Re: Y 308
Really?...Better question is why not? Maybe it's just me,but in my life a .308 is as common to have for me as a 22lr.Their is better for this and that,but in general it's been tried and trued,beaten to death,and still remains consistant and relatively cheap.Plus there's heaps of data everywhere for practically every powder/bullet combos to boot.Just my .02cents.Goodshootin'
~R
Really?...Better question is why not? Maybe it's just me,but in my life a .308 is as common to have for me as a 22lr.Their is better for this and that,but in general it's been tried and trued,beaten to death,and still remains consistant and relatively cheap.Plus there's heaps of data everywhere for practically every powder/bullet combos to boot.Just my .02cents.Goodshootin'
~R
Re: Y 308
30-06 - is long action= longer pull some don't like that and shorter barel life then 308
270 - bullet selection sucks and is also long action
25-06 - same as above
308 has provin itself in battle so its good enough for civilians to own and shoot.
30-06 - is long action= longer pull some don't like that and shorter barel life then 308
270 - bullet selection sucks and is also long action
25-06 - same as above
308 has provin itself in battle so its good enough for civilians to own and shoot.
Re: Y 308
more common=more options=more knowledge=more help=more available=more money saved. There are plenty of other good options such as you stated and others like 300WM and 6.5. But for those new to LR its hard to pass up the 308.
In other perspective, you just asked why ford pickup over honda or toyota pickup.
more common=more options=more knowledge=more help=more available=more money saved. There are plenty of other good options such as you stated and others like 300WM and 6.5. But for those new to LR its hard to pass up the 308.
In other perspective, you just asked why ford pickup over honda or toyota pickup.
Re: Y 308
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: THUNDERBOLT68</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The real question is why .308 when the .260 smokes it. </div></div>
Exactly.
If they would just mass produce a match grade...FGMM .260 round for the same price as .308, I'll bet there would a ton more .260 shooters. If the .mil picked up the .260 then that would be all she wrote. .260 would be king on the commercial side in no time.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: THUNDERBOLT68</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The real question is why .308 when the .260 smokes it. </div></div>
Exactly.
If they would just mass produce a match grade...FGMM .260 round for the same price as .308, I'll bet there would a ton more .260 shooters. If the .mil picked up the .260 then that would be all she wrote. .260 would be king on the commercial side in no time.
Re: Y 308
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tango__Down</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If the .mil picked up the .260 then that would be all she wrote. .260 would be king on the commercial side in no time. </div></div>
I think this is the key. Especially here on this forum, catering to the crowd it does.
And, yes, it'd help if there was a 260 FGMM at the same price as the 308 stuff.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tango__Down</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If the .mil picked up the .260 then that would be all she wrote. .260 would be king on the commercial side in no time. </div></div>
I think this is the key. Especially here on this forum, catering to the crowd it does.
And, yes, it'd help if there was a 260 FGMM at the same price as the 308 stuff.
Re: Y 308
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: THUNDERBOLT68</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The real question is why .308 when the .260 smokes it. </div></div>
New World Record!
Saturday at the Oak Ridge (TN) IBS registered Benchrest match, John Lewis shot a spectacular 0.386" 5-shot group in Heavy Gun Class. When certified, this substantially lowers the existing record (currently held by Brady.) A 0.386" group at 600 yards is the equivalent of 0.0614 MOA. John shot the group with a wood and metal-stocked gun he built himself. It is chambered in .308 Win. John was shooting a Lapua 155gr bullet.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: THUNDERBOLT68</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The real question is why .308 when the .260 smokes it. </div></div>
New World Record!
Saturday at the Oak Ridge (TN) IBS registered Benchrest match, John Lewis shot a spectacular 0.386" 5-shot group in Heavy Gun Class. When certified, this substantially lowers the existing record (currently held by Brady.) A 0.386" group at 600 yards is the equivalent of 0.0614 MOA. John shot the group with a wood and metal-stocked gun he built himself. It is chambered in .308 Win. John was shooting a Lapua 155gr bullet.
Re: Y 308
nope,our brass,in all their wisdom would rather rebuild our current m24s into monsterous 20 pound behemths with crazy ass space stocks and chamber them in the barrel burning .300wm that will require twice the maintanace.they could have just re barreled the m24s with .260s,blow the .308 out of the water and damn near match the .300wm ballisticly and done it all in a 12 pound rifle and saved the tax payers a ton as well.
nope,our brass,in all their wisdom would rather rebuild our current m24s into monsterous 20 pound behemths with crazy ass space stocks and chamber them in the barrel burning .300wm that will require twice the maintanace.they could have just re barreled the m24s with .260s,blow the .308 out of the water and damn near match the .300wm ballisticly and done it all in a 12 pound rifle and saved the tax payers a ton as well.
Re: Y 308
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pink(MiST)</div><div class="ubbcode-body">30-06 - is long action= longer pull some don't like that and shorter barel life then 308
270 - bullet selection sucks and is also long action
25-06 - same as above
308 has provin itself in battle so its good enough for civilians to own and shoot. </div></div>
Kind of hard to be more "battle proven" than the '06. Kinda hard to argue with the results of 2 World Wars. The 308 has always been a compromise, of almost 30'06 performance, in a shorter length action. Not saying that it is not a good cartridge, but to say it is "battle proven" over the '06 is dumb
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pink(MiST)</div><div class="ubbcode-body">30-06 - is long action= longer pull some don't like that and shorter barel life then 308
270 - bullet selection sucks and is also long action
25-06 - same as above
308 has provin itself in battle so its good enough for civilians to own and shoot. </div></div>
Kind of hard to be more "battle proven" than the '06. Kinda hard to argue with the results of 2 World Wars. The 308 has always been a compromise, of almost 30'06 performance, in a shorter length action. Not saying that it is not a good cartridge, but to say it is "battle proven" over the '06 is dumb
Re: Y 308
Everyone does not "swarm" to the .308. Most new shooters do. Many shooters who are only interested in the "tactical" side of shooting do. It has a lot going for it though. It is easy to load for, tons of data, and easy on the shoulder.
That being said, many very experienced shooters, with decades of shooting experience shoot other cartridges as well, such as the 7 Rem mag, 300 Win, .260, 6mm Rem, 30-06, etc.
Just because the 30-06 or 7 mag is not the flavor of the week with those who are relatively new to long range shooting, don't think that guys are not burning powder with them.
Everyone does not "swarm" to the .308. Most new shooters do. Many shooters who are only interested in the "tactical" side of shooting do. It has a lot going for it though. It is easy to load for, tons of data, and easy on the shoulder.
That being said, many very experienced shooters, with decades of shooting experience shoot other cartridges as well, such as the 7 Rem mag, 300 Win, .260, 6mm Rem, 30-06, etc.
Just because the 30-06 or 7 mag is not the flavor of the week with those who are relatively new to long range shooting, don't think that guys are not burning powder with them.
Re: Y 308
I kinda get the same thing locally... I'm a 308 fan, but they seem fairly rare around here... the local hunters and mall ninjas seem to think they're the "sniper" round, so they see them as special... these are also the guys that have no idea what a 6.5x47 Lapua is, and stain their shorts over a 50BMG
I kinda get the same thing locally... I'm a 308 fan, but they seem fairly rare around here... the local hunters and mall ninjas seem to think they're the "sniper" round, so they see them as special... these are also the guys that have no idea what a 6.5x47 Lapua is, and stain their shorts over a 50BMG
Re: Y 308
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: coythtr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just wondering y everyone swarms on 308 cal insted of 30-06, 270,25-06, etc. </div></div>
really, is "why" too hard to spell??
308 is a great all around short action caliber: Forgiving to shoot, forgiving to load for, gets the job done at ranges that most shots and shooters shoot at, has enough energy to do the job, can be fed from stuff off the shelf anywhere, is known to run between 5000-12000 rounds per barrel accurately.
I'm sure I'm missing a bunch too.....
Will I always keep a good 308 boltgun, hell yeah!
Will I shoot one in comps if I have access to a 6.5, of hell no!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: coythtr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just wondering y everyone swarms on 308 cal insted of 30-06, 270,25-06, etc. </div></div>
really, is "why" too hard to spell??
308 is a great all around short action caliber: Forgiving to shoot, forgiving to load for, gets the job done at ranges that most shots and shooters shoot at, has enough energy to do the job, can be fed from stuff off the shelf anywhere, is known to run between 5000-12000 rounds per barrel accurately.
I'm sure I'm missing a bunch too.....
Will I always keep a good 308 boltgun, hell yeah!
Will I shoot one in comps if I have access to a 6.5, of hell no!
Re: Y 308
Before LR I dated the 30 ought, the 7x57, 257, maybe a few others I cant recall right now.
I learned LR as a skill rather than a hope on the 308. Sure like alot of men I had a few distractions like the sexy 260 and the exotic 6.5x55.
But when they opened the F-TR class restricted to 308 and 223 I came back to the one that brought me.
People can extoll the many virtues of sleek sexy sub 30 offerings and I wont argue one bit.
Others can laud the mini anti-tank rifles like the 338 and cheytacs and again whatever floats their boat.
But there just IS something about the 308, it does everything I ask and outside some gamer scenerio is more than effective on everything I wish to kill.
Couple that with a catagory to compete in that is very caliber restricted and I am a happy camper.
Before LR I dated the 30 ought, the 7x57, 257, maybe a few others I cant recall right now.
I learned LR as a skill rather than a hope on the 308. Sure like alot of men I had a few distractions like the sexy 260 and the exotic 6.5x55.
But when they opened the F-TR class restricted to 308 and 223 I came back to the one that brought me.
People can extoll the many virtues of sleek sexy sub 30 offerings and I wont argue one bit.
Others can laud the mini anti-tank rifles like the 338 and cheytacs and again whatever floats their boat.
But there just IS something about the 308, it does everything I ask and outside some gamer scenerio is more than effective on everything I wish to kill.
Couple that with a catagory to compete in that is very caliber restricted and I am a happy camper.
Re: Y 308
The .308 is a great starter round... And when you learn what you need to then you can re barrel it into a .260....
It really is about the most efficient way. The 06. and all those others can be used and you can learn a great deal about shooting, wind, etc....
Just take what you have a go learn, Then you will have the wisdom you need to understand what and why most guys go to more effective calibers for longer range shooting.
The .308 is a great starter round... And when you learn what you need to then you can re barrel it into a .260....
It really is about the most efficient way. The 06. and all those others can be used and you can learn a great deal about shooting, wind, etc....
Just take what you have a go learn, Then you will have the wisdom you need to understand what and why most guys go to more effective calibers for longer range shooting.
Re: Y 308
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: billyburl2</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pink(MiST)</div><div class="ubbcode-body">30-06 - is long action= longer pull some don't like that and shorter barel life then 308
270 - bullet selection sucks and is also long action
25-06 - same as above
308 has provin itself in battle so its good enough for civilians to own and shoot. </div></div>
Kind of hard to be more "battle proven" than the '06. Kinda hard to argue with the results of 2 World Wars. The 308 has always been a compromise, of almost 30'06 performance, in a shorter length action. Not saying that it is not a good cartridge, but to say it is "battle proven" over the '06 is dumb </div></div>
I never said in there that the 30-06 is not battle proven. I simply sad it is long action round and shorter barrel life... lets not assume what I said.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: billyburl2</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pink(MiST)</div><div class="ubbcode-body">30-06 - is long action= longer pull some don't like that and shorter barel life then 308
270 - bullet selection sucks and is also long action
25-06 - same as above
308 has provin itself in battle so its good enough for civilians to own and shoot. </div></div>
Kind of hard to be more "battle proven" than the '06. Kinda hard to argue with the results of 2 World Wars. The 308 has always been a compromise, of almost 30'06 performance, in a shorter length action. Not saying that it is not a good cartridge, but to say it is "battle proven" over the '06 is dumb </div></div>
I never said in there that the 30-06 is not battle proven. I simply sad it is long action round and shorter barrel life... lets not assume what I said.
