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Optimum barrel time: great theory or bunk?

Just watched the Chris Long episode w/Eric Cortina, Believe the Target. From the horse’s mouth:

“Ok I’ll just say flat out OBT is a mechanical theory with some empirical data based ona software model that you can’t control. To me, it just gives you a starting point. It gives you a frame of reference to say maybe somewhere in here, this is about where I should start looking.”

Anyone trying to take it a step further and use OBT as a load development method or shortcut is just pissin’ in the wind.

I Spy New Baby Razor G3 4-24

It wasn't just liberty. EO and expert voice would run 50&55% off g3 razors once or twice a year plus Scott. If you wanted one cheap just needed to wait a few months


This why I think they gained the market share they did. Scott set the market and other companies had to drop their prices to move units. Yes, there was a time where they were selling for $1800ish. I bought several. Imo they are a great $2k scope, but it's just another $3k scope. Meaning it doesnt stand out or offer anything special.

I Spy New Baby Razor G3 4-24

Man maybe I was getting took. I don't remember him advertising that low a price. It has been like 4-5 years now. How time flies. That's a hell of a scope for $1900.

I still have a receipt right here from Scott for 2 at $1900/ea. Granted that was from the "implosion sale" and I never got them from Scott, but Vortex made good on it... (Thanks again Shamus and the guys at Vortex for that!) I know about a year before that Scott had them for $1750 or 1800... and people actually received those, lol

You can still get a G3 6-36 for $2100 with a 30% off PRS certificate, and I believe that's currently the best deal going after Vortex significantly raised their MSRP a couple years ago which really impacted the le/mil/vet/first responder prices since those discounts are a percentage back of MSRP. Before they raised the MSRP, the best prices on Vortex was typically using the le/mil/vet discount during the extra 10% off periods around veteran's day or July 4th and a couple other times during the year.

The PRS certs are 30% back of street price, so the increased MSRP didn't affect them.

Still considering trying one of these scopes once they're available, but also want to try a March 5-42... Decisions, decisions... Who am I fooling, I'll end up with both, lol

The AR15 Picture Thread

Dang I like that a lot. Very nice dude. IMO would fit in this thread quite well, check it out I think you’ll like a lot of the builds here:


ETA: 🤦‍♂️ sorry.. just saw your username and realized you’ve posted in that thread several times lol..

FN SCAR IS DEAD; LONG LIVE THE SCAR! US and Belgium Production is over.

I like the SCAR 20, it’s a helluva rifle(tho far outside my price range). FN’s chrome lined CHF barrels are top notch and more accurate than any CHF barrels out there aside from maybe Sako and HK. Daniel Defense makes some outstanding CHF barrels as well so don’t sleep on them, they’re extremely consistent good shooters. Have heard good things about Geissele barrels as well..
FN should come out with a large frame AR at a competitive price. Hell, they could even do like PSA, and make a M110/Mk 11 clone, and market it in their military collector line..
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Badlands "Shell Shock" 5.56 - snake oil?

Well I already get 2900 with the 77tmk with Starline 556 brass and N540 out a of 20in tube. Defiance anTI action. No pressures. Was hoping to get at least 3050 with the

The bolt gun will do better with the slower N540. It will probably get you plenty of speed. I am attempting to get load that works well in 14.5,16 and 20” AR’s. I think Tac or aa2520 will be best answer for my needs. 2900 plus for 20” and stretch the 14.5 another 100 yards

Run-N-Gun [Centerfire Biathlon] kit - What do you run?

Run and Gun DMR was fun. Weather wasn’t an issue, maybe a low 80s for the late runners.

Match was well laid out and flowed well. ROs had their stage briefs locked in tight and two guys in glass when we were shooting any kind of distance or obscured targets. Props were set up very well. Overall very well put together.

The challenge was finding the targets. No berms and some painted (likely all but they got beat up over the day) made finding the targets in a sea of weeds and trees challenging. Combine this with 90-120 second or times and it was challenging.

I took a chance running the 6 ARC and it bit me. (Was not needed either) Even after the testing good last week I had bullets slipping loose and I had to mortar the last round out every stage. Four stages I needed to put together a cleaning rod and punch the bullet out of the lands. It cost me a lot of time. Maybe as much as 15 minutes clearing the rifle and getting packed back up to run.

That, and not being ready to run hills, was totally on me. I could have and should have done much better. Not sure I could have improved on my shooting much , but I could have had a solid load/rifle and a better VO2 Max.
Valuable lessons.
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