I'm so new to this and prolly stupid but I went threw an ffl and bought the suppressor they took care of everything they said they would call when it came in. How can I find out how far along I am in the process?
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Call the ATF periodically. They’re are some dunce-cap wearers purporting this is of no use. They even suggest this slows your approval down because they think they are talking to regular staff and not call center workers. They are separate. I call once a month.I'm so new to this and prolly stupid but I went threw an ffl and bought the suppressor they took care of everything they said they would call when it came in. How can I find out how far along I am in the process?
I called a fee times I think it was the right place haha but never no answer and I left two messages but nothing.Call the ATF periodically. They’re are some dunce-cap wearers purporting this is of no use. They even suggest this slows your approval down because they think they are talking to regular staff and not call center workers. They are separate. I call once a month.
Things you can learn by calling:
Recieved by ATF and in system
Status, most often pending
Approved
Other details have been suggested but not confirmed by me. These could be: problems with form, problems with payment, assigned status etc.
My best friend is a patient guy. He put in a form 4 in the Spring. He never called until the following February. When he did finally call, he found out that his can had been approved in Oct. The Stamp never made it to the dealer. The dealer never checked or suspected anything was wrong. He had to apply for a replacement stamp, which went fairly quickly.
Also, just because most folks are seeing 7-12 months does not mean yours could not inexplicably slip through early (or late) seemingly out of queue. I have seen this happen
When I call, I have everything ready and turn on the charm. I figure no sense in tempting fate. These call center people already have a shitty job.
Remember the BATF works for you.
I called a fee times I think it was the right place haha but never no answer and I left two messages but nothing.
Thank you I will not leave a message. I've waited 20 plus min but I will give it more time.Here is the number: (304) 616-4500
I never leave a message. Perhaps someone else can speak to that. I just wait on hold. Don’t call on Monday. Typical wait used to be a few minutes, but now it is 20-25 mins.
Everything you said, I agree 100%. Especially the be nice and charming part. Like you said, their job is probably not their ideal position, and I'm sure they deal with a lot of rude folks and unhappy impatient jackasses all day everyday, if you're nice, you will stand out, and maybe even get a bit more info than you expected. It's happened to me quite a few times since the dealer audit issue, for example, the lady telling me yesterday that she would expect Feb/March for my next stamp to arrive. That was just out of nowhere, but we were joking and being friendly on the phone prior to, just having a normal conversation. She even remembered me from last time I called in back in December...Which is surprising, given the number of people that probably call in daily.Call the ATF periodically. They’re are some dunce-cap wearers purporting this is of no use. They even suggest this slows your approval down because they think they are talking to regular staff and not call center workers. They are separate. I call once a month.
Things you can learn by calling:
Recieved by ATF and in system
Status, most often pending
Approved
Other details have been suggested but not confirmed by me. These could be: problems with form, problems with payment, assigned status etc.
My best friend is a patient guy. He put in a form 4 in the Spring. He never called until the following February. When he did finally call, he found out that his can had been approved in Oct. The Stamp never made it to the dealer. The dealer never checked or suspected anything was wrong. He had to apply for a replacement stamp, which went fairly quickly.
Also, just because most folks are seeing 7-12 months does not mean yours could not inexplicably slip through early (or late) seemingly out of queue. I have seen this happen
When I call, I have everything ready and turn on the charm. I figure no sense in tempting fate. These call center people already have a shitty job.
Remember the BATF works for you.
Yeah…. You got a other 4-5 months easily at the rate shits going now. I have a march 12th I just called on and it’s still pending.So I called it was a shocking 5 to 6 min wait every other time I waited 20 plus min. So I bought it in mid July they started it August 3 and still pending........ I'm just not patient with anything haha but can't wait
I was able to steal away this afternoon and go grab it…Alright... Finally, some good news! My hat's off the very nice, friendly, and informative ATF examiner that came-through with her promise of an expedited approval and stamp mailing, as she was familiar with this whole ordeal.
Due to the ATF audit that took place at this particular dealer that threw a monkey-wrench in everything and made this exponentially longer than it should have been. For reference, my other 2 cans bought the day before 12/4/2020, the stamps arrived at the dealer on 8/5/2021. So, almost 6 extra months wait time due to bureaucratic red tape. If they would just go ahead and deregulate them, or 4473 them like firearms, then we wouldn't have any of these problems. Just saying...
My Rugged Obsidian 45 is now free from ATF jail. Just waiting on me to pick it up.
Here's a quick breakdown of the wonderful (almost) 14 month long migraine... I'll skip all the details of the back-and-forth calls to the ATF and dealer to find out WTF was going on during that time.
Rugged Obsidian 45 FDE
Silencer Shop Kiosk - Digital FP
Single-Shot Trust
Purchased - 12/5/2020
Cashed - 1/3/2021
(ATF Dealer Audit) Progress Halted/Disapproved - 6/24/2021
(Audit Concluded) Resubmitted - 8/17/2021
Re-Cashed - 10/17/2021
Approved - 1/10/2022
Stamp @ Dealer - 1/25/2022
In-hand - Probably tomorrow, if I can break free during the day.
I run mine mainly on a Glock 19. I would like to get a barrel for my S&W 1911 but I need to find someone that can fit one, that I can trust.I was able to steal away this afternoon and go grab it…
Full (long) configuration on the Shield 45...
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K configuration w/ the extra L baffles...
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K configuration on the Shield 45 (I personally prefer this length on this pistol).
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On my Shield 45 (in K config) it's almost identical in length to my 1911 with a 5" .22LR conversion and my DA Mask HD.
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Been wanting one for years. Jarvis is still the only ones who will make a custom stainless threaded full-bull (bushingless) 4” barrel for my 4” Kimber TLE-RL II .45. I will probably be ordering one from them in the next month or 2.Have you looked at Jarvis barrels?
Where did you buy your can?So I called it was a shocking 5 to 6 min wait every other time I waited 20 plus min. So I bought it in mid July they started it August 3 and still pending........ I'm just not patient with anything haha but can't wait
Salida colorado. I believe same place as youWhere did you buy your can?
Same place my dominus is at.. how'd you get your info after the fact?Salida colorado. I believe same place as you
I called that number up above. But I emailed Salida they gave me my sn and the name it was underSame place my dominus is at.. how'd you get your info after the fact?
I'm in the same exact boat. I figure that I have about 80 more days until I should start becoming concerned.Has anyone who did the eForm 4 through Silencer Shop had their info populate in ATF eForms?
I “certified” a week ago and got the automated ATF email, but there is nothing in ATF eforms.
It depends on where you are from haha jk yes a pretty good shopIs there a decent shop in Salida? My wife and I are looking at land out there
Yes, they have a great reloading section as well and the guys there are very nice. The do a lot of suppressors and have a fairly complete AR section.Is there a decent shop in Salida? My wife and I are looking at land out there
Nice that is a lot of places. Yeah good place to liveI don't know where I'm from. Grew up in WV and then lived in NC for 4 yrs, Germany for 11, and now Colorado for 7
Right there with you bro I’m am at 328 and 109 days….I’ve called a hand full of times, getting tired of them telling me it’s pending.329 days........
Also found out that my FFL / SOT is moving and closing down. He's "working" with the ATF to get his inventory transferred
I have the same question. My check was cashed on December 8th. I got on the SilencerShop website and created my account but I don’t know if I’m old school or new eforms. Anyone know how to figure this out???Has anyone who did the eForm 4 through Silencer Shop had their info populate in ATF eForms?
I “certified” a week ago and got the automated ATF email, but there is nothing in ATF eforms.
The struggle is real...
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The form 4 eform didn’t go online till after December 20th. My dealer didn’t get his software setup from the ATF till first week of January. I certified my electronic form on 1/11. So I’d guess yours went in old school if you sent in a checkI have the same question. My check was cashed on December 8th. I got on the SilencerShop website and created my account but I don’t know if I’m old school or new eforms. Anyone know how to figure this out???
The part that gets confusing is I didn’t have to certify in person because I bought a trust. That’s what I was told and what I read today. So it sounds like mine was part of the “certified” process which I guessing is part of the new system. Maybe not.The form 4 eform didn’t go online till after December 20th. My dealer didn’t get his software setup from the ATF till first week of January. I certified my electronic form on 1/11. So I’d guess yours went in old school if you sent in a check
I received the same email and was curious to know what the story was. My dealer efiled for me, with my trust.So what are the thoughts on the new e-form? I have never bought a can before and ordered one as an individual transfer. Setup my ATF profile and got an e-mail from them the other day casually reminding me that companies are not allowed to file on my behalf. Huh...nothing about that when I ordered the can. Called the FFL and it seems there is some confusion in the process. Guy told me they had filed 100+ e-forms on behalf of customers that were rejected because the actual transferee didn't do it. So now I have to get a trust so they can do it on my behalf.
If e-form already a complete cluster-F?
I had to go in to my dealer and certified it. I did mine as a individual, no issues so far.So what are the thoughts on the new e-form? I have never bought a can before and ordered one as an individual transfer. Setup my ATF profile and got an e-mail from them the other day casually reminding me that companies are not allowed to file on my behalf. Huh...nothing about that when I ordered the can. Called the FFL and it seems there is some confusion in the process. Guy told me they had filed 100+ e-forms on behalf of customers that were rejected because the actual transferee didn't do it. So now I have to get a trust so they can do it on my behalf.
If e-form already a complete cluster-F?
Happy for you.... also kind of sucks for us because it looks like the 10 month wait has gotten longer and is now a year. I have a Nomad-LT, R6, and a Oculus in jail.... Bought em August I think, and check was cashed first part of September or maybe end of August. Going to be a while yet I suppose.Order a Dead Air Nomad LT on 1/22/2021, check cashed 3/4/2021, just picked it up yesterday. Approval date was 1/8.
I sure hope mine is close.Finally got my first form 4 approval.
State NC
Sandman S (SS kiosk)
Purchased Feb 10 2021
Check cashed Mar 11 2021
Approved 1/31/22
Wait ~328 days.
Stamp in mail as of today.. or at least it's supposed to be in the mail.