I purchased two of their Sig M17/M18 plates and attempted to install them today.
The first issues was the rear sight which they sell and supplied and the plate is supposed to be cut for. The angle of the dovetails are significantly different. I've installed hundreds of sight sets and I fit every set, never have I had to profile the dovetail to match... So we got that done. I decided the sights needed to be installed first because tapping them in with the two little screws holding the plate to the gun would have been a very stupid idea.
Next issue was the threaded holes that the holes down screws thread in. No go. My guess is they didn't use an H tap to account for the thickness of the anodizing. I chased one with a tap thinking it may just be a burr left in there and you can see that it removed the anodizing so this is where I stopped because no way will the threads have enough strength with no anodizing. If you look at the pics you'll see that the threads aren't clean either, you can see that they're actually raised up from the plate. Completely shit machining.
So then onto the threaded bosses that pass up through the plates for the RMR to thread to. One of the plates still have huge burrs inside of it. Like REALLY bad, they were not drilled clean at all. Even the one that doesn't have burrs still is too tight. Of the 4 posts included, one will sort of fit and its very tight, when you do get it inserted it won't seat because they relief in the bottom of the plate is out of spec for them.
You can also look at the pics of the two together and see some serious QC issues between them.
So I texted the number that they text you from after you order and got a response from Buck a little bit later. At first he completely ignored the shit machining and issues with the posts and threads and only addressed the sights. Yeah no shit sights have to be fit. He finally sort of addressed the other issues but basically just told me that I don't know what I'm doing and that they won't let me return them for a refund because I fit the sights. So he's denying it because I fit the sights, which needed to be done before installing the plates and the plates can't even be installed because the machining is shit.
So almost $300 spent on junk that isn't even workable and that's their response. I'd think really damn hard before spending any money with this company.
The first issues was the rear sight which they sell and supplied and the plate is supposed to be cut for. The angle of the dovetails are significantly different. I've installed hundreds of sight sets and I fit every set, never have I had to profile the dovetail to match... So we got that done. I decided the sights needed to be installed first because tapping them in with the two little screws holding the plate to the gun would have been a very stupid idea.
Next issue was the threaded holes that the holes down screws thread in. No go. My guess is they didn't use an H tap to account for the thickness of the anodizing. I chased one with a tap thinking it may just be a burr left in there and you can see that it removed the anodizing so this is where I stopped because no way will the threads have enough strength with no anodizing. If you look at the pics you'll see that the threads aren't clean either, you can see that they're actually raised up from the plate. Completely shit machining.
So then onto the threaded bosses that pass up through the plates for the RMR to thread to. One of the plates still have huge burrs inside of it. Like REALLY bad, they were not drilled clean at all. Even the one that doesn't have burrs still is too tight. Of the 4 posts included, one will sort of fit and its very tight, when you do get it inserted it won't seat because they relief in the bottom of the plate is out of spec for them.
You can also look at the pics of the two together and see some serious QC issues between them.
So I texted the number that they text you from after you order and got a response from Buck a little bit later. At first he completely ignored the shit machining and issues with the posts and threads and only addressed the sights. Yeah no shit sights have to be fit. He finally sort of addressed the other issues but basically just told me that I don't know what I'm doing and that they won't let me return them for a refund because I fit the sights. So he's denying it because I fit the sights, which needed to be done before installing the plates and the plates can't even be installed because the machining is shit.
So almost $300 spent on junk that isn't even workable and that's their response. I'd think really damn hard before spending any money with this company.
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