Doesn’t fit in an SR25 mag. That was a primary goal of the creedmoor. That it is also a really good bolt-action cartridge is a side benefit.
XM7 worries from the field.
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I’m not mil or former mil, so take this opinion for what it is worth. But; from the Delaware River, to a meadow on the Trinity river, Mt Suribachi, a spider hole in Iraq, and to the mountains and valleys of Afghanistan, modern conflict relies on some group of dirty grunts standing on a patch of dirt, carrying rifles. Regardless of what was done by the artillery or the airplanes, it ain’t yours until you have guys standing on it. For my money (and it is our money) my strong preference is that our guys be carrying the best available. I just wish we could agree on what “best” means.
And just to say that I have some skin in the game, beyond my tax dollars, my son joined in January.
And just to say that I have some skin in the game, beyond my tax dollars, my son joined in January.
Going forward you are going to see less infantry as a ratio of forces and probably more SOF if they can be scaled up. They are going to be doing those types of roles. Small, highly trained, agile teams who can operate in a EW and Drone world. They will have what they need, as they always have.
Massing infantry formations is nothing but a big juicy target. You will want smaller, dispersed units that can hide easier and attack with little/no warning.
Mobility, agility, EW defense and superior SA is how you will survive on the modern battlefield. You cant hide from satellites, C5ISR, Sensors, Drones, EW emissions, Infrared spectrum and probably some other shit we don't even know about working together.
We live in a different world. Just as the breach loader and the machine gun changed war, Sensors and AI are going to as well. Modern warfare may becomes the bloodiest and costliest warfare of all time, just due to the ease off finding, locking and hitting targets while not wasting munitions trying to get a 1:1000 hit ratio.
Massing infantry formations is nothing but a big juicy target. You will want smaller, dispersed units that can hide easier and attack with little/no warning.
Mobility, agility, EW defense and superior SA is how you will survive on the modern battlefield. You cant hide from satellites, C5ISR, Sensors, Drones, EW emissions, Infrared spectrum and probably some other shit we don't even know about working together.
We live in a different world. Just as the breach loader and the machine gun changed war, Sensors and AI are going to as well. Modern warfare may becomes the bloodiest and costliest warfare of all time, just due to the ease off finding, locking and hitting targets while not wasting munitions trying to get a 1:1000 hit ratio.
You can, but the how all depends on the part(s) of the EM spectrum that are used by sensors covering your location. SAR is the only imaging method that can penetrate clouds/smoke, (edit: MWIR/LWIR can depending on the heat variation and smoke density) and it is very difficult to analyze unless you’re trained. It also can be impossible to analyze if there are lots of moving things (like leaves in the wind). LWIR and MWIR can’t penetrate through barriers, even transparent ones. And it’s easy to stay unobserved in the non-SAR RF wavelengths. You just don’t emit, or go back to the basics and use directional antenna, transmitting extremely briefly and only with enough power to reach the other radio. Not perfect but it eliminates a lot of the DF/TDOA fixing.
Every sensor had a weakness. But it does add a lot of complexity to the world of deception and concealment.
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Very true point.
I guess my comment wasn't worded clearly because the picture I quoted I don't think came up.
I was comparing when they chose to chamber things in .30-06 and similar instead of the 6.5x55 that was also a well known caliber at the time.
(Very late 1800 / very early 1900 range).
Even around WWII they were still humping a lot of .30-06 as a primary round.
I think had something like the 6.5x55 been chosen instead of the .30-06 small arms development for the next 50 years might have gone a lot faster.
5.56 is great and all for it's intended purpose.
It's just interesting that all the cool kids have been trying now for some time to figure out how to stuff a 6.xx back into the same rifle size for "better performance".
In the end however I think at some point it won't make any difference, the first military to figure out how to go full on AI driven hands off killbots without humans in the decision loop will start dominating things short of using theater weapons and everybody else will dive in big time.
Then it's machines vs machines and then winning machines mopping up the humans who's machines lost.
(or well falling back to nukes to avoid that).
I’ve seen this movie before. After they mop up the losing side’s humans, they start going after the “winning” side’s humans too.
Or they just eat the entire biosphere.... (Horizon: Zero Dawn) obligatory "fuck Ted Faro"
Not sure if this iteration of the optic will be useful but I think the tech will continue to evolve into a more useful version. Same thing applies to the newer high pressure ammo. Those are really the two good things I think will come from this program. I want the ICAR to succeed in its contract. I was talking to someone in the ammunition development area and he was explaining that ammunition developed for the icar could see a 300fps gain over standard 6 arc ammo currently available. That's something I would be interested in.
