max1840 said:

What's the chances of PVA ever doing 20 cal's?

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I have some 20 caliber blanks here that I bought last year but I have no plans to make 20 caliber or smaller.

Use the proper wrench to change the barrel. You will be happier in the long run.

I use neither. I use shouldered prefits and screw them on. If you are using a barrel nut then you should have at least the go gauge.

If you have another suitable method to hold the action to torque it, use it.

Yes, you can use shim stock or other materials to turn the go gauge into a no-go gauge

MMH said:

Which seating stem for ELD-M - standard or VLD?

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VLD

Ledzep said:

A theme I see in this thread I have a slight bone to pick with : "load to a velocity and go"

The velocity isn't what makes the load shoot well. I can make the same bullets shoot 0.5 moa or 2-4 moa at the same velocity with 2 different powders. There's something to the combination of bullet, powder, and barrel that makes things happy.

There is some nuance that makes some load testing worth while. With enough powder options most any quality bullet can be made to shoot well in a quality barrel. With enough bullet options a quality powder can usually be used to shoot well. But randomly assembling them and loading to a velocity isn't a guaranteed option to get great results.

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I could be wrong, but I see this statement more as a "I want to shoot 130 AR hybrids and only need about a 2780 fps MV to be competitive" type of mindset. So then you try to load to that MV and maybe tweak a bit whether up or down on your powder charge to stay just around said MV once you find acceptable accuracy.

Maybe I'm wrong and maybe they are indeed saying "load to a certain velocity" because they have a mindset that such a velocity equates a good load, etc.

But I would assume the first option is probably what they mean .

Ledzep said:

A theme I see in this thread I have a slight bone to pick with : "load to a velocity and go"

The velocity isn't what makes the load shoot well. I can make the same bullets shoot 0.5 moa or 2-4 moa at the same velocity with 2 different powders. There's something to the combination of bullet, powder, and barrel that makes things happy.

There is some nuance that makes some load testing worth while. With enough powder options most any quality bullet can be made to shoot well in a quality barrel. With enough bullet options a quality powder can usually be used to shoot well. But randomly assembling them and loading to a velocity isn't a guaranteed option to get great results.

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I assume most people are using a known good combo, eg. Dasher with 105 Hybrids on 32.5 ish grains of Varget.

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Fig said:

CO2 is the physical fuel in chloroplast based photosynthesis that allows plants to use solar energy to break off the carbon atom and create long chain carbon molecules (sugars) with it. The waste product being O2-oxygen. The very basis of all life on earth. Oxygen is actually the waste product of photosynthesis, but I don't see anyone calling that a "pollutant" either.

When this period of collective asshattery is over these people will be looked at as being every bit as ignorant and narrowminded as some illiterate, dark-ages, dirt farmer who thinks the earth is flat.

The Pleistocene era, the coldest the earth has ever been since there was oxygen and surface water, with ice caps going from the poles to the middle of the USA, lasted for almost two million years, and we only mark it as being over 11,000 years ago. That is the coldest our planet has even been. We ARE in a warming period. The evidence is pretty conclusive. But, we just (like 1/10 of a second ago in geologic time) got out of a very bad ice age. The world is going to get much, much warmer, and there is NOTHING we can do about it, nor should we try.

Before the ridiculous theory of Anthropogenic Global Warming, based on the concentrations of a trace gas, this was widely known and accepted even by students. It is only through the widespread dissemination of this ridiculous junk science for political purposes that such idiocy persists. It is nearly identical to the church of the middle ages promoting a flat earth to scare people into not exploring any further.

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Yes I know. Was making a point as to the stupidity of the "C02 is killing us" mindset

EddieNFL said:

Haven’t tasted alcohol since Jul 98. Don‘t smoke anything. With the exception of two surgeries and a kidney stone, no opioids. I couldn’t pass a field sobriety test. If I’m driving stupid, ticket or arrest me.

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Field sobriety test is just there as a “step” to testing. So is the Horizontal gaze nystagmus. If you fail those, you can be compelled to take a breathalyzer. You can also refuse to take a breathalyzer. But in most states that means automatic loss of license.

You don’t *have* to walk the line or do the Cyrillic alphabet backwards etc. just say “officer, I will gladly do a roadside breathalyzer test.” FYI the roadside test is not “admissible.” The only “admissible” test is the big chemistry set at the police Dept. But roadside test allows
The officers to make an arrest and then take you to the station to blow into the “big” machine.

They can also get a warrant and require a blood test. But that is often useless because getting a warrant for a blood test can take hours and therefore the results are worthless.

But if you can’t walk a straight line sober… just ask for the roadside breath test. You blow zeros and short of taking you in for a blood test (with warrant) before the test… it’s have a nice night sir!

The downside… if you blow an .006… or an .004…. not an .008… you may still have to go “in” for a more precise test. At .008 you are assumed to be incapacitated. But if you are acting fucked up at .004, you may be considered drunk or incapacitated depending on how your actions are observed and recorded in report (it’s all about the report.). Depending on behavior or actions. Doesn’t pay to be a lightweight! BUT… if you are .004 it is MUCH harder to convict for DUI even if
You are acting drunk. So your lawyer will plead it out easily.

BTW at the academy I was the “designated drunk” along with two other guys during DUI school. Every officer has to do 5 tests before “passing” training. It took me 13 beers in a bit over an hour to blow .008. I peaked out at .010 a bit later as alcohol was still entering my system. I thought I was “too drunk” and ready for testing after 4 beers. The cadre laughed at me… said I had a lot more drinking to do. .008 is never “a couple.” Unless you are talking bottles of wine.

But there ya go. Just the evil police trying to get revenue from happy harmless drunks trying to get home from church.

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CValero said:

After weeks of YouTube channels, articles, websites, so called experts and having managed to convince my husband how “essential” buying a scope would be to our marriage. He told me he wanted a complete report to justify the large expense.
I am ready to buy. So…, For my dream long distance rifle scope, I would would like the following scope features
1. First Focal Plane
2. In the ballpark of 5-25x56
3. Mil Reticle (not mil dot)
4. Exposed ‘Mil’ Windage and Elevation Turrets w/Zero stop and all ‘stainless steel’ internals (nothing plastic but I will accept Brass).
5. 30mm or 34mm Tube.
6 Chrisp, loud ‘clicks’ for both windage and Elevation Turrets.
7. Lightweight (maybe 32 ounces) but whatever. Also ‘Throw-levers’ are good.
8. illumination ( I think?)
Budget under $3k.
This would be my first scope, so be gentle. Nonetheless if anyone feels the urge to disagree with my choices, please provide any reasons or recommendations. I am really appreciative.

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Top O' Texas said:

What is the heaviest bullet any have seated to 2.870"? Velocity and use are of no concern.

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Berger elite hunters 175

Ledzep said:

A theme I see in this thread I have a slight bone to pick with : "load to a velocity and go"

The velocity isn't what makes the load shoot well. I can make the same bullets shoot 0.5 moa or 2-4 moa at the same velocity with 2 different powders. There's something to the combination of bullet, powder, and barrel that makes things happy.

There is some nuance that makes some load testing worth while. With enough powder options most any quality bullet can be made to shoot well in a quality barrel. With enough bullet options a quality powder can usually be used to shoot well. But randomly assembling them and loading to a velocity isn't a guaranteed option to get great results.

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This is something I want to see also. Hoping to learn.

its how many is remaining in the box.

Farmertan said:

And men shouldn't wear shorts with cowboy boots.

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At least not straight men.

Which seating stem for ELD-M - standard or VLD?

As someone who just got approved for 2 cans I'm curious about this thread. Both of mine can be broken down. I'd just planned on tumbling in a wet tumbler with SS pins, Dawn, and maybe some lemishine. This would not be adequate if I was directly tumbling the baffles?

EddieNFL said:

Fail. No armory or ammo supply point.

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Or whore house.

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Is it still for sale? Not asking for a friend.

FredHammer said:

@redneckbmxer24 Not to say there isn't something amiss with the rifle, but how about trying other bullet brands? I had ELDMs not shoot for shit in some barrels, but laser beam others. I ran some micrometer tests on several bullets per bullet brand and found the diameters were not all the same. Some were .0006 over caliber size and some only .0002 over caliber size. Might be something to do with how they seal/obturates in a particular bore?

You caught shit for continuing to buy Bergara, but I look at it that you've more license to your complaint than someone who just went apeshit after just one. So, good on you for persevering until you saw a bad pattern with the multiple samples. (The jabbing comments were pretty damn funny and I hope you were able to get a little chuckle out of them. LOL)

Maybe you have custom rifles and like to fuck around with the cheapies, I like to do that with Savage, but I can spin barrels and suss out problems pretty quick with a Savage. I run ARC actions, Benchmark barrels with my selected reamers, etc and all them rigs shoot great! Worth the extra money over a train wreck like this lemon you got.

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The rifle has been shot with 4 different types of ammo and bullets including the Federal TA that Bergara guarantees it to shoot with. Factory ammo in 7PRC is still limited in flavors and I have zero interest in reloading for it. They guarantee it to shoot sub MOA with factory match ammo so it should.

I have high end stuff but I wanted a 7PRC hunting rifle and got tired of trying to find a PH2 and didn’t want to spend $3K+ putting one together for my uses. I rolled the dice on this since it had been a while since I had owned a Bergara and thought maybe they had their shit together based on reports, I lost. After the first bad range session and calling Bergara on the way home to set up the RMA, my second call was to Jason at Euro Optic to order the Seekins I should have just gotten from the start and he talked me into an Element and I’m glad I went that route. My plan was to keep the Bergara too as I do like the rifle overall except for the horrible accuracy and to use it as a backup/loaner hunting rifle but my faith in getting the rifle to shoot is now at zero and I’m done wasting my time and ammo with it.

I still want a second 7PRC and I’ll probably give the Browning Xbolt 2 a try whenever they start shipping.