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Something kicking off in Israel

UKDslayer said:
And we will now be importing these people, on our dime, to the US. Awesome.
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That is one of the many costs ME overlords impose ,

But you can maybe run a petition to get them all settled in NY and then fund a Escape from NY style Wall , Gazans are used to it and NY tribesmen get to live it out for real. Win-win for everyone.

In New York, state legislators proposed a bill that would make it a Class A misdemeanor – punishable by up to a year in prison – to vandalize "any banner, poster, flyer, or billboard" that supports "the country or citizens of Israel in any way."


 
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That same hour the judgment was fulfilled, and Nebuchadnezzar was driven from human society. He ate grass like a cow, and he was drenched with the dew of heaven. He lived this way until his hair was as long as eagles’ feathers and his nails were like birds’ claws. - Daniel 4:33

I could personally care less if Soros expired tomorrow but there's something about seeing someone who thinks they are God being humbled. Nebuchadnezzar was like this for seven years. Before he says goodbye to this world, Soros needs a lesson in humility as an example to other wannabee gods.
 
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Longshot231 said:
That same hour the judgment was fulfilled, and Nebuchadnezzar was driven from human society. He ate grass like a cow, and he was drenched with the dew of heaven. He lived this way until his hair was as long as eagles’ feathers and his nails were like birds’ claws. - Daniel 4:33

I could personally care less if Soros expired tomorrow but there's something about seeing someone who thinks they are God being humbled. Nebuchadnezzar was like this for seven years. Before he says goodbye to this world, Soros needs a lesson in humility as an example to other wannabee gods.
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Evil doesn't seem to get punished in this world anymore... Hopefully in the ever after.
 
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Somebody tell him that the bombs being built and delivered to the Israelis are from DEI hires, trans soldiers and the whole LGBTQ spectrum. Then tell him it is a conspiracy as he is surrounded by them, it isn't just the LGB whatevers that are rooting for Palestine. Then remind him that screwing young boys by men like they do in some of his allies in his own faith is considered to be part of that spectrum. That would be an interesting reaction to see.
 
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www.the-express.com

Iran university offers scholarships to students expelled over Gaza war protests

Mohammad Moazzeni, head of Shiraz University in Fars, made the offer to students demonstrating against Israel's actions in its war against Hamas in Gaza, Iranian state-owned outlet Press TV reports.
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Iran university offers scholarships to US students expelled over Gaza war protests​

Mohammad Moazzeni, head of Shiraz University in Fars, made the offer to students demonstrating against Israel's actions in its war against Hamas in Gaza, Iranian state-owned outlet Press TV reports.​

"Students and even professors who have been expelled or threatened with expulsion can continue their studies at Shiraz University and I think that other universities in Shiraz as well as Fars Province are also prepared [to provide the conditions]," he said, according to the outlet.
 
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www.the-express.com

Iran university offers scholarships to students expelled over Gaza war protests

Mohammad Moazzeni, head of Shiraz University in Fars, made the offer to students demonstrating against Israel's actions in its war against Hamas in Gaza, Iranian state-owned outlet Press TV reports.
www.the-express.com www.the-express.com

Iran university offers scholarships to US students expelled over Gaza war protests​

Mohammad Moazzeni, head of Shiraz University in Fars, made the offer to students demonstrating against Israel's actions in its war against Hamas in Gaza, Iranian state-owned outlet Press TV reports.​

"Students and even professors who have been expelled or threatened with expulsion can continue their studies at Shiraz University and I think that other universities in Shiraz as well as Fars Province are also prepared [to provide the conditions]," he said, according to the outlet.
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Their attendance should be mandatory…..
 
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Must be them Iranians propping up Hamas :rolleyes: tales for the gullible , Israel was always Hamas no,1 supporter , they just got US to do its bidding and Qataris to fork over the money which Mossad then delivered to Hamas in Bags of Cash.

Might need to dig up some of the Obama folks for terrorism charges for supporting Hamas

''The United States requested in 2011 that Qatar provide a base for the Hamas leadership to ease communications with the group. From 2012, Qatar hosted the Hamas party leadership when Hamas head Khaled Meshal relocated from Syria to Qatar. The current head of Hamas, Ismail Haniyeh, has resided in Doha since 2016.''



US officials have told Qatar to expel Hamas’ political leadership if the Palestinian militant group rejects the latest proposal for a ceasefire with Israel
Three diplomats familiar with the matter said Qatari officials have expected the request for months, as ceasefire talks mediated by Qatari and Egyptian officials have repeatedly failed. Qatari officials have advised Hamas officials to prepare to depart for another country should they be forced to leave, one of the diplomats told The Post. Some have speculated that Turkiye may be a possible future host of the group.

Doha has hosted Hamas’ political leadership, including Ismail Haniyeh, at the US’ request since 2012 💪and provided billions in cash to the Hamas authorities governing Gaza in recent years with the approval of the US and Israel.

However, some analysts say expelling Hamas from Qatar will not assist Israel. "Applying pressure to Hamas in Doha is ineffective pressure," an official briefed on the talks said. "The problem is the guys making the decisions are in Gaza, and they don’t care where the political office is located,"

Patrick Theros, a former US ambassador to Qatar, told The Post that kicking Hamas out of Qatar would simply sabotage the current talks further. "We’d be cutting off our nose to spite our face," he said.

Qatari officials have expressed frustration for the criticism they are receiving, simply for doing what the US had requested of them. "We did not enter into a relationship with Hamas because we wanted to. We were asked by the U.S.,"o_O Majed al-Ansari, adviser to the Qatari prime minister and spokesperson for Qatar’s Foreign Ministry, stated last week to Israeli media.

"Qatar is being used as a political punching bag for those who are looking either to safeguard their political futures or to find more votes in the next elections," he said in response to US and Israeli criticism.
 
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Mr.BR said:
Must be them Iranians propping up Hamas :rolleyes: tales for the gullible , Israel was always Hamas no,1 supporter , they just got US to do its bidding and Qataris to fork over the money which Mossad then delivered to Hamas in Bags of Cash.

Might need to dig up some of the Obama folks for terrorism charges for supporting Hamas

''The United States requested in 2011 that Qatar provide a base for the Hamas leadership to ease communications with the group. From 2012, Qatar hosted the Hamas party leadership when Hamas head Khaled Meshal relocated from Syria to Qatar. The current head of Hamas, Ismail Haniyeh, has resided in Doha since 2016.''



US officials have told Qatar to expel Hamas’ political leadership if the Palestinian militant group rejects the latest proposal for a ceasefire with Israel
Three diplomats familiar with the matter said Qatari officials have expected the request for months, as ceasefire talks mediated by Qatari and Egyptian officials have repeatedly failed. Qatari officials have advised Hamas officials to prepare to depart for another country should they be forced to leave, one of the diplomats told The Post. Some have speculated that Turkiye may be a possible future host of the group.

Doha has hosted Hamas’ political leadership, including Ismail Haniyeh, at the US’ request since 2012 💪and provided billions in cash to the Hamas authorities governing Gaza in recent years with the approval of the US and Israel.

However, some analysts say expelling Hamas from Qatar will not assist Israel. "Applying pressure to Hamas in Doha is ineffective pressure," an official briefed on the talks said. "The problem is the guys making the decisions are in Gaza, and they don’t care where the political office is located,"

Patrick Theros, a former US ambassador to Qatar, told The Post that kicking Hamas out of Qatar would simply sabotage the current talks further. "We’d be cutting off our nose to spite our face," he said.

Qatari officials have expressed frustration for the criticism they are receiving, simply for doing what the US had requested of them. "We did not enter into a relationship with Hamas because we wanted to. We were asked by the U.S.,"o_OMajed al-Ansari, adviser to the Qatari prime minister and spokesperson for Qatar’s Foreign Ministry, stated last week to Israeli media.

"Qatar is being used as a political punching bag for those who are looking either to safeguard their political futures or to find more votes in the next elections," he said in response to US and Israeli criticism.
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" United States requested in 2011 that Qatar provide a base for the Hamas leadership to"
ahhh, O and McCain creating lots of terrorist groups.
Thanks again for giving us Isis. IF the two couldn't find a terrorist grouped it loved, it created one.
 
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babyguppy said:
" United States requested in 2011 that Qatar provide a base for the Hamas leadership to"
ahhh, O and McCain creating lots of terrorist groups.
Thanks again for giving us Isis. IF the two couldn't find a terrorist grouped it loved, it created one.
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Continued under Trump and Biden , US gave ok for every bag of cash that went to 44,000 Hamas civil servants , there were some hickups with money in 2014 but then it went right back to bags of cash. just the mechanism changed a bit previously Qataris brought bags of cash on diplomatic flights and handed them over to Hamas later they handed the cash to Mossad so Israelis were handling all cash transfers directly .-...

In a way it was borderline amusing how folks jumped the gun on Iran Hamas link , IRGC probably killed more Hamas fighters than Israel did prior to 7th october.
US brokered the deal with Qatar as Hamas became a US ally in 2011 was supplied not just with cash but also arms ( would not be supprised it it was part of train and equip program),was both useful to Israel and US in Syria fighting Assad and the Iranians , Iranians have their own pet terrorists in Gaza PIJ but those are actually rivals to Hamas.

ISIS is much simpler it just housed in US controlled camps in Syria and used when needed
 
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Israel has closed the Kerem Shalom crossing into Gaza after Hamas fired rockets from within the strip.

Israel said the attack killed three of its soldiers, injuring several others.

The crossing is one of the few routes to get humanitarian aid, including food and medical supplies, into Gaza.

Mediators in the Egypt have held two days of talks aimed at securing a deal for a ceasefire in Gaza and the release of hostages held by Hamas.

In a statement, Hamas said the latest round had ended on Sunday and that its delegation would now travel from Cairo to Qatar to consult with the group's leadership.


The CIA chief William Burns, who has also been involved in mediation efforts, has also left the Egyptian capital for talks in Doha, according to reports.
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Israel-Gaza war: Three soldiers killed in Kerem Shalom rocket attack

Israel has closed the Kerem Shalom crossing - one of few Gaza aid routes - after the rocket attack.
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Before Hamas was what it is today, it was just a fringe group of Palestinian Muslims with no real power. Today, Hamas rules Gaza with an iron fist, and all because of the U.S. and Israel, according to former congressman and presidential candidate Ron Paul.


Former Israeli officials like Brig. Gen. Yitzhak Segev, who served in the Israeli military in the 1980s, fully admit to this. Segev told a New York Times reporter that he helped finance the Palestinian Islamist movement as a “counterweight” to the secularists and leftists of the Palestinian Liberation Organization and the Fatah party, which was led by Yasser Arafat.
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Mr.BR said:
Must be them Iranians propping up Hamas :rolleyes: tales for the gullible , Israel was always Hamas no,1 supporter , they just got US to do its bidding and Qataris to fork over the money which Mossad then delivered to Hamas in Bags of Cash.

Might need to dig up some of the Obama folks for terrorism charges for supporting Hamas

''The United States requested in 2011 that Qatar provide a base for the Hamas leadership to ease communications with the group. From 2012, Qatar hosted the Hamas party leadership when Hamas head Khaled Meshal relocated from Syria to Qatar. The current head of Hamas, Ismail Haniyeh, has resided in Doha since 2016.''



US officials have told Qatar to expel Hamas’ political leadership if the Palestinian militant group rejects the latest proposal for a ceasefire with Israel
Three diplomats familiar with the matter said Qatari officials have expected the request for months, as ceasefire talks mediated by Qatari and Egyptian officials have repeatedly failed. Qatari officials have advised Hamas officials to prepare to depart for another country should they be forced to leave, one of the diplomats told The Post. Some have speculated that Turkiye may be a possible future host of the group.

Doha has hosted Hamas’ political leadership, including Ismail Haniyeh, at the US’ request since 2012 💪and provided billions in cash to the Hamas authorities governing Gaza in recent years with the approval of the US and Israel.

However, some analysts say expelling Hamas from Qatar will not assist Israel. "Applying pressure to Hamas in Doha is ineffective pressure," an official briefed on the talks said. "The problem is the guys making the decisions are in Gaza, and they don’t care where the political office is located,"

Patrick Theros, a former US ambassador to Qatar, told The Post that kicking Hamas out of Qatar would simply sabotage the current talks further. "We’d be cutting off our nose to spite our face," he said.

Qatari officials have expressed frustration for the criticism they are receiving, simply for doing what the US had requested of them. "We did not enter into a relationship with Hamas because we wanted to. We were asked by the U.S.,"o_OMajed al-Ansari, adviser to the Qatari prime minister and spokesperson for Qatar’s Foreign Ministry, stated last week to Israeli media.

"Qatar is being used as a political punching bag for those who are looking either to safeguard their political futures or to find more votes in the next elections," he said in response to US and Israeli criticism.
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Very interesting. What are your sources?
 
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Very interesting. What are your sources?
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Well it seems Qatar functioned as a cutout for US to avoid running afoul of US legislation well it seems involvement with Hamas predates 2011
In 2011, U.S. President Barack Obama personally requested that Qatar, one of the U.S.'s most important Arab allies, provide a base for the Hamas leadership.
* you can bet your money that US admin also asked Qataris to set up Taliban HQ in Qatar

Every penny that enters Gaza does so with US and Israeli go ahead and Israelis actually handle all the money handovers themselves.
Qatar does, the official allows, transfer $30 million each month to the Hamas administration in Gaza. But those payments are performed in consultation with Washington and Israel - and with their approval, he says.

Each month, he says, construction materials worth tens of millions of dollars are also delivered from Egypt to Gaza via the Rafah border crossing. those supplies are then sold by Hamas. He says the organization uses the proceeds to pay its administrative staff. Israel, in turn, he explains, supplies $10 million worth of diesel fuel to the Gaza Strip each month, with Qatar providing another 10 million to needy families. They receive $100 each.


www.spiegel.de

NATO Partner and Hamas Host

Qatar is an important NATO partner, but it also plays host to Hamas' political leader – to mediate, the country says. Doha's role has come under renewed scrutiny in Germany, to the annoyance of many officials in the Gulf nation.
www.spiegel.de www.spiegel.de
 
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And the family squabbling continues….
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In northwest France, 1192, when the Crusader king of England Richard the Lionheart lay mortally wounded after being shot through the neck during a siege against the castle of a rebellious Flemish noble, Richard's final words before dying were of lament that peace would never come to the Holy Land for thousands of years to come. A King of England who regarded Jerusalem more as his home than his own windswept island that he had singlehandedly wrenched from the grasp of all the feuding Norman warlords who had challenged his family's rule. His dying words turned out to be more than the truth...
 
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theLBC said:
didn't they impeach trump for something like this?

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Lets just say the truth: Israel is pissed the US taxpayer hasn’t financed their war for 14 days. Israel sounds like Zelensky. Everyone has their fucking hand out. Do they not have more than a fortnight’s worth of munitions?What about the US issues at home?

For a country that is the most technologically advanced in the ME, they seem to need a lot of help. Why is that? Why is no one asking that question?

I honestly am neutral about this and the Ukraine conflict. But I’m not neutral on our government raising taxes to cover their overspending for other countries and then raising taxes on us again to keep it going.
 
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Lets just say the truth: Israel is pissed the US taxpayer hasn’t financed their war for 14 days. Israel sounds like Zelensky. Everyone has their fucking hand out. Do they not have more than a fortnight’s worth of munitions?What about the US issues at home?

For a country that is the most technologically advanced in the ME, they seem to need a lot of help. Why is that? Why is no one asking that question?

I honestly am neutral about this and the Ukraine conflict. But I’m not neutral on our government raising taxes to cover their overspending for other countries and then raising taxes on us to keep it going.
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i don't blame them for asking...we could always say no...and there are no "delays".
xiden has to play both sides because of the rioters or protestors.
and there is this...

WASHINGTON, May 7 (Reuters) - The Biden administration will miss a Wednesday deadline to report to Congress on whether Israel is violating international humanitarian law in Gaza, four sources said on Tuesday, findings that could fuel concerns over its use of U.S.-supplied weapons against the Palestinian enclave.
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A National Security Memorandum, known as NSM-20, that Biden issued in February requires the State Department to report to Congress by May 8 on whether it finds credible Israel's assurances that its use of U.S. weapons does not violate U.S. or international law.
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the people that might be upset are the congress members that already passed a bill to give them this shit.
 
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theLBC said:
i don't blame them for asking...we could always say no...and there are no "delays".
xiden has to play both sides because of the rioters or protestors.
and there is this...





the people that might be upset are the congress members that already passed a bill to give them this shit.
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respectfully, you made my point. It isn’t the American people giving away all these weapons and funds across the world. It’s our elected officials. When does the American citizen become priority? “Never” is the only real answer I see. We will fund these wars but not stop the illegals from invading our own country. And those Palestinians in Rafah are coming here. Why? Why will no one ask or answer this question?

I will ask the question again: if Israel is such the technological powerhouse, why is the U.S. taxpayer funding their war? Why are they so desperate for arms after only 14 days? Why is the US funding both Israel and Hamas? Why is Israel funding Hamas?


I‘m not trying to be an ass, but I do have these questions. They are honest with no ulterior motives.
 
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respectfully, you made my point. It isn’t the American people giving away all these weapons and funds across the world. It’s our elected officials. When does the American citizen become priority? “Never” is the only real answer I see. We will fund these wars but not stop the illegals from invading our own country. And those Palestinians in Rafah are coming here. Why? Why will no one ask or answer this question?

I will ask the question again: if Israel is such the technological powerhouse, why is the U.S. taxpayer funding their war? Why are they so desperate for arms after only 14 days? Why is the US funding both Israel and Hamas? Why is Israel funding Hamas?


I‘m not trying to be an ass, but I do have these questions. They are honest with no ulterior motives.
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people don't get rich or stay rich by spending their own money if they can get somebody else to pay.
i don't want to get into stereotypes but...:p
 
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oh, and again, "military" aid spending comes right back here to prop up the economy and feed the mic.
i think something like 40% of gdp was federal spending.
 
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theLBC said:
oh, and again, "military" aid spending comes right back here to prop up the economy and feed the mic.
i think something like 40% of gdp was federal spending.
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Which means 40% of the GDP is not sustainable without the government printing and spending money, which is public debt that carries interest. That cannot last. That’s not world power strength, that is weakness.
 
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