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New GPO Super Compact MPVO 4-16 x 44i FFP mil shipping late May

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    Dropped at shot without much fanfare, but I think this scope is worthy of discussion.

    Built a new DMRish rifle that is waiting for this. I have one ordered via Cameraland & according to GPO these will be shipping in the next 2 weeks.

    Checks a lot of boxes for me. Pretty high hopes for this one.

    • It's short, really short
    • Hope to add a clip on & rail space shouldn't be a problem
    • German Glass
    • Japan assembled
    • FFP mil
    • 10 mil per rotation locking turrets
    • Zero stop
    • Parallax down to 10y
    • Illuminated reticle
    • 20oz
    Maybe I'm odd, but still like the Valk & built a new one. 18" 7T Special run Proof.
    It will be topped by the Axis of Evil. GPO (German + Jap) & Audere mount (Italy).

    The challenge for this scope will be finding mounts short enough. I know the Audere will fit so I have a 20moa on the way.
    Max mount length for the scope is 4.3"
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    I really wanted to run the Tier 1, but it'd be a $350 gamble as to whether or not it fit. Available max supposedly is 4.3" & the Tier 1 is 4.291"
    Will report actual once I have the scope in hand.
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    Reticle is pretty basic mil based.
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    What I was told by GPO is that this scopes Glass is German & all parts are sourced from the German HQ, but it's likley not every component is German.
    Parts are QC'd in Germany and sent to Japan for assembly. The scopes are then returned to Germany for final QC & then shipped from there.

    This is a reasonably priced scope that I'll gladly pay + $100 over an Athlon for. I also like TMR reticles so the basic mil hash is fine with me. Sometimes simpler is better. I've currently got XTR 3 (Both US and Philippines), Leupold MK5 HD, & Steiner T6Xi all 18x on AR's to compare. All are more expensive scopes with + 2 on the top end. I don't expect this to be their equal, but if it's functional I think it'll be a great option. I don't typically dial to min power anyway & if I need close I'll through a dot or irons on it to supliment the bottom end.
     

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    What the heck is double HD glass?

    BS marketing aside it looks interesting:
    -German glass and assembled in Japan
    -Light weight and short
    -Massive FOV
    -Locking windage

    Will be curious to see how the reticle looks in person, can't say I'm thrilled by lack of hashes within the first Mil and the lack of numbers (not even every 5th Mil marked...). But if the reticle isn't stupidly thin this could be an excellent crossover scope.

    EDIT: subtensions show reticle thickness as 0.2mil which must be a mistake, if they meant to say 0.02mil then that is ridiculously thin so I'm guessing isn't correct either.
     
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    beetroot said:
    What the heck is double HD glass?

    BS marketing aside it looks interesting:
    -German glass and assembled in Japan
    -Light weight and short
    -Massive FOV
    -Locking windage

    Will be curious to see how the reticle looks in person, can't say I'm thrilled by lack of hashes within the first Mil and the lack of numbers (not even every 5th Mil marked...). But if the reticle isn't stupidly thin this could be an excellent crossover scope.

    EDIT: subtensions show reticle thickness as 0.2mil which must be a mistake, if they meant to say 0.02mil then that is ridiculously thin so I'm guessing isn't correct either.
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    I'd like to see some actual reticle pictures first. They had some silly skeletonized reticle in this scope at SHOT, so I pointed out that you absolutely can not see it on low power. They were supposed to rectify that. We'll how they actually ship.

    As far as where it is built, all of the recent GPO stuff was assembled in China. I would not expect this one to be any different. The closest it gets to Japan is while flying over it and the only thing likely happening in Germany is QC.

    ILya
     
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    koshkin said:
    I'd like to see some actual reticle pictures first. They had some silly skeletonized reticle in this scope at SHOT, so I pointed out that you absolutely can not see it on low power. They were supposed to rectify that. We'll how they actually ship.

    As far as where it is built, all of the recent GPO stuff was assembled in China. I would not expect this one to be any different. The closest it gets to Japan is while flying over it and the only thing likely happening in Germany is QC.

    ILya
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    Looking at the website it doesn't say assembly n Japan so yeah must be like the rest of the GPO scopes.

    Would love to know how a scope company makes a scope with a reticle that is completely invisible at low power, even if it was just for shot show.
    You think at least one person the "design" process had used a scope before and would know it was a bad idea.
     
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    beetroot said:
    Looking at the website it doesn't say assembly n Japan so yeah must be like the rest of the GPO scopes.

    Would love to know how a scope company makes a scope with a reticle that is completely invisible at low power, even if it was just for shot show.
    You think at least one person the "design" process had used a scope before and would know it was a bad idea.
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    It was the Owner (Mike Jenson) that told me they’re assembled in Japan. He did not say everything they sell is, but specifically this Centuri Super Compact.
    I have no reason to assume the owner is lying.
     
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    Well this is interesting. I have been on the fence with GPO for a while, some interesting designs but usually blow it in the reticle department or "made in china" is another detractor, given the price point I would be shocked if this were made in Japan.
     
    357Max said:
    I was thinking the same. It looks like it's 2 lenses Laminated. @koshkin is this a common practice in the optics industry?

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    That's just marketing mumbo jumbo written by technically illiterate people to impress the consumer. Since everyone says "HD", they decided "Double HD" sounds better. It does not mean anything.

    Now, they do make nice scopes and the short 4-16x looked pretty nice. Their marketing though is kinda retarded, which puts them on par with most optics companies out there.

    ILya
     
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    koshkin said:
    That's just marketing mumbo jumbo written by technically illiterate people to impress the consumer. Since everyone says "HD", they decided "Double HD" sounds better. It does not mean anything.

    Now, they do make nice scopes and the short 4-16x looked pretty nice. Their marketing though is kinda retarded, which puts them on par with most optics companies out there.

    ILya
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    Is a laminated objective lens something that is done typically?? Or are you saying it's a single lens + marketing BS.

    I'm kind of involved with the glass industry, however not for lenses. Laminated lenses seams like it could have interesting potential.

    Bottom line marketing BS aside if this reticle is functional & glass is decent I'll be happy.
     
    Following for reports.

    Sounds delightful.

    If glass is decently servicable (bushnell LRHS or better) and actually Japan made, could need me one of these……

    Love to save space and several oz over what I run now.
     
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    357Max said:
    Is a laminated objective lens something that is done typically?? Or are you saying it's a single lens + marketing BS.

    I'm kind of involved with the glass industry, however not for lenses. Laminated lenses seams like it could have interesting potential.

    Bottom line marketing BS aside if this reticle is functional & glass is decent I'll be happy.
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    Sometimes lenses are bonded together. Sometimes they are airspaced. Both are commonly done. Bonding them together with an index matched adhesive was more common in the past before the advent of how quality AR coatings. The term laminated is not commonly used for these kidns of optical systems which is usually a dead giveaway that either someone is bullshiting or using Google translate for something they got from an OEM.

    ILya
     
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    Actually looks kinda rad except GPO kinda sucks. Have not been wildly impressed with the 2 I have used.

    Sweet specs though, surely someone can make a decent quality version of this
     
    To say the company was allegedly created by ex Zeiss staff the marketing sucks.

    The scope looks great though 20oz 4-16X50 should be a great crossover for hunting as well. I hope they get these out in Europe as well. The turret update is welcome as well.
     
    beetroot said:
    EDIT: subtensions show reticle thickness as 0.2mil which must be a mistake, if they meant to say 0.02mil then that is ridiculously thin so I'm guessing isn't correct either.
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    The 5 mil hashes are .8 wide, whole mil hashes are .4 wide, & 1/2 mil hashes are .2 wide. I tried to scale the reticle lines & come up with .08 mil.
     
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