Like new condition. Has only 25 rounds down the pipe. Not interested in any trades. $1100 Venmo or Paypal FF. Price includes shipping.

I've followed this gentleman for a long time and wanted to pass along this article. Here's the text (but you miss some good memes --original comprises most of the link). I have 0 combat experience, but I was raised by WW1 (yeah that were getting old), WW2 (Grandparents/teachers), Korea, and Vietnam Vets (Parents/Teachers).


Note: "I" is not me DocRDS, its MSSGT Paul Howe

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THE WHITE HAT SYNDROME



Many of my generation grew up with the understanding that the good guys wore “White Hats” and always prevailed in the fight. The concept portrayed is that those who fought fairly always won their battles. Life has taught me that the “White Hat” mentality will cost lives and victories.



From a friend and former SF Captain, “No quarter. Thems the rules. That’s how we lived by making them dead.”

I have been in combat, led by “White Hats,” and watched them implode. Their Hallmark Channel vision of combat did not allow them to raise the level of violence necessary to decimate the enemy. Instead, they accepted losses that could have been avoided had they brought the Patton or LeMay attitudes on killing to battle. As has been said, if you kill enough of them, they stop fighting.



Unfortunately, it takes years of war for the real killer Officers and Senior NCOs to emerge from the ranks. These real Officers and NCO’s must wade through their political rivals who were promoted because they were yes men, instead of military leaders. This applies to police as well, as we tend to promote political knee pad wearing Chiefs instead of meat-eaters who have restraint, until the time for restraint passes.



Combat

The realities of combat taught me that you can have compassion on the battlefield when appropriate and anyone who has combat time understands this. The reality is you must be prepared to ignore compassion. It becomes a decision based on if you determine if they are good or bad. As has been said, war is not pretty. In fact, it is very brutal on both sides, especially on the side of the loser.



Case Histories

Porvenir massacre (1918)



Southern cross-border raids were taking place at this time and a violent one just occurred involving American ranchers where throats were slit, others shot and supplies stolen.



Company B of the Texas Rangers, went into the nearby town, separated 15 men and boys from the women and children and shot them on a nearby hill. Town residents took their dead and moved away. The town was then burned to the ground by U.S. government troops a few days later.



While articles promote sympathy for the villagers, the raids stopped. Did the Rangers get their bad guys? Most likely. Mission accomplished.

Did they take their White Hats off for a couple of days? Most likely. From my understanding, the Ranger Company was disbanded after the incident. Woke leadership has always existed.

WWII combat stories leaked out after decades and the reality of when the White Hats came off, and the actions necessary to win was applied. You can read about General Curtis LeMay’s fire bombings of Japan at the strategic level in “Black Snow,” by James M. Scott.

“With the Old Breed,” E.B. Sledge’s account of the island hopping in WWII and the brutality of ground combat was sanitized in the movie, “The Pacific.” Yes, you must read to get the details. Most are too graphic for the screen.

PTSD and the White Hat

What I found common among combat vets of the past, was to talk it out on the boat ride back and never talk about it again. Now, combat vets can hang out in a bar back home the following week.

By compartmentalizing issues, they will sometimes fester to the surface through drinking, family problems and other visible signs. Suicide was the ultimate signal of a problem.

As time went on, more and more older veterans were interviewed. Some came to peace with their actions, some reconciled what they had done as being necessary. They let out the brutality of what it was like to the next generation of Americans. Amateur historians and combat vets like me were able to piece together a few simple facts. The violence of war does not change. Also, it is still handled the same way by individuals and chains of command.

Chain of Commands (COC)

COC’s get the missions accomplished by empowering the lower ranks, mostly enlisted, sometimes Captain on down. Upper Chains of Command avoid the gory details most of the time and focus on promoting the glory of a few individuals to defer attention to their screw ups. They do not want to know what really happened. They would rather focus on their future careers by throwing a few awards around, giving speeches to other Officers and moving on without really knowing the facts of the battle.

I have served under Commanders that were ultra “White Hat” and heavily religious, resulting in their nervous breakdowns in the HQ, not in combat itself, rather, in the rear with the gear so to speak. Their Hallmark world would not let them accept the reality of combat. They lived in a pompous elite world of officerdom that promoted looking after their careers, rather than that of their soldiers that got them promoted. It is what it is. Screw up, move up and make general.

This applies to the NCO ranks as well. Officers prefer to promote “lap dog” NCO’s who do not rock the boat. These lap dogs will fold in combat and I know of one 1st Sergeant who curled up fetal during combat ops, while their soldiers were fighting and dying around them. The organization kept them despite their conduct.

The higher the “White Hat” gets promoted, the more soldiers they can cause to unnecessarily be killed or wounded.

Individual Soldiers

Reading WWII accounts of Marines bayonetting all bodies in a just blown-up pillbox in the South Pacific is an example. Describing that the dead enemy did not bleed, but those still alive did when getting stuck, was telling. It is a picture for those who did the task to not unsee.

Soldiers I know who got the job done, had to take off the White Hat. They solved problems quickly and efficiently and put emotions aside to accomplish the task at hand. Some had a differently calibrated scale of “what is important” and how they emotionally handled events and what significance they applied to the event.

Soldiers came home and then attempted to put the White Hat back on. Some were not able to wear it again because they could not reconcile with what they had done and seen. I know 3 individuals from a small group, from my time in Special Ops that have committed suicide. All had multiple psych evals, screenings and passed an intensive selection process. PTSD impacts everyone.

The reality of the White Hat

In my view, once it comes off, it will never go back on. It is a grey area that combat vets dwell in. The illusion of a fair fight is gone. Win at all costs is the theme.

Combat Vets make the best of their lives and attempt to work through the issues they have on a day-to-day basis.

It has been said that the most savage fighting man on the planet is a 17-year-old soldier who is fresh for the fight. Point them and they attack.

I would argue that a middle-aged combat vet with a bit more weight and grey hair is far more deadly and savage than the younger generation. They have lived life, understand life, and do not want to go back to that place they have been before. They do not care about artificial rules and the Geneva Convention. They want to kill quickly and efficiently and get back to their boring and mundane life.

Further, they understand life and if they must leave it, their attitude is “Screw it, let us take care of business at all costs. I have had a good run should it be my time to die.”

Finally, I know why we have a generation addicted to combat (GWOT) as it allows them to focus on the next mission and not dwell on the past problems.


With that, Combat Vets need to put small, but positive important missions in their personal path in life to help forget when they had to take the White Hat off. This helps them move on with life in a positive and meaningful way..



My lessons learned:

• Read valid history of those who have gone before and what they endured.
• If you want to serve in the military for a short time, do so, but understand what you are signing up for.
• If you want to make it a career, give back by teaching the next generation before you punch out (retire).
• Be brutally honest with your soldiers and make training as realistic as possible so the jump to combat will be a minimal as possible.
• Rules of Engagement are written by a JAG Officer with no real-life experience who will not be on the same battlefield as you. Understand this and make life-saving combat decisions vs. “White Hat” decisions that will get you or your people killed.
• Make peace with your combat decisions ahead of time by talking with combat vets and getting the “real deal” as to what you will encounter. This will make any PTSD less impacting. It is controlled violence vs. uncontrolled violence. Know the difference and come and to terms with it.
• If you chose to go the Officer route, realize many good officers get out as Captains. They either become disillusioned or do not want to become political as the Officer Corps requires. Just look at our current crop of General Officers and decide for yourself on how far you want to climb the political ladder. Be careful not to sell your soul for rank.
• If you go the Officer or NCO route, take care of your people before you take care of your own career. Doing this will ensure you are promoted as excellence can be your only result and it is hard to hide it.
• Combat is tough enough, living with it after long-term can be just as tough. Communicate issues with those you trust and vent. As with a long road march, put one foot in front of the other and keep moving forward.
• As for me, I don’t have a White Hat. I know the deal and keep that mindset in its place by channeling positive thoughts and actions. It will always be there, ready to dust off and put to use, should the need arise. I prefer not to dwell there, but like a pistol in the concealed carry mode. It is ready and insurance for one’s survival.
• LEO’s, your world is just as violent. Take what you can use from this and apply it. Remember Uvalde and all the “White Hats” there, that would not go in and save kids.

About the Author

Paul R. Howe is a 20-year veteran and former Special Operations soldier and instructor. He owns Combat Shooting and Tactics (CSAT), where he consults with, trains, and evaluates law enforcement and government agencies in technical and tactical techniques throughout the special operations spectrum. See combatshootingandtactics.com for details.

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Very nice classic middy, all BCM other than the carry handle and Magpul stock. No issue with it, very clean maybe 1000 rounds if that. Includes med Gunfighter CH and 20 rd Pmag.
*Carry handle sight zeroed and set up using the RIBZ.

***ONLY TO STATES THAT ALLOW THE RIFLE IN IT'S CURRENT STATE***

*I will need the FFL copy or numbers to check via ATFE EZ CHECK SITE*
*I will include copy of my OL--me to FFL*
*If local to me(SW Fl) a transfer via FFL*

Thanks and please lmk.
825 lower 48 where legal
USPS MONEY ORDER, CHECK WITH HOLD OR ZELLE--NO OTHERS.

DISIDENT ARMS VEPR12 , race ready
$3000 shipped

Got a really nice 7sst up for sale. Built a 7 max and no longer need this.
Sterling precision out of Missouri
Defiance tenacity
Manners eh1 (your choice)
Triggertech trigger
20" proof
Less than 250 rounds through this rifle. Been some time since i shot it but had a great load with 175 bergers around 2800 fps
Brass 42 pieces and 50 loaded
Dies
$3300

Best part is the last portion of the article:

“Let this be a harsh, painful lesson for every EU citizen: your traditions, your culture, and your way of life are always just one refugee away from total annihilation”

This applies to the US as well.

This is the stripped upper only. Color is black. This is a take off upper from a LMT rifle. Used on one trip to the range, and is in excellent condition.

$750.00

Ships CONUS only.

Alien Gear Cloak Tuck 3.5 IWB

Fits Sig P320 x5

Only light draw practice, great shape

Sold shipped

I have a 25sst built by Ryan Pierce that i would like to sell.

Kelby atlas
Manners eh1
Triggertech
24" proof barrel

Less than 500 rounds through this rifle. Closer to 400
Shoots awesome just built a couple dedicated rifles that this was inbetween
(6 prc/si and a 6.5 max)

Have a great load with berger 135s that i will share with buyer.
Comes with hornady dies and around 400 berger 135s. 4 touching and the other one is definitely on me

$3350 to your ffl

XL 650 fully upgraded, every posibile upgrade.
1 oem toolhead
2 armanov toolhead

$1400 shipped

Cleaning up some extra's, they will fit into a small USPS Flat Rate and priced accordingly.
As a note the Sierra's go at 45-49 per 100 plus tax and shipping.

AVAILABLE-Sierra .30 168 SMK, 248 count-90 shipped

*sold*Hornady .30 150 FMJBT-273 count-45 shipped


USPS money order, check or Zelle---NO PP, VENMO, ETC. ETC.

Don’t feel like getting ripped off on GB, if you have one laying around and want to make a deal hit me up

UBR2
$140. Shipped

manners eh1-a short action, bedded for an impact and proof sendaro
Grayboe bottom metal
Atlas pic rail up front
Also sending studs to run a full arca rail on bottom
$1000 shipped

Triggertech diamond curved this one has less than 2000 rounds in it warranty sticker in place sold shipped

Like new Peak01 iron sights from Scalarworks

$200 shipped

For Sale - New

-Desert Precision Gunworks custom works - No expense spared, long wait time
-6mm ARC
-MDT ACC Elite plus (Rem 700 Chassis)
-MDT ACC Elite Control Bridge
-Custom Cerakote - Dark Blue to White Ombre
-Zermatt Arms Big Horn - TL3 Action *DLC Coated*
-PPC Bolt head, AICS Mag, right handed, Comp bolt Knob, 20MOA Rail
-Krieger 26" Barrel, Straight 1.25" Contour
-Threaded 3/4x24TPI True Bore Aligned
-Custom DPG Muzzle Brake
-Timney Trigger - Two Stage
-DPG 1/2 MOA guarantee

NJ FFL to your FFL - Shipped $6300

My life has change after a long wait and I don't think I will have time anymore for PRS matches. Unfortunate. Hope someone can do this justice as the spring season starts.

FS- Sphur 4602
4= 34mm tube
6= 6mil/20.6MOA of elevation tilt
0= no special variations
2= 1.5in/38mm of height

Let me know if interested would be interested in trading for a 5001 if you have it thanks.

$350

Got this with a recently purchased rifle and do not need. Previous owner said only 60 rounds of factory ammo on the barrel. 26 inch fluted with factory brake. Excellent condition.

$500 or trade to short 308 barrel or other desert tech mags/accessories.

I’m considering this rifle:



I did some searches and couldn’t find the same DBM. Maybe it’s older or a small, out of the business shop. It looks robust, but it’s just a picture.

1. Does anyone know what it is?
2. Was it drop in for factory BDL floor plate or a custom inlet?

I may want to use the stock for another rifle and dont necessarily want a drop magazine.

Thanks for any help,
Greg

P.S. If anyone here is stalking that rifle online, please just buy it and save me the money.

I’ve got a Dakota 76 actioned rifle that used to be a 22-250 but been rebarreled to 6.5 creedmoor.
It’s a floor plate mag. Hornady ELDX 143gr shoot lovely but jam nose to tail in the mag.
I’ve now moved to Hornady 129gr SST which don’t jam but when you stack 4 in the mag the rounds sit slack at the rear and tight on the shoulder.
This means the bolt can miss the round and not feed it into the chamber, just push it back under.

Can this be fixed somehow.
Also can you get a DBM for the Dakota 76?

Cheers!

Brand new here and don't want to take a misstep. After perusing the site for a few hours, I came across a WTB post asking if anyone has a particular rifle for sale. I have the rifle mentioned and I would like to sell it. Not being a 'supporter', is it against group rules to reply to that WTB post? Hope to hear from a site admin or moderator. Thanks again for having me.

Hi,

I’m from Suffolk, UK.
Got a Dakota 76 actioned rifle in 6.5 Creedmoor with a McMillan stock and Proof Research Carbon barrel.

Lovely to shoot and performs well.
Got a few issues with it though and hoping someone on here can help.
I’ll stick a separate post on the bolt action page

3 shots @ 100 yards