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No winter tires + No driving skill + No emergency preparation =

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    You actually think that the majority of stupid people would plan for ice and snow, hell most of them would be dead in a week if the grocery stores shut down. My wife has a kit that goes in the car in October and doesn’t come out until after Easter. We live in west Texas, the majority of the time it’s ice here but every now and then we will get snow.
     
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    LOL, this doesn't surprise me at all. I lived in the area years ago, and a couple of inches of snow is enough to create chaos. And I lived their before the advent of smart phones and idiot owners.
     
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    308pirate said:
    Northern VA in winter
    www.foxnews.com

    Virginia I-95 winter storm disaster leaves hundreds stranded: ‘This is unprecedented’

    The Virginia Department of Transportation is warning drivers to stay away from Interstate 95 Tuesday morning so crews can free up hundreds of drivers who remain stranded or in slow-moving traffic in temperatures well-below freezing, in what officials are describing as an “unprecedented” event.
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    I believe that the most of the backup was caused by broken down tractor trailer trucks per VA reporting and getting to them and getting them out was difficult.

    Of course, for a bit longer they still have that simpering fagot Dem governor Northrop until Jan 15th.

    You can always count on the Dems to fuck up the practical aspects of governing all the while agonizing over ever damn word and writhing in guilt over their entitled white privilege.

    Northrop is a fucking tool and VA voters have shown the Dems the door.
     
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    I believe that the most of the backup was caused by broken down tractor trailer trucks per VA reporting and getting to them and getting them out was difficult.
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    While I'm sure that had a lot to do with it, when you have shit for tires and shit for driving skill you end up sitting behind other cars paralyzed with fear.

    If you have the gear and the skill, the car can be capable of much more and snow that paralyzes others might not stop you.
     
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    And just for reference, probably the majority of those vehicles were from up North, not from VA. Was on that road the night before, you couldn't hardly find a VA plate on a car. NJ, NY, MA, CT, etc. You'd think all those Yankee's would have been prepared, right?

    Super happy to see one of our Senators stuck in it for 19 hours. Couldn't happen to a more fitting person. Can't wait to throw him out of office next election, along with all the other D's that about about to lose their jobs from the last election.
     
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    308Gunner said:
    You actually think that the majority of stupid people would plan for ice and snow, hell most of them would be dead in a week if the grocery stores shut down. My wife has a kit that goes in the car in October and doesn’t come out until after Easter. We live in west Texas, the majority of the time it’s ice here but every now and then we will get snow.
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    A couple from Louisa VA was interviewed in one of the articles I read. They said that they didn't even have salt in the house because "it was 70 degrees yesterday....."

    It's late-fucking-December............get your shit together.
     
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    308pirate said:
    While I'm sure that had a lot to do with it, when you have shit for tires and shit for driving skill you end up sitting behind other cars paralyzed with fear.

    If you have the gear and the skill, the car can be capable of much more and snow that paralyzes others might not stop you.
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    Aaaand, we have to remember where this is...Fredricksburg just a bit north of Richmond.

    I grew up in Pittsburgh and EVERYBODY there knew what to do in winter. Snow tires and if needed chains and EVERY time it snowed you would still see the dad's putting those chains on if needed and going to work. Nobody thought anything of it.

    Here in Maryland...and certainly points south and with southerners heading north on I-95....well, there are a lot of folks who hyperventilate and panic at the sight of the first snow flake and don't know what to do. Matter of fact, many panic and drive with their head up their ass just from a bit of rain.

    Cheers
     
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    308pirate said:
    Northern VA in winter
    www.foxnews.com

    Virginia I-95 winter storm disaster leaves hundreds stranded: ‘This is unprecedented’

    The Virginia Department of Transportation is warning drivers to stay away from Interstate 95 Tuesday morning so crews can free up hundreds of drivers who remain stranded or in slow-moving traffic in temperatures well-below freezing, in what officials are describing as an “unprecedented” event.
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    is this in the northern mostly dem lib area because if so, don't care! lol

    seriously though, you are spot on. I keep a blanket, water, food bars etc in my truck. we'd watch a movie or two and relax
     
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    18 wheelers block the road. Chains and you could go around that in the median? 4 wheel drive and you could push vehicles out of your way?
    Stuck a couple miles from an exit? Within hiking range to a Holiday Inn Express.
    Republicans were smart enough to not head out in bad weather.
    This started during the middle of the day. Why couldn't they have cleaned the wrecks, the snow, and towed broken down vehicles before nightfall?

    I'm in Louisiana. We carry water, Poptarts :), Blankets, extra clothes during the winter here.
    Why? Because all the Democrats.
    15 hours stuck in traffic and I could starve to death.
     
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    Why couldn't they have cleaned the wrecks, the snow, and towed broken down vehicles before nightfall?
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    Baron23 said:
    Of course, for a bit longer they still have that simpering fagot Dem governor Northrop until Jan 15th.

    You can always count on the Dems to fuck up the practical aspects of governing all the while agonizing over ever damn word and writhing in guilt over their entitled white privilege.
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    IMO, of course! haha
     
    The title pretty much sums up the drivers here in southern wyoming. So they have to close the roads all the freakin time. Conversely my truck is stocked for winter warfare, but I’m held to the standard of a these nitwits.
     
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    Saw a quote: "CBS4 News in Miami's Jim DeFede is one of the motorists stuck in the mess. He said, 'somebody better do something because there are cars and families just trapped here,' adding that he hasn't seen a state trooper nor tow truck in hours."

    Yes, "somebody better do something." Can't take your individual fate into your own fucking hands. Anyway, where's this dolt been, asking about state troopers and such...hasn't he heard? We need to defund that shit! Maybe the new army of enlightened social workers will help out...keep holding your breath, buddy.
     
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    Down here big huge traffic jams have happened where folks were stuck in their cars on the highway for days at a time in the ice.
    Blame commuters all you want, BUT it was the TRUCK DRIVERS that caused the mess.

    Stupid 18 wheeler drivers didn't want to pull over and wait the storm out, but try to just go through it and then of course their stupid buddies try to do the typical take 10 miles to overtake the other truck B.S. at the same time and get stuck on the same ice covered hill and then nobody is going anywhere until somebody can get something big enough in to pull the stupid truck drivers out.

    They really should have charged the trucking companies for all the trouble they caused each and every person on the road that was stuck.
    That would have sent the message to the stupid truck drivers to pull over and wait things out.
     
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    It’s embarrassing.

    New England is laughing its ass off.

    I’ve lived in Northern Virginia (FFX County) since 1971 when I came here as a teenager and no one has a clue what to do if/when it snows.

    Anything over 5 or six inches is enough to shut the entire DC metro area down for days.
    They’ve never been able to get their shit together.

    95 sucks, and it always has, along with 495, 395 and 295.

    As long as I have lived here, 95 has always been under construction.

    The chief export of Northern Virginia is traffic, no shit.

    Here’s a blast from the SH past with Northern Virginia snow. Almost all of the pictures and some of the members are gone:

    www.snipershide.com

    Snowpocalypse Now

    I'm sick of snow- we're due to get 12-20 inches today (or 70 feet, depending who you're listening to). We got 6 inches last Saturday and 4 inches three days ago. Since when do I live in Albany? I'd move to Florida but I hear there's a stray dog problem there.
    www.snipershide.com www.snipershide.com
     
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    There are roads that one should avoid. Particularly after getting the weather report.
     
    When I was stationed in DC in 2010-2012 I just stayed on base when it snowed. Not a problem with weather, a problem with people for sure. What a damn mess.

    I went to high school in central VA and I remember missing days of school at a time on the FORECAST of 1/2" of snow...

    Even now in central NE I get bugged with how people (fail to) handle it. 4x4 trucks doing 35mph down a straight wide open highway with a line of cars 2 miles long behind them and too fucking stubborn to pull off and let everyone get on with life.
     
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    Max said:
    The title pretty much sums up the drivers here in southern wyoming. So they have to close the roads all the freakin time. Conversely my truck is stocked for winter warfare, but I’m held to the standard of a these nitwits.
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    How 'bout that wind last week? LOL

    I almost got stuck in Laramie for an extra day, ended up having to go up 34 to go south on 25 to get away. 2 turned over semis and 3 or 4 lost trailer (1 and 2 axle) on 25... Had to stop and help a guy wrangle a mattress that blew out of his truck bed in 40-50mph winds :D

    Nebraska sucks.
     
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    My sister and her husband got stuck in that mess. She has a 4wd pickup, and knows how to drive in snow...took her 13 hours to get from Norfolk Va to her house north east of Philly, should have been a 5 hour trip. They normally take the Bay Bridge/Tunnel, but it was shut down. A lot of the side roads were closed because of trees falling across them, which put even more people on I-95.
     
    VSP968 said:
    95 sucks, and it always has, along with 495, 395 and 295.

    As long as I have lived here, 95 has always been under construction.

    The chief export of Northern Virginia is traffic, no shit.
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    They've been working on 95 since at least the 1950's from what I'm told by older family members.

    Things changed a good 20 years ago. The mission of the Police and VDOT used to be to clear the road as quickly as possible. Today, the Police won't even consider traffic issues. They pull up at the wreck, flip their lights on, toss out the flares, and get back in the car and wait for the tow-trucks. There is zero sense of urgency to open the road. It didn't used to be like that.

    They need to create a Road Warrior type vehicle to clear anything out of the road. Wreck? No problem. Snap photos of the scene, push the shit out of the road and let it all be handled on the side of the road and in court.
     
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    I solo hunted the North Slope of Alaska in the winter for four days (the Atigun pass was cool with a small caribou herd that was at its base). I was prepared and had enough supplies to last me a week and a half or two if I stretched it a little bit.

    I have pulled people out of ditches in the winter when I was living in Alaska that had nothing shorts, flip flops and a t-shirt on and obviously hadn't expected to drift off the road into a ditch at -35f. Sometimes I think removing the warning labels would be really beneficial to the genepool.
     
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    Ledzep said:
    How 'bout that wind last week? LOL

    I almost got stuck in Laramie for an extra day, ended up having to go up 34 to go south on 25 to get away. 2 turned over semis and 3 or 4 lost trailer (1 and 2 axle) on 25... Had to stop and help a guy wrangle a mattress that blew out of his truck bed in 40-50mph winds :D

    Nebraska sucks.
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    Yea the wind can be a problem but it is only an aggravating factor. All the chicken littles here “but the wind, but the wind!” Wyoming is the “Can’t do State” …..Yea if your roads are a sheet of unmitigated ice and you have improper equipment the wind is going to blow you off the road. It’s what a Mainer calls Darwinism…..

    They issue warnings and light load restrictions but they get ignored. So they close the roads, for everyone. They need stiffer fines and penalties for inadequate equipment and ignoring light load restrictions.

    Being from Maine we learned one immutable FACT. SLOW DOWN. For some reason when it snows here in Laramie, folks drive faster.

    So to recap: inadequate equipment, light loads during high winds, and people driving too fast for conditions. Yet its the wind that is the problem says the “Can’t do State”……🙄
     
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    "CBS4 News in Miami's Jim DeFede is one of the motorists stuck in the mess. He said, 'somebody better do something because there are cars and families just trapped here,
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    Cucks like him will be food when shit gets going for real
     
    Cowpokey said:
    My sister and her husband got stuck in that mess. She has a 4wd pickup, and knows how to drive in snow...took her 13 hours to get from Norfolk Va to her house north east of Philly, should have been a 5 hour trip. They normally take the Bay Bridge/Tunnel, but it was shut down. A lot of the side roads were closed because of trees falling across them, which put even more people on I-95.
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    Note to self, throw a fucking chainsaw in the trunk after December 15.
     
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    Not a Clue said:
    They've been working on 95 since at least the 1950's from what I'm told by older family members.

    Things changed a good 20 years ago. The mission of the Police and VDOT used to be to clear the road as quickly as possible. Today, the Police won't even consider traffic issues. They pull up at the wreck, flip their lights on, toss out the flares, and get back in the car and wait for the tow-trucks. There is zero sense of urgency to open the road. It didn't used to be like that.

    They need to create a Road Warrior type vehicle to clear anything out of the road. Wreck? No problem. Snap photos of the scene, push the shit out of the road and let it all be handled on the side of the road and in court.
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    This is true. When I lived in the area 30 years ago, I avoided I-95 at all costs. Traffic at all hours, perpetual road construction, and the VA State Police who used Gestapo like tactics so they could stop people driving 5 mph over the speed limit because the state needed the money.

    Just saw a story from a guy that was stuck in this mess overnight. Said the highway signs leading to the area were used to remind people to "mask up and save lives" instead of warning people of the upcoming road hazard. The level of retardation from these communist/democrat states never ceases to amaze me.
     
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    Hopefully I-95 is cleared up by the morning, "the boy" (son in law) has to get back to MCAS New River, NC tomorrow morning. He's a southern boy, driving a 392 Charger...I expected him to be a better redneck, but he's half Korean...just like my daughters, but at least they drive Jeep Wranglers.
     
    4wd is a great tool to help get you out of a bad situation. Unfortunately, most use it to move their vehicle further from assistance…
     
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    I used to ride around with a tow strap to help people out of small situations where I could help. Most people actually said thanks or even helped in some way.

    These days they DGAF if you help them....they are more often willing to wait for the tow truck or VA Roadside Assistance trucks. I just ride by.

    Collectively I95 North of Richmond is a goat fuck anyway.
     
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    HeavyAssault said:
    I used to ride around with a tow strap to help people out of small situations where I could help
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    I just ask who they voted for before I do anything

    The wrong answer has me driving away with a smile
     
    Not a Clue said:
    And just for reference, probably the majority of those vehicles were from up North, not from VA. Was on that road the night before, you couldn't hardly find a VA plate on a car. NJ, NY, MA, CT, etc. You'd think all those Yankee's would have been prepared, right?

    Super happy to see one of our Senators stuck in it for 19 hours. Couldn't happen to a more fitting person. Can't wait to throw him out of office next election, along with all the other D's that about about to lose their jobs from the last election.
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    The senator survived wearing his Hillary emergency tampon after pulling out his fair weather tampon.
     
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    Oh boy...............that's not gonna end well
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    He was driving an SRT "built" Neon, 650hp at the wheels, without the nitros...stupid fast little car, the torque steer was horrible. He used to spank Z06 Corvettes, "fast" Mustangs and even a Lambo drag racing. Had a full cage, racing seats and 5-point harnesses in the passenger compartment too, so I wasn't too concerned with him killing himself. Ended up selling it to get the 392...now he wishes he would have kept it, the Charger "is too slow".
     
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    The snow just compounded the daily cluster fuck. At any given time someone will do something stupid and traffic will stop for a long time. The closer to DC the longer the tie up.
     
    I was at NAS Millington Tenn. in 1982, it snowed about 1 1/2"............not a snow plow in the city of Memphis...........shut the entire city down for almost 3 days...........no one that grew up in the south knows anything about driving in snow or ice.........
     
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    VSP968 said:
    It’s embarrassing.

    New England is laughing its ass off.

    I’ve lived in Northern Virginia (FFX County) since 1971 when I came here as a teenager and no one has a clue what to do if/when it snows.

    Anything over 5 or six inches is enough to shut the entire DC metro area down for days.
    They’ve never been able to get their shit together.

    95 sucks, and it always has, along with 495, 395 and 295.

    As long as I have lived here, 95 has always been under construction.

    The chief export of Northern Virginia is traffic, no shit.

    Here’s a blast from the SH past with Northern Virginia snow. Almost all of the pictures and some of the members are gone:

    www.snipershide.com

    Snowpocalypse Now

    I'm sick of snow- we're due to get 12-20 inches today (or 70 feet, depending who you're listening to). We got 6 inches last Saturday and 4 inches three days ago. Since when do I live in Albany? I'd move to Florida but I hear there's a stray dog problem there.
    www.snipershide.com www.snipershide.com
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    That was the best snowstorm we've had in the last 20 years.
     
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    supercorndogs said:
    Colorado has become just as bad with the influx of CA and people from south of the border.
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    Took me 16 hrs once,,from
    Georgetown,,to Glenwood Springs.
    Early snow,,before truckerd were to have chains.
    Early/ later part of Oct. My Powerstroke,,just wanted to go go.
    Evan A Basin/Loveland pass was closed.
    Think it was 18" that day.
    Thing was by time I actually got to Vail pass.
    No traffic. Usually took me 3 1/2 hrs from Elizabeth to Glenwood Springs
     
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    Being a truck driver living a few miles south of Fredericksburg Virginia and was on the road yesterday coming home from North Carolina I take offense to some of you all’s accusations.
    True there’s a lot of dumb ass rookie truck drivers out here but stupid fucking car drivers way outnumber us.
    Today’s trucks handle and stop almost as good as the cars do today.
    The 95 corridor is the worst highway in the United States.
    But the people driving that corridor are the worst in the United States.
    Everyone is so self important they have to be on that cell phone no matter what the weather or situation is.
    8 out of 10 people are on their phones as I pass them or they pass me.
    They think nothing about pulling over in front of us and sometimes I can’t even see their license tag yet.
    A lot of the new trucks has the same technology as your car and then some.
    Mine has Doppler radar just like the cops has.
    I know exactly how fast your going in front of me.
    They also have automatic braking too I can’t ride your bumper like I used to because the radar won’t let me,it slows my truck down.
    We’re working out here, our job is difficult enough without having to look out for some dumb ass on there cell phone drinking coffee and looking at there gps because they don’t know where they’re at.
    I’m glad I go west instead of north I much prefer driving through LA than DC.
    I’ve did this for 30 years and over 3 million miles accident free.
    I’m done later this year, you all can have this shit.
     
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    hino895 said:
    Being a truck driver living a few miles south of Fredericksburg Virginia and was on the road yesterday coming home from North Carolina I take offense to some of you all’s accusations.
    True there’s a lot of dumb ass rookie truck drivers out here but stupid fucking car drivers way outnumber us.
    Today’s trucks handle and stop almost as good as the cars do today.
    The 95 corridor is the worst highway in the United States.
    But the people driving that corridor are the worst in the United States.
    Everyone is so self important they have to be on that cell phone no matter what the weather or situation is.
    8 out of 10 people are on their phones as I pass them or they pass me.
    They think nothing about pulling over in front of us and sometimes I can’t even see their license tag yet.
    A lot of the new trucks has the same technology as your car and then some.
    Mine has Doppler radar just like the cops has.
    I know exactly how fast your going in front of me.
    They also have automatic braking too I can’t ride your bumper like I used to because the radar won’t let me,it slows my truck down.
    We’re working out here, our job is difficult enough without having to look out for some dumb ass on there cell phone drinking coffee and looking at there gps because they don’t know where they’re at.
    I’m glad I go west instead of north I much prefer driving through LA than DC.
    I’ve did this for 30 years and over 3 million miles accident free.
    I’m done later this year, you all can have this shit.
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    Makes my heart warm hearing truckers talk bad about people in cages. I can't count the times I've gotten stuck behind one truck trying to overtake another one for 5 miles on a divided highway, in the summertime, when they pull out going up a hill, and end up with 20-30 cars behind them. Happens all the time. Don't get me wrong, I hate people too...especially idiots in a Prius or some other shitbox driving under the speed limit in the left lane.
     
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    Not I-95, but I’ve traveled I-40 between Amarillo and ABQ a few times in the winter. All but this last time have been a complete shit show. And, it was easily 10:1 tractor/trailers over passenger cars in the ditches.
     
    hino895 said:
    Being a truck driver living a few miles south of Fredericksburg Virginia and was on the road yesterday coming home from North Carolina I take offense to some of you all’s accusations.
    True there’s a lot of dumb ass rookie truck drivers out here but stupid fucking car drivers way outnumber us.
    Today’s trucks handle and stop almost as good as the cars do today.
    The 95 corridor is the worst highway in the United States.
    But the people driving that corridor are the worst in the United States.
    Everyone is so self important they have to be on that cell phone no matter what the weather or situation is.
    8 out of 10 people are on their phones as I pass them or they pass me.
    They think nothing about pulling over in front of us and sometimes I can’t even see their license tag yet.
    A lot of the new trucks has the same technology as your car and then some.
    Mine has Doppler radar just like the cops has.
    I know exactly how fast your going in front of me.
    They also have automatic braking too I can’t ride your bumper like I used to because the radar won’t let me,it slows my truck down.
    We’re working out here, our job is difficult enough without having to look out for some dumb ass on there cell phone drinking coffee and looking at there gps because they don’t know where they’re at.
    I’m glad I go west instead of north I much prefer driving through LA than DC.
    I’ve did this for 30 years and over 3 million miles accident free.
    I’m done later this year, you all can have this shit.
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