Rifle Scopes  Zero Compromise 420......best all do all optic on market??

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Agreed my 7-35 is super picky past like 27x. I agree the high mag is part of it but at 25x it's still noticeably tighter than say a schmidt or gen 2 razor. Was just wondering as I find it to be a pretty important quality for a PRS scope with my style of shooting. The 5-27 seemed to have a decent enough eyebox from the time I've spent with it so that's good to hear the 4-20 is similar.
I am an enormous fan of the 7-35, but damn good glass is addictive. I want a ZCO too.
 
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Nice quickly review bud, really good to hear about the turrets. I to would love to know about the parallax comparison between his big brother as well as the K318. The Schmidt 5-20 is not as good as the K318 although I wouldn’t call either finicky. How was the reticle on 4x? I know you cant use the stadia lines but is it usable as a plex type reticle for hunting applications?
 

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    Nice quickly review bud, really good to hear about the turrets. I to would love to know about the parallax comparison between his big brother as well as the K318. The Schmidt 5-20 is not as good as the K318 although I wouldn’t call either finicky. How was the reticle on 4x? I know you cant use the stadia lines but is it usable as a plex type reticle for hunting applications?

    I didn’t mess with it much on 4x as I only had it for a day.

    But I can use the stadia on my 527 at 5x(not sure why I would need to though).

    Zcomp recommends you adjust the diopter with the magnification at the *lowest* setting instead of the traditional highest.

    This really gives you a crisp reticle throughout the entire magnification.
     

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    Dthomas3523,

    Thank you for the summary! Your review along with other's insight has convinced me to give the ZC 420 a try on a Vudoo v22.

    Now all I have to do is wait on a Z420 to become available and my Vudoo v22 to finish up.

    Thoughts on mounting solutions?
     

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    Dthomas3523,

    Thank you for the summary! Your review along with other's insight has convinced me to give the ZC 420 a try on a Vudoo v22.

    Now all I have to do is wait on a Z420 to become available and my Vudoo v22 to finish up.

    Thoughts on mounting solutions?

    Spuhr or ARC

    Also, if you’re ready to purchase now, I may know where there’s a 420 available.
     

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    Is there a dealer with one in stock? I am on a wait list but not sure when it will be available....
     
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    So, I’ve spent most of today finger banging another members 420 mpct2 most of the day. (Don’t look at it with a black light)

    Gonna gloss over some of this as the design is extemely close to the 527.

    Glass - alpha glass. Nuff said. It’s awesome. Today was bright sunlight. So I can’t tell you how it holds up to the 56mm of the 527 in low light. I’m sure it’s fine

    Size - there are pics on another thread next to a k318i. It does look a bit more forgiving in the mounting room compared to a 318i. But I don’t have one here to compare.

    Of course it’s a super short and it’s definitely short

    Weight - not a brick, but definitely not an ultra light

    Eyebox - as good or better than the 527. Seems to be a really forgiving eye box (of course it could just seem badass because it won’t go past 20x)

    Turrets - holy shit. They got it right big time. Zcomp has been refining the turret feel since inception. They have absolutely gotten it right. As good or better than the windage turrets that have been getting good feedback.

    The lock slides up and down with the perfect amount of tension.

    It’s a sample size of one, but if this is indicative of where zcomp is with the current turret feel on all scopes........fucking stop now. You nailed it.



    Summary:

    This optic can do it all. Has 4x (no tunneling that I saw) for hunting. And 20x that is plenty for reaching out to 1k+.

    It’s short though that it can be used in short barreled bullpup rifles without being too close to the muzzle blast.

    It’s also short enough to look good in a gas gun or be short enough for NVG attachments when you have limited rail space in front.

    And it’s a tank with the 36mm tube.


    There’s two ways to look at this:

    Why buy a 420 for only $100 less than a 527. You only give up 1x on low end and you gain 7x.

    Why spend the extra $100 for the 527 just to get 7x when the 420 does everyone else in a shorter package?

    The answer depends on your intended use and IMO, overall budget.

    Can only afford a single Alpha scope and you might want it to pull double or triple duty on a gas gun, bolt gun, and 22?

    Buy a 420


    Only going on a bolt or precision gas gun and have zero need for the short optic??

    Go 527.

    Just like it’s big brother, it’s defintely worth the extra $6-900 more than the equivalent kahles. No questioning that it’s better.

    It’s shorter than the Schmidt ultra short, has better ergonomics, and better reticle (personal opinion). So I would choose the zcomp over the Schmidt as well.



    Bottom line:

    This is a compact option that punches like a full size.


    My advice, buy a 527 and a 420.


    Bumping this as more people would like more information on the ZC420's lately and they are a pretty bad ass ultra compact scope :)
    We have ZC420's in stock for those looking for them.
     
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    Bumping this as more people would like more information on the ZC420's lately and they are a pretty bad ass ultra compact scope :)
    We have ZC420's in stock for those looking for them.

    I keep trying to find a reason to get another 420. But the 527 works for me.
     
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    Here's some from our Customer's thread after a quick scan... *Edit the pics were not coming in then I quoted with the post. So I'll try and just post the pics:
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    FYI, I believe @CSTactical and mile high have ZCO on the shelf. *If* you are in a position with all this covid stuff to afford one, it’s a really good time to get one without a wait.

    You’ll also be supporting small business including ZCO that might be hurting if this stuff continues.
     

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    The ZC420 is so good that @lowlight deliberately had it on his rifle for the cover of his new book according to the podcast last week:


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    FYI, I believe @CSTactical and mile high have ZCO on the shelf. *If* you are in a position with all this covid stuff to afford one, it’s a really good time to get one without a wait.

    You’ll also be supporting small business including ZCO that might be hurting if this stuff continues.

    If my S&P shorts turn out how I think they will in the next month or two, then I might just be able to get one....
     

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    If my S&P shorts turn out how I think they will in the next month or two, then I might just be able to get one....

    Not knowing your contracts, I'll still take a wild guess you should win that bet, and buy a few ZCOs...#S&P_Shitting_the_bed_so_more_scopes!
     
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