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Run N Gun rifle - Plan B/Rearden vs Area 419 Hellfire

BLUF: Does anyone run Hellfires on lightweight gas guns? I see them all the time on heavy bolt guns. I'm trying to figure out if my use case is appropriate.

I've just picked up my first suppressor (B&T Print-XH) and so I need to switch my muzzle devices over to something compatible and have to pick a brake. I mostly compete in Run N Gun matches where length and weight are critical. I'm a high performer and frequently place on the podium, so I spend more time than some folks optimizing gear.

I expect to run about 80% unsuppressed so my primary criteria is brake performance, not as a suppressor host. Cans are heavy & hot and both of those are disadvantages in a RnG match when you have to run 5-10 miles with the risk of burning your leg carrying a slung rifle with a blazing hot can after a 45 round stage. However, I still want to be able to attach a suppressor on occasion for night matches, etc. I need to outfit 5 rifles. I was originally gonna go with Rearden SPB muzzle brakes and a Wolfpack Low Profile HUB Adapter (lightweight, minimum OAL) and call it a day, but the Hellfire system has caught my eye.

Performance: Hellfire wins, but only slightly
I believe that the Hellfire will stabilize the muzzle better under recoil with less dot movement and allow faster follow up shots. (Based on my experience having shot a 5.56 with SPB and a 6ARC with 3 Port hellfire on them and the 6arc was smoother). On the other hand, the extra weight hanging off the muzzle will absolutely slow down the swing on transitions. Those of you who don't compete may scoff at this, but stages are won and lost by tenths of a second, so these small factors do matter.

Resilience/Durability: I think it's a tie
Any plan B muzzle device has exposed threads that can be damaged and RnG matches are brutal on gear. Whereas there are no exposed threads on Hellfire. But with a Hellfire system and suppressor, there's no sacrificial baffle to protect the can to take some of the abuse to the can with a short barrel (which is where the majority of my usage will be). So I think these factors balance out.

Price: Hellfire wins
The difference here isn't enough to sway me 1 way or the other, so it's a moot point, but just to be thorough.... It would be $300 for Hellfire (I would buy a 2 Port Hellfire + 4x universal adapters). It would be $400 for Plan B (5x Rearden SPB). I only plan on buying 1 Hellfire brake, at least to start, since it's so easy to swap the brake from rifle to rifle - basically QD.

Length and Weight: Plan B wins
The Hellfire 2 port brake is 2.5x heavier (4.1 oz compared to 1.7 oz) and 0.6" longer than an SPB.

Thoughts?

Longer COAL on Rem 700

I was doing some tinkering around with my Rem 700 in 7-300 win mag earlier today with bullet measurements. The smith who built the rifle didn't really throat it properly unfortunately. On the flip side of that, its also probably the best shooting rifle I've ever owned. When I had it built 10 years ago, my plan was to shoot the 162 amax from the 28" Bartlein 9 twist. There were no really good high bc bullets other than the 168/180 bergers back then. Anyway, the 162 amax hit the lands at around 3.450" which is very short, and the bullet is seated way down in the case. I shot them for 7 years or so before finally switching to the 180g ELDMs. These hit the lands around 3.5" But again, these are seated very very deep in the case. The dreaded "donut" got me thinking well just how far out do these 180s need to be seated to not be in that area? I haven't experienced donut issue yet from the Nosler brass that's been fired about 10x, but just got me curiois anyway. From my crude measurements I'm coming up with around 3.750" which is a tad bit longer than you can fit, feed, and function through the factory mag. I'm well aware of Wyatts extended box mags as I had to have one for my 338 EDGE/300g SMK build years ago. I think that allowed me to get to 3.8" or so. I'm just wondering if that is the most cost effective way to get a longer COAL? I have a McMillan A5 stock, but it's just inletted for the standard BDL bottom metal. Would it be worth it to convert to M5 AICS mag setup? Can a guy install the Wyatts mag box himself? The M5 detach mag set ups are pretty spendy from my limited research. Could I have a smith go in and just ream out the throat to the new desired length? And if so, could that potentially be a risk on ruining how it shoots?Here is a couple pictures to represent what I'm talking about with the bullet lengths.

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SOLD Ckye Pod Triple Pull

MDT Ckye Pod Triple Pull Gen 2. Good condition, no issue. Pod knobs.
$800.00 obo tyd conus
Trade for LH Impact 737 action +cash

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Optics March Shorty 1-10 Gen II DR-TR1F

Selling my March Shorty Gen II 1-10 with Dual Focal Plane Reticle (DR-TR1F). Has the Shuriken locking turrets. Only used for two matches. Great shape. However, I did lose the factory throw lever so it is not included. Mount and MDT level not included.

Only selling to get the ZCO 210.

Asking 2400 shipped. Paypal f&f preferred.

Trade Interests:
Razor Gen III 6-36
ZCO 210
ZCO 420


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SOLD Accuracy International Gen 3 ATX

Looking to sell or trade my Gen 3 atx. Rifle will come with 26” AINA 6 creed barrel with approximately 400 rounds on it, flat trigger shoe, folding hinge, 20 moa rail for forend, internal weight kit, and MK machining grip.

RIFLE ONLY $4,500 shipped con US OR partial trade for 16” 6 ARC gas gun and cash on your end

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30% Off Supporter Sub? Can it apply to active subscribers?

I received an email tonight about a 30% off a Supporter subscription. No mention of new members only.

I tried to gift myself a subscription, but it creates an error.

Anyway to apply this to existing Supporters? Looks like the coupon is good for 30% off for 3 months.

No big deal either way, but I’m always happy to save a few bucks.

@Lowlight

SOLD WTS Custom Rifle - Origin, Grayboe Ridgeback, TriggerTech Special, Proof 6.5CM

SOLD

Have one too many horses in the stable so this guy has to go. Zermatt Origin short action mated to a 26" stainless steel Proof barrel cerakoted and chambered in 6.5 Creedmoor by Blue Mountain Precision. This is a heavy palma profile, 1-8 twist with 5/8-24 muzzle threads. Trigger is a TriggerTech Special, all sitting in a Grayboe Ridgeback stock. Bipod and scope not inculded.

Nice rifle with about 800 rounds on it. Shoots the 140 class bullets very well. Asking $2100 $1800 shipped to your FFL. PayPal f&f or Zelle only. Cross posted. Might be willing to sell without the stock.

SOLD

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Gov. Hochul Claims Concealed Carry Permit Allowed Manhattan Shooter to Have AR-15

CLAIM: During a gun control rant on CNN’s Inside Politics, Gov. Kathy Hochul (D) noted the alleged Manhattan shooter had a concealed carry permit and claimed the permit allowed him to have an AR-15.
VERDICT: False. Having a concealed carry permit centers on the carrying of handguns for self-defense, not rifles.
Moreover, having a concealed carry permit does not allow a visitor to ignore the laws of a state to which they travel. The alleged Manhattan shooter had driven across the country to New York, and in New York there is a prohibition against guns which Democrats refer to as “assault weapons.”
To take it even further, even if having a concealed carry permit pertained to rifles–which it does not–New York does not recognize the concealed carry permit from any of the other 49 states, according to USCCA.
Additionally, as news of Monday’s shooting broke on Breitbart News, we noted that Mike Bloomberg-affiliated Everytown for Gun Safety ranks New York as No. 4 in the country for stringent gun control, in part because the state bans “assault weapons.” Nevertheless, the alleged attacker used an AR-platform rifle in Manhattan, the very kind of rifle that Democrats refer to “assault weapons.”
Although New York’s “assault weapons” ban failed to prevent the Manhattan attack, Hochul made clear she believes such a ban on a national level would equate to being “tough on crime.”
Similar claims were made by Democrats during the Clinton administration.
On September 13, 1994, the New York Times ran a column explaining that the very term “assault weapon” was one that “Democrats created” in the 1990s in order to ban “a politically defined category of guns.” The NYT noted there was “a spike in gun crime,” so 1990s Democrats found something they could ban in order to allow themselves to appear to be fighting crime.
Same song, different verse.

New Old Guy from Oklahoma

Just wanted to introduce myself. Recently retired and finally have some time to get back into hunting, shooting and golf. I'm new to wearing glasses. My whole life I've had 20/12.5 vision. With glasses though, I find it takes more time to find the sweet spot through the scope. Would contacts be better for shooting? I don't know, have never worn contacts and do not know the ends and outs.

Anyway, thanks for having me as a new member, and Semper Fi to all of you Marines.

Accessories Manners Certs

So I've been stacking manners certs all summer, ordered my stock this spring went to pay for it and saw the fine print on the gift cards. "one per stock" well crap.

I have 2 that are $250 each I'll sell for $100 each. Exp dates are 1 month apart on these but first buyer gets choice. You just have to have your stock on order by mid 2026 *one sold to Chgunz* ***both sold***

I have one that is a $500 that I may keep or trade for another cert. What I don't know. Maybe a foundation or? I have vortex and leofoto certs already. Or if someone really wants it $400

PayPal F&f or venmo, I'll send a photo of the back of the gift card after payment.

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Optics WTS Swarovski Binos, RF Bino, Spotter

Selling the following items:

10x42 EL Range TA Orange $2,800.00
12x42 ELs $1,850
15s SLC $1,800
STS 65 20x60 eye piece $2,000

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Firearms Oracle Arms 2311 Pro Package - like new

Well I bought this to be my end all pistol for a while but then just today I finally found a deal on a staccato XC that I couldn’t say no to. This pistol is a month old and I am the original owner. There is 1 round fired through it and that’s it. There’s some small wear by the mag well as that’s how it came from factory for some reason. Didn’t bother me enough to send it back.

- Comes with the factory carry bag with 4 magazines (21 round mags so know if you have state restrictions)
- high desert black
- surefire ultra 300
- leupold delta point pro

$2,800 shipped for the entire package. No trades as this is going towards the XC.


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