I got a serious chuckle out of his “I’m big and scary” comments. I think he was trying to convince himself, because the cat certainly didn’t seem impressed.

 

[The D]

Fuck. That. Noise

I’m safely ensconced in the bathroom at work taking a shit but was still having a panic attack watching that video

 

[Forgetful Coyote]

It’s a good thing he didn’t trip and fall on that rocky path. I’m such a Bumblephuq, I’d have tripped and been mauled to death.

I got a serious chuckle out of his “I’m big and scary” comments. I think he was trying to convince himself, because the cat certainly didn’t seem impressed.

Even a cat that size would’ve majorly fckd that dude up

 

[Sniperwannabee]

Lots of big rocks within handy reach...

But he had to update his instagram

 

[Sniperwannabee]

I think it's gallows humor but that brownie is practically standing on the guy's pump shotty.

I got 'attacked' by a full grown male mountain lion once, way bigger than that scrawny mother. A truck driver in the oil fields had a pet mountain lion he raised from a kitten that rode in his cab with him. A bunch of us were over at the guy's house and he brought that lion inside.
That thing screamed the classic mountain lion scream and ran along the living room walls like he was riding in the Globe of Death. One guy hit the door running. He sat next to me and hissed in my face. I ignored him and kept drinking my my beer and it tried to gnaw on my shoulder. The owner said Hey! HEY! and it stopped. Then the lion, which was declawed, and I got in a slap fight.

Those things have some power. When it connected, it's paw felt like it was lead filled. I scored more shots on it and it quit. Basically, they're big cowards if they can't bluff you. They also sweat through their paws and the wooden floor was covered with wet tracks.

Texans

 

[Marinevet1]

I may not have shot this guy but I damn sure would have had the safety off. This bear was up to no good and was thinking about some long pork.

That's Yogi........just looking for a pic nik basket..........

 

[Marinevet1]

In the whole realm of things that is a small cat........not that it wouldn't help, but a 9mm or a .38 would have taken care of it...........save the .357's and the .44's for the bigger game........

 

[308Gunner]

You can tell people that hunt in and around predators, especially those that hunt predators. She was doing what nature programmed her to do and he was a straight dumb ass that is lucky he didn’t get attacked

 

[Forgetful Coyote]

The lion in the video looks rather sick to me, they do get rabies and can get crazy, and its so little that i think it's a fairly youngish one, way too skinny, looks like a sick mouth breather unless its growling consistently, but I can't hear any growling on the video; the guy never should have been backing up like that as they find retreating to be exciting and they just naturally follow; seems like the cat ran off as soon as he stopped. Backing up make them want to follow you. Again, stand your ground. Most smart animals are carefully about a fight,and don't want to get hurt. Except the near-sighted elk bull that decided to try to f*ck me during the rut, but that's another story.

Did he promise just the tip? And more importantly, did you respond with an “ok” ?

 

[TexPatriot]

I see lions in az pretty frequently. NEVER RUN FROM ONE. A big male lives on the ranch down by the river and I can see him watching me sometimes, you'll see the filck of the tip of their tail when they lay in the sun and then turn around to hide. There is big one 200+ guessing & he's a 5-7 year old, and he rules the area, ate most all the deer, and I saw couple of eaten elk calf skeletons earlier this year, probably cat killed but could be wolves too, lots of those run thru now. He's pretty cool. We have an understanding, he doesn't kill me and I don't kill him. We have been with 40 feet of each other. He didn't run from me and I didn't/don't t run from him. He sauntered several years away from me when I walked into some willows where he was sitting in the sun, he then turned around and looked over his shoulder with a "Are we actually going to do this?" look on his face, and I said no we are not going to do this, and he just slowly walked away, damn impressive, I have never seen him run. Only animal I have ever walked up on that didn't run; which was a little disquieting. Certainly he would eat any of my dogs if I let them run loose; they'd be a fatal mistake next time I found him, but I make the dogs stick close and everyone is fine.

So if they have lived 3 or more years, I'd say they're very smart, it's a pretty tough world for them. I see the lion kittens around and they are dumb as shit; they eat the feral domesticated cats in the barn, and those get shot when the get too big, they really have no where to go, as the bigger cats will kill them when they find then so they try to hide around the structures if they can, but the big males are damn impressive.

The owner of the pet lion I described in #36 said whenever his mountain lion got out and took off down the street it made a beeline for any housecat it saw and it was over fast.

The ranch I hunt on here in Central Texas had a female with a couple of cubs. 10,000 acres with game on it can hold a female with cubs. The males OTOH are nomads and usually have a big loop, sometimes hundreds of miles long, they patrol.

 

[10ring'r]

The reminds me of about 18 months ago. Me, my lady, a couple of the kids, and a couple friends were on a trail coming back from bungee jumping at "The Bridge to Nowhere" about 3 miles back in the San Gabriel mountains north of Azusa, CA. Beautiful scenery. Anywho, I'm leading the pack. Got my trusty G-Lock in my camelback. Hear some small rocks tumble down the hillside to our left, its a 65-70 degree incline. I look up directly above, about 35 yards up I see a small Big Horned Sheep and a larger one behind (baby and momma?) Moving and feeding on some shrubs up there.

I tell everyone to pause. I scan the hillside, and I see Big Daddy-O about 25 yards behind them. Linesr distance from me to him was about 40 yards. Beautiful animals.

He's looking at me like he's about to take my lunch money, break both my femurs, pelvis, and several ribs with those impressive horns. I put my hands up toward him and say, "hey buddy, just passing through, all good" , ask my lady to retrieve the aforementioned G-Lock and give it to me as I keep eyes on Big Daddy. I have everyone pass behind me. Big Daddy gave zero fucks about anyone but me. Understandable, as I had the same concerns about his folk and him.

Everyone passes by me, I begin to walk behind them as I keep eyes on Big Daddy as he keeps eyes me, turning and facing me as I continue walking. Once I'm 40-50 yards past, he turns away and joins his woman and kid.

Talk about a bit of a hair raising experience!

Funny story for ya. I was stationed at Norton AFB, San Berdoodoo, from '84 to '86 (use to play in my truck in the Azusa river bed) and I was up in Big Bear Lake area, cruising the fire/forestry roads in my truck, long story short, slid it off an embankment, due to the snow, tried to dig it out, burnt out a power steering pump and broke a stubby axle. There I was, no gun, no knife, no sharp stick, in Cougar/Mt. lion country. So.... decided to hike out (no cell phones), grabbed my hatchet and started walking. Now mind you, it's F'n Christmas Eve, and when I finally made it to a paved road, after about a 5-6 mile hike, I'm bebop'n down a paved two-lane Hi-way, couple of cars wiz past, no wave, no honk, not even a middle finger. So... keep walking, getting dark, and wondering why no one will stop, ask me if I'm good, or, tell me to F off. Then the light goes on....Mac, you dumb ass, "you've got a biker jacket on, with back patch, plus some others, and you've got a F'n hatchet in your hand". Would you "pick me up" either??????? Mac
ETA: Stuck the hatchet in a tree, were I could remember it, and got picked-up a mile later.

 

[TexPatriot]

The lion in the video looks rather sick to me, they do get rabies and can get crazy, and its so little that i think it's a fairly youngish one, way too skinny, looks like a sick mouth breather unless its growling consistently, but I can't hear any growling on the video; the guy never should have been backing up like that as they find retreating to be exciting and they just naturally follow; seems like the cat ran off as soon as he stopped. Backing up make them want to follow you. Again, stand your ground. Most smart animals are carefully about a fight,and don't want to get hurt. Except the near-sighted elk bull that decided to try to f*ck me during the rut, but that's another story.

The lion was I'm sure a young female and was starved down, probably from nursing and doting on her young. The guy did the right thing and so did she. She drove a threat away from her young and he reacted the way she wanted, and that was for him to leave the area. She was more afraid of him than he was of her and she was running on a mother's selfless instinct to protect her young.