Re: ***Your Opinion***Does everyone need a .308???????
Is a frog's arse water tight? Of course, everyone needs a .308.
Is a frog's arse water tight? Of course, everyone needs a .308.
***Your Opinion***Does everyone need a .308???????
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Re: ***Your Opinion***Does everyone need a .308???????
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: doc_taylor77</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Is a frog's arse water tight? Of course, everyone needs a .308. </div></div>
Or as my dad always says "does a bear shit in the woods", lol. I like your version too!!!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: doc_taylor77</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Is a frog's arse water tight? Of course, everyone needs a .308. </div></div>
Or as my dad always says "does a bear shit in the woods", lol. I like your version too!!!
Re: ***Your Opinion***Does everyone need a .308???????
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Basher</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Would it be handy in a "SHTF" scenario? I'd say that's a safe bet to make, sure. But chances are, you're only going to have ready access to what you have in your personal stocks</div></div>
Exactly. Someone with some sense.
It always makes me laugh when people talk about whatever round being good for if the "shit hits the fan" because its common and they'll be able to just "get" more. If the shit actually hits the fan, what you have is what you have, there will be no gun shops and internet to buy shit from.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Basher</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Would it be handy in a "SHTF" scenario? I'd say that's a safe bet to make, sure. But chances are, you're only going to have ready access to what you have in your personal stocks</div></div>
Exactly. Someone with some sense.
It always makes me laugh when people talk about whatever round being good for if the "shit hits the fan" because its common and they'll be able to just "get" more. If the shit actually hits the fan, what you have is what you have, there will be no gun shops and internet to buy shit from.
Re: ***Your Opinion***Does everyone need a .308???????
no, not everyone should have a 308.....just the guys on MY side!
no, not everyone should have a 308.....just the guys on MY side!
Re: ***Your Opinion***Does everyone need a .308???????
I do not have one, nor do I want one.
ETA: If I want 308 performance, I will donwload the '06. For some reason though, I have yet to desire more wind drift.
I do not have one, nor do I want one.
ETA: If I want 308 performance, I will donwload the '06. For some reason though, I have yet to desire more wind drift.
Re: ***Your Opinion***Does everyone need a .308???????
Bottom line is there are far better rounds including the 243, 7-08 and 260 which all were created off the 308 parent case, but to answer the question "do you need it"...thats completely up to you.
Bottom line is there are far better rounds including the 243, 7-08 and 260 which all were created off the 308 parent case, but to answer the question "do you need it"...thats completely up to you.
Re: ***Your Opinion***Does everyone need a .308???????
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sendero_man</div><div class="ubbcode-body">my friends made me buy one... Laffin' </div></div>
and your point.......
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sendero_man</div><div class="ubbcode-body">my friends made me buy one... Laffin' </div></div>
and your point.......
Re: ***Your Opinion***Does everyone need a .308???????
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Team-Send-It!!!</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Don-n-Texas</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: usmcsniperone</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yes.....You should always have at least one firearm in the following calibers: .308, .223, .45, 9mm, 12ga. That way no matter what there is always ammo available because the Military will always have some. </div></div>
Exactly!! I think that's where to start even if the SHTF doesn't happen.
And those are the cheapest to shoot and to reload. </div></div>
i would also add if you worried about shtf situation (which i am definetly not) u should also have an ak 47 or something that fires 7.62x39 and something that shoots 7.62x54 because there are millions of rounds of those 2 in the states and the rifles are cheap as shit but ridiculously reliable. </div></div>
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Team-Send-It!!!</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Don-n-Texas</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: usmcsniperone</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yes.....You should always have at least one firearm in the following calibers: .308, .223, .45, 9mm, 12ga. That way no matter what there is always ammo available because the Military will always have some. </div></div>
Exactly!! I think that's where to start even if the SHTF doesn't happen.
And those are the cheapest to shoot and to reload. </div></div>
i would also add if you worried about shtf situation (which i am definetly not) u should also have an ak 47 or something that fires 7.62x39 and something that shoots 7.62x54 because there are millions of rounds of those 2 in the states and the rifles are cheap as shit but ridiculously reliable. </div></div>
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Re: ***Your Opinion***Does everyone need a .308???????
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KNIGHT11B4</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Oh yes. There is no doubt that everyone needs a 308. </div></div>
What do you know.......????
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KNIGHT11B4</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Oh yes. There is no doubt that everyone needs a 308. </div></div>
What do you know.......????
Re: ***Your Opinion***Does everyone need a .308???????
Why not have a 308? Easy enough to find ammo for, and cheap enough to have fun with, but also serious enough for all the mall ninjas...
Why not have a 308? Easy enough to find ammo for, and cheap enough to have fun with, but also serious enough for all the mall ninjas...
Re: ***Your Opinion***Does everyone need a .308???????
I know that i'll always have one. Very handy to have
I know that i'll always have one. Very handy to have
Re: ***Your Opinion***Does everyone need a .308???????
If I could only have one rifle it would be .308, that said, I got three of em, building a fourth
If I could only have one rifle it would be .308, that said, I got three of em, building a fourth
Re: ***Your Opinion***Does everyone need a .308???????
they are a great round to get into shooting with, very forgiving. Are there calibers that are going to prefom better, of course. it is a cheap, easy to shoot, round. But if it is going to be a SHTF scenerio, and your rifle is set to like 175gr over varget and now all you can get is 147 ball ammo or 150gr hunting rounds then what it is the same as any other store bought ammo/rifle combo. chances are good though ammo will be more available than others and would serve its purpose at shorter ranges i guess. Thinkin out loud Sorry
But i do have one and love it LOL
they are a great round to get into shooting with, very forgiving. Are there calibers that are going to prefom better, of course. it is a cheap, easy to shoot, round. But if it is going to be a SHTF scenerio, and your rifle is set to like 175gr over varget and now all you can get is 147 ball ammo or 150gr hunting rounds then what it is the same as any other store bought ammo/rifle combo. chances are good though ammo will be more available than others and would serve its purpose at shorter ranges i guess. Thinkin out loud Sorry
But i do have one and love it LOL
Re: ***Your Opinion***Does everyone need a .308???????
How about three 308's all Savages a 116 SS Weather Warrior, 2 model 12's. The 16 is in the factory stock with a Karsten rest on it shoots 1/2 inch at a 100 with Surplus M-80 ammo. The 12's are on roll your owns one is set up for Berger 150 BTHP over 43 grs. of IMR-4320 and sit .003 off the lands other is set for Berger 168 gr.BTHP over 43.5 grs. of IMR-4320 and sit .006 off the lands both rifles shoot 1/4 inch at 100 yds. if I do my part.All my Savages which there are 6 of have 4x14,50 WOTAC scopes and they work great all hold zero and are repeatable.
How about three 308's all Savages a 116 SS Weather Warrior, 2 model 12's. The 16 is in the factory stock with a Karsten rest on it shoots 1/2 inch at a 100 with Surplus M-80 ammo. The 12's are on roll your owns one is set up for Berger 150 BTHP over 43 grs. of IMR-4320 and sit .003 off the lands other is set for Berger 168 gr.BTHP over 43.5 grs. of IMR-4320 and sit .006 off the lands both rifles shoot 1/4 inch at 100 yds. if I do my part.All my Savages which there are 6 of have 4x14,50 WOTAC scopes and they work great all hold zero and are repeatable.
Re: ***Your Opinion***Does everyone need a .308???????
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GhostWriter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No, I have a .270 which out performs the .308 in just about every category across the board. So no need for .308. </div></div>
The .270 is a great hunting round with good terminal ballistics but when it comes to long range work, the .270 will not outperform the 308.
I think if you're new to reloading or you want to get into reloading, a 308 is an excellent choice. Nearly infinite component choices and very easy/forgiving to load for.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GhostWriter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No, I have a .270 which out performs the .308 in just about every category across the board. So no need for .308. </div></div>
The .270 is a great hunting round with good terminal ballistics but when it comes to long range work, the .270 will not outperform the 308.
I think if you're new to reloading or you want to get into reloading, a 308 is an excellent choice. Nearly infinite component choices and very easy/forgiving to load for.
Re: ***Your Opinion***Does everyone need a .308???????
If you don't handload, yes. If you do handload, you still need something in that class, though I think a .30-06 would do just fine (and maybe even a little better) in most circumstances.
If you don't handload, yes. If you do handload, you still need something in that class, though I think a .30-06 would do just fine (and maybe even a little better) in most circumstances.
Re: ***Your Opinion***Does everyone need a .308???????
I think every american needs a .308 and a .30 - 06. just my opinion
I think every american needs a .308 and a .30 - 06. just my opinion
Re: ***Your Opinion***Does everyone need a .308???????
Yes,Simply because You can hunt and shoot just about everything with it,and its cheap to shoot also so you can do a heck of lot of shooting.
Yes,Simply because You can hunt and shoot just about everything with it,and its cheap to shoot also so you can do a heck of lot of shooting.
Re: ***Your Opinion***Does everyone need a .308???????
308 win is a BIG YES!
110-210gr bullets, use sabots for .224=4000fps
But if it is going to be a SHTF scenerio and ammo gets hard to find you could shoot 243, 7-08 and 260 which all were created off the 308 parent case, at close range still deadly.
YES on 308 win
308 win is a BIG YES!
110-210gr bullets, use sabots for .224=4000fps
But if it is going to be a SHTF scenerio and ammo gets hard to find you could shoot 243, 7-08 and 260 which all were created off the 308 parent case, at close range still deadly.
YES on 308 win
Re: ***Your Opinion***Does everyone need a .308???????
I thought it was a mandatory to own a 308 to even be on the hide LOL
I thought it was a mandatory to own a 308 to even be on the hide LOL
Re: ***Your Opinion***Does everyone need a .308???????
Absolutely not.
Especially if you have a 260, 7-08, or 30-06.
The whole "its a military round" is an overblown plus for the 308, in my opinion. I'm not expecting a SHTF/EOTWAWKI situation where I'm scrounging M118LR to keep myself or my family alive any time soon and even *if* such an unlikely scenario happens, 5.56 will be quite a bit more common.
That said, I'm about to commence beating on my pops to get his safe queen M1A...
Absolutely not.
Especially if you have a 260, 7-08, or 30-06.
The whole "its a military round" is an overblown plus for the 308, in my opinion. I'm not expecting a SHTF/EOTWAWKI situation where I'm scrounging M118LR to keep myself or my family alive any time soon and even *if* such an unlikely scenario happens, 5.56 will be quite a bit more common.
That said, I'm about to commence beating on my pops to get his safe queen M1A...
Re: ***Your Opinion***Does everyone need a .308???????
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Don-n-Texas</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: usmcsniperone</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yes.....You should always have at least one firearm in the following calibers: .308, .223, .45, 9mm, 12ga. That way no matter what there is always ammo available because the Military will always have some. </div></div>
Exactly!! I think that's where to start even if the SHTF doesn't happen.
And those are the cheapest to shoot and to reload. </div></div>
I think 30-06 Springfield should be added to list.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Keyser Söze</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Basher</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Would it be handy in a "SHTF" scenario? I'd say that's a safe bet to make, sure. But chances are, you're only going to have ready access to what you have in your personal stocks</div></div>
Exactly. Someone with some sense.
It always makes me laugh when people talk about whatever round being good for if the "shit hits the fan" because its common and they'll be able to just "get" more. If the shit actually hits the fan, what you have is what you have, there will be no gun shops and internet to buy shit from. </div></div>
If you end up going against the US Government your not going to need very much. Ask Randy Weaver and other about that.
I'm not believing the SHTF will ever happen. We have our SHTF moments at the Voting booth.
Americans really believe we can work through any hard times and come out stronger and better than before.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Don-n-Texas</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: usmcsniperone</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yes.....You should always have at least one firearm in the following calibers: .308, .223, .45, 9mm, 12ga. That way no matter what there is always ammo available because the Military will always have some. </div></div>
Exactly!! I think that's where to start even if the SHTF doesn't happen.
And those are the cheapest to shoot and to reload. </div></div>
I think 30-06 Springfield should be added to list.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Keyser Söze</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Basher</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Would it be handy in a "SHTF" scenario? I'd say that's a safe bet to make, sure. But chances are, you're only going to have ready access to what you have in your personal stocks</div></div>
Exactly. Someone with some sense.
It always makes me laugh when people talk about whatever round being good for if the "shit hits the fan" because its common and they'll be able to just "get" more. If the shit actually hits the fan, what you have is what you have, there will be no gun shops and internet to buy shit from. </div></div>
If you end up going against the US Government your not going to need very much. Ask Randy Weaver and other about that.
I'm not believing the SHTF will ever happen. We have our SHTF moments at the Voting booth.
Americans really believe we can work through any hard times and come out stronger and better than before.
Re: ***Your Opinion***Does everyone need a .308???????
Being new to this website you can feel free to me ignore but it seems that using a round that is so common, in a SHTF scenario everyone is going to be after that ammo.I'd be willing to bet nobody's gonna grab there 7mm-08 or 243 when something goes down.
That being said my wishlist has about 15 .308 rifles so yeah
Being new to this website you can feel free to me ignore but it seems that using a round that is so common, in a SHTF scenario everyone is going to be after that ammo.I'd be willing to bet nobody's gonna grab there 7mm-08 or 243 when something goes down.
That being said my wishlist has about 15 .308 rifles so yeah
Re: ***Your Opinion***Does everyone need a .308???????
I don't think everyone needs one by any means...but I haven't ever really understood having MORE THAN 2 of any caliber.
Sometimes 2 is ok, cause you can go with lighter profiles or different lengths or twists, but more than that seems like it could be better spent on something new to master.
I don't think everyone needs one by any means...but I haven't ever really understood having MORE THAN 2 of any caliber.
Sometimes 2 is ok, cause you can go with lighter profiles or different lengths or twists, but more than that seems like it could be better spent on something new to master.
Re: ***Your Opinion***Does everyone need a .308???????
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: THEBEARRRRRRJEW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GhostWriter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No, I have a .270 which out performs the .308 in just about every category across the board. So no need for .308. </div></div>
The .270 is a great hunting round with good terminal ballistics but when it comes to long range work, the .270 will not outperform the 308.
I think if you're new to reloading or you want to get into reloading, a 308 is an excellent choice. Nearly infinite component choices and very easy/forgiving to load for. </div></div>
They have done some test and using similar setups, barrel length and all, the .270 shoots much flatter and faster than the .308. Many people argue the .308 has a heavier bullet so it can do more damage after a certain distance. But, this is not all true. The .270 has 150-165 grain bullets (which many of the .308's use 150-165 grain bullets) and I think there some 180+ grain 270's now and are moving much faster therefore have more energy when they reach the target. Just because the .270 is a long action gun therefore never used in military doesn't mean I wont out perform some of the military short action rounds.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: THEBEARRRRRRJEW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GhostWriter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No, I have a .270 which out performs the .308 in just about every category across the board. So no need for .308. </div></div>
The .270 is a great hunting round with good terminal ballistics but when it comes to long range work, the .270 will not outperform the 308.
I think if you're new to reloading or you want to get into reloading, a 308 is an excellent choice. Nearly infinite component choices and very easy/forgiving to load for. </div></div>
They have done some test and using similar setups, barrel length and all, the .270 shoots much flatter and faster than the .308. Many people argue the .308 has a heavier bullet so it can do more damage after a certain distance. But, this is not all true. The .270 has 150-165 grain bullets (which many of the .308's use 150-165 grain bullets) and I think there some 180+ grain 270's now and are moving much faster therefore have more energy when they reach the target. Just because the .270 is a long action gun therefore never used in military doesn't mean I wont out perform some of the military short action rounds.
Re: ***Your Opinion***Does everyone need a .308???????
.270 Win
The long 160 grain bullet has a SD of .298. This is comparable to the heavy 175 grain 7mm bullet, 200 grain .30 bullet, or 220 grain 8mm bullet. According to the Nosler Reloading Guide this bullet can be driven to over 2800 fps in the standard .270 Winchester or 3100 fps in the .270 Weatherby Magnum. Zowie!
.270 Win
The long 160 grain bullet has a SD of .298. This is comparable to the heavy 175 grain 7mm bullet, 200 grain .30 bullet, or 220 grain 8mm bullet. According to the Nosler Reloading Guide this bullet can be driven to over 2800 fps in the standard .270 Winchester or 3100 fps in the .270 Weatherby Magnum. Zowie!
Re: ***Your Opinion***Does everyone need a .308???????
I've got enough .308s for half the folks here, so they don't need one.
Seriously, what's not to love about a .308?
I've got enough .308s for half the folks here, so they don't need one.
Seriously, what's not to love about a .308?
Re: ***Your Opinion***Does everyone need a .308???????
No I can't see any reason at all, espsially not in a long range gun as the .308 is not a long range cartridge more than a Volvo is a racing car.
For a gun in that size there is .260, 243, 7mm etc, loads of much better rounds.
Yes I do have a few 7,62 guns, G3, L1A1, 1919A4 etc that I intend to keep as they are, but it's for sure not the cartridge I wanna keep, but the gun.
And there is a good many calibers that would be better in those guns than 7,62.
Håkan
No I can't see any reason at all, espsially not in a long range gun as the .308 is not a long range cartridge more than a Volvo is a racing car.
For a gun in that size there is .260, 243, 7mm etc, loads of much better rounds.
Yes I do have a few 7,62 guns, G3, L1A1, 1919A4 etc that I intend to keep as they are, but it's for sure not the cartridge I wanna keep, but the gun.
And there is a good many calibers that would be better in those guns than 7,62.
Håkan
Re: ***Your Opinion***Does everyone need a .308???????
My opinion? No.
I have a 30-06 though but I'd be fine with a 6,5x55 too.
My opinion? No.
I have a 30-06 though but I'd be fine with a 6,5x55 too.
Re: ***Your Opinion***Does everyone need a .308???????
I like it for a practice gun. I shoot a 6.5x47 for competition but I alos try to shoot at least once a week to the tune of about 3000 rounds a year. shooting that much out of the 6.5 I would use 1 1/2 barrels a year. With the .308 I'm not worried about burning the barrel out so I can work on fundamentals and still shoot long range with it.
The .308 is another tool for the tool box, a familiar well used and loved tool.
I like it for a practice gun. I shoot a 6.5x47 for competition but I alos try to shoot at least once a week to the tune of about 3000 rounds a year. shooting that much out of the 6.5 I would use 1 1/2 barrels a year. With the .308 I'm not worried about burning the barrel out so I can work on fundamentals and still shoot long range with it.
The .308 is another tool for the tool box, a familiar well used and loved tool.
