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WOKE-ism in firearms.

Back in the day, we called it "weak side" and "weak hand". With the pistol in the WEAK hand, at a 45 degree angle to the ground, at the sound of the beep the shooter will engage the target with two to the body and one to the head. WEAK hand. Weak side.
Now, we are calling it "support side" and "support hand" BS. It is WEAK and needs to be called like it is. WEAK.

SOLD 2023 Rolex Explorer II WTS/WTT

I was going to list this on Rolexforums, but I figured it might be interesting to hold off for a day or two an see of anyone wants to do a deal for my '23 Rolex Explorer II?

Purchased it new in the Spring of '23, but it's sat on my watch winder almost the entire time. This watch the newer 3285 movement, and it's been running bang on (not losing or gaining any seconds beyond the current time) for the last 3 months that I've been time graphing it in a timing run. Insanely precise for such a relatively small mechanical device! I've owned dozens of stainless steel sports model Rolex watches and minus the ceramic bezel models - they're all built like a tank and can withstand the abuse. ALL of their models are backordered 1-3 years out, depending on the reference and your dealer relationship (can't just go in and buy them anymore).

Open to trades, trades + cash, or selling it outright. I'm not really looking for rifles or ammo, but random things that I would be interested in are good thermal, a 1-10 LVPO, possibly a decent March optic at higher or lower power, ACOGs, an Elcan Spectre, but just let me know what you have and I'll let you know if interested!
On watchrecon.com this reference lists in the $9000's up to $10500 pre-owned, but I can do $8325 in cash, trade, or cash + trade value.

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It's a complete set, all links, box, warranty card (international warranty expires 3/2028), manual, both hanging tags (including the one with the serial and model that the Rolex AD's always seem to keep to themselves), and the watch:

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The lume is outstanding on these!


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Accessories Garmin Tactix Delta Solar w/AB

This is an older model but still has Applied Ballistics.

It has had a lot of wear but the last several months has just sat around, I just don’t use it or wear it anymore. Perfect working condition and still a little dirty at the moment.

$500 shipped takes it

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  • Poll
Short 308win barrel twist rate for subs/why no fast twist 308 barrels?

Which twist for short barrel 308 running subs and supers (basically like a 300blk)

  • 1:7

    Votes: 6 21.4%
  • 1:8

    Votes: 9 32.1%
  • 1:9

    Votes: 5 17.9%
  • 1:10

    Votes: 9 32.1%
  • 1:11

    Votes: 0 0.0%

Been looking at getting a short 308 barrel for a little while with the hopes of running subsonics for plinking/fun/limited hunting, but still shoot supers.
Looking at posts on here and playing with the Berger stability calculator, it seems like a standard 1:10/11/12 twist barrel are capable of handling subsonics, the 1:10 being the best candidate but all able to do it if you choose the right projectile.

However, I can't help but wonder why 1:8 twist barrels for 308win aren't a thing, especially shorter barrels.
1:8 is more or less than standard twist of 300 Norma, so there is obviously no risk in a short barrel 308 over spinning bullets.
Running the numbers on a 110gr bullets @ 3000fps in a 1:8, the RPMs are 270,000 which is getting up there but still comfortably under the 300k magic number.

If I'm going to get a 16-1" barrel spun up and want the most versatile twist possible, what should I go for? Stick with a more standard 1:10, or go faster to a 8 or 9 twist?
I'm dream (probably a pipe dream) would be able to comfortably run subsonics, 125gr TMKs and 168-175gr SMK/TMKs.

Suppressors Abel Co Pi - Rimfire & 5.7 suppressor

Hey everyone,

Our new .22 suppressor just went live on the website!


The Pi is our newest addition to our suppressor lineup. The Pi is a precision .22 caliber suppressor rated for .22 (full auto), .22 Mag, FN 5.7 and 17 HMR. Each end of the Pi is built with modularity in mind - the mounting adapter and the end cap are fully removable. Each baffle is designed with a key and keyway, and is numbered - this takes the guesswork out of re-assembly after cleaning/maintenance. Key performance features we pursued in development were consistent POI and return to zero, minimum First Round Pop (FRP) and significant decibel reduction on both .22 pistols and rifles. We designed a product that not only outperforms the majority of what is currently on the market, but also highlights our craftsmanship and extreme attention to detail.



This is not another basic tube design with identical baffles shoved into it and designed to be the cheapest option on the market. We wanted this suppressor to posses the characteristics of what we at Abel Co. value - performance, mastery and obsession with our craft. THIS suppressor does just that. The Pi takes on the aesthetic design of our Theorem line - paying homage to one of the greatest mathematicians of all time in both name and artistry.



The Pi ships with the following:

(1) Closed front end/exit cap

(1) Multi-tool

(1) 1/2-28 Mounting Adapter

(1) User Manual

(1) Creature Patch & Stickers

WARRANTY:

100% covered, don't stress.



BARREL LENGTH RECOMMENDATIONS:

.22, .17: None/No Restrictions

FN 5.7: 4.8"

*Barrel length recommendations listed reflect what has been tested by our team in-house.



SPECIFICATIONS:

Length: 5.5"

Diameter: .970" - 1.00"

Weight: 6.3 oz

Caliber: .22, .17

Material: Tube: Grade 9 Titanium, Baffles: 17-4PH H1150

Finish: High Temp Cerakote (C Series)

*Decibel Rating: Left/Right Ear: 115dB, Muzzle: 120dB (16" Vudoo, 40GR CCI Standard)

*Decibel Rating: Left/Right Ear: 117-118dB, Muzzle: 121dB (4.4" Ruger MKIV, 40GR CCI Standard)

*All dB ratings are expected to be within <1.5% margin of error

*All testing was carried out using the B&K PULSE Sound Level Meter (SLM) using a LAN‐XI 3‐ch. Input Module Type 3052 (Sampling rate of 262k samples/s) and (3x) 4944-A pressure field microphones in specified locations in accordance with MIL-STD-1474E.




3RD PARTY TESTING:

2024 TBAC Suppressor Sound Summit Results HERE

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Optics Athlon Black Friday / Year End Sale Has Begun

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The Athlon Black Friday / Year End Sale Has Begun

As with Sightron we are starting the The Athlon Black Friday / Year End Sale now. This gives you extra time to coordinate your Christmas shopping and maybe grab something for yourself in the process. We will have all kinds of amazing opportunities for you, now through the end of the year, so keep checking our Web Site.

We offer ZERO % financing on all web orders. Please look at Affirm at check out, if this is something that interests you, for 0% financing.

Some examples of the great Athlon Deals we have for you are:

Talos Spotting Scopes reduced from $199.99 to only $129.99

Silver Coated K9 Prism - K9 glass prisms with silver coating reflect great mount of lights to your eyes which will give you bright image.
Fully Multi-Coated lenses gives you great light transmission and bring bright images to your eyes.
Nitrogen Purging uses the inertia gas to purge moisture out of the tube giving you better waterproofing and thermal stability .
Waterproof to protects the binocular in the harshest weather conditions or if accidently submerged underwater
Rotating Ring allows you to rotate the scope around tripod supporting ring into the most comfortable and convenient angle for observation

Ares Spotting Scopes starting at only $499.99
UHD Glass: Extra-low dispersion glass gives you an image with little or no chromatic fringe so the final result brings an ultimate clearest and sharpest image to your eyes
Interchangeable: Eyepiece Interchangeable Eyepiece allows you to swap the standard variable power eyepiece with a fixed 24 power eyepiece with a MIL ranging reticle in it.
ESP Dielectric Coating: ESP Dielectric Coating is a multi layer prism coating that reflects over 99% of the light to your eyes bringing you a clear, bright image that displays accurate color reproduction.
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XPL Coating: XPL Coating gives you an extra protection on the exterior lenses from dirt, oil and scratches
Bak4 Prism: Bak-4 glass prisms reflect more light to your eyes thus will give you brighter and sharper image.
Advanced Fully Multi-Coated: Advanced Fully Multi-Coated lenses bring you better light transmission to bring optimum brightness and true color across the entire light spectrum.
Argon Purged: Argon Purging uses the inertia gas with bigger size molecules to purge any moisture out of the tube giving you better waterproofing and thermal stability .
Waterproof: Waterproof to protect the binocular in the harshest weather conditions or if accidently submerged underwater
Rotating Ring: Rotating Ring allows you to rotate the scope around tripod supporting ring into the most comfortable and convenient angle for observation

The new Cronus G2 UHD Dual Focus 20-60x86 45º Spotting Scope reduced from $999.99 to only $849.99 - The pinnacle of clarity and color definition. The Cronus G2 20-60x86 features dual layers of ED glass to eliminate chromatic aberrations, providing the sharpest detail in Athlon's spotting scope line-up. A convenient dual focusing system provides a quick coarse focus, while fine focus adjustment makes hitting peak focus a breeze.
APOCHROMATIC LENS SYSTEM
Helps in converging refracting colors into one focus point, producing greater contrast, sharpness, and color definition.
UHD GLASS
Gives you an advantage with an image that has little or no chromatic fringe for the clearest and sharpest image.
XPL PROTECTIVE COATING
A protective coating that gives you extra protection on the exterior lenses to prevent the scope from enduring dirt, oil, and potential scratches.

Athlon Midas G2 Series Binoculars starting at only $219.99
UHD Glass: Extra-Low Dispersion glass gives you an image with little or no chromatic fringe so the final result brings a clearer and sharper image to your eyes
ESP Dielectric Coating- Enhanced Spectral Prism Dielectric Coating: ESP Dielectric Coating is a multi layer prism coating that reflects over 99% of the light to your eyes bringing you a clear, bright image that displays accurate color reproduction.
Lightweight Magnesium Chassis: Magnesium chassis give you the strength of a metal chassis while reducing the weight as much as 35%
XPL Coating- Xtra Protective Layer coating: XPL Coating gives you an extra protection on the exterior lenses from dirt, oil and scratches
Phase Corrected prisms: Phase corrected prisms produce images that have better contrast, a higher resolution and better color reproduction
BaK4 prisms: Bak-4 glass prisms reflect more light to your eyes which will give you brighter and sharper image.
Advanced FMC: Advanced Fully Multi-Coated lenses gives you better light transmission to bring optimum brightness and true color across the entire light spectrum.
Long Eye Relief: Long eye relief can be particularly important for eyeglass wearers
Close Focus: Close focus is important for those who are nature observers and especially important if you are going to watch butterflies or insects
Twist Up Eyecups: Twist up eyecups with intermediate stops allow you to set the eyecups to the ideal eye relief for you eyes
Waterproof: Waterproof to protect the binocular in the harshest weather conditions or if accidentally submerged underwater
Argon Purged: Argon purging gives you better waterproofing and thermal stability

Midas 1 Mile Rangefinder reduced from $289.99 to only $179.99 - Use the scan mode to quickly scan the field from 5 yards to 1 mile. Displays distances in yards or meters and 3 different ranging modes: Horizontal (line of sight), Vertical and Angle compensated. Waterproofing and non-slip grip Rubber Armor protect the Midas 1 Mile on the toughest hunts.

Cronus G2 10x42 UHD Binocular reduced from $499.99 to only $399.99
E2ES System- Edge 2 Edge Sharpness system: E2ES System is a field flattening system that produces sharper, clearer images all the way from one lens edge to the other
UHD Glass: Extra-Low Dispersion glass gives you an image with little or no chromatic fringe so the final result brings an ultimate clearest and sharpest image to your eyes
ESP Dielectric Coating- Enhanced Spectral Prism Dielectric Coating: ESP Dielectric Coating is a multi layer prism coating that reflects over 99% of the light to your eyes bringing you a clear, bright image that displays accurate color reproduction.
Lightweight Magnesium Chassis: Magnesium chassis give you the strength of a metal chassis while reducing the weight as much as 35%
XPL Coating- Xtra Protective Layer coating: XPL Coating gives you an extra protection on the exterior lenses from dirt, oil and scratches
Phase Corrected prisms: Phase corrected prisms produce images that have better contrast, a higher resolution and better color reproduction
BaK4 prisms: Bak-4 glass prisms reflect more light to your eyes which will give you brighter and sharper image.
Advanced FMC: Advanced Fully Multi-Coated lenses gives you better light transmission to bring optimum brightness and true color across the entire light spectrum.
Locking Diopter: Locking Diopter keeps the diopter adjustment knob from accidentally moving from the optimal setting
Long Eye Relief: Long eye relief can be particularly important for eyeglass wearers because longer eye relief allows them to still see the entire field of view.
Close Focus: Close focus is important for those who are nature observers and especially important if you are going to watch butterflies or insects
Twist Up Eyecups: Twist up eyecups with intermediate stops allow you to set the eyecups to the ideal eye relief for you eyes
Waterproof: Waterproof to protect the binocular in the harshest weather conditions or if accidentally submerged underwater
Argon Purged: Argon purging gives you better waterproofing and thermal stability

The amazing new Midas G2 PRO 12x50 UHD Reticle Binocular reduced from $449.99 to only $399.99 - Dominate the field with the Midas G2 Pro. The Midas G2 Pro gives match shooters an edge by providing a massive field of view and ample magnification. The new ATBR reticle provides a clean and unobtrusive reticle, ideal for providing corrections and ranging. Built on the proven performance and glass quality of the Midas line, the Midas G2 Pro is a winning combination for precision shooters. Featuring a reticle leveling adjustment, reticle focus, diopter focus, our smooth center focus, and the phenomenal glass the Midas G2 line is known for.

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Halloween Flash Sale - Free Shipping on all Inceptor Bullets

Inceptor ARX Bullet Halloween Sale
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Frangible on Steel | Accurate


9mm (.355) 65gr ARX
$57 / 1000 ct + Free Shipping

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SOLD Tangent Theta TT315P 3-15x50 Gen 2 XR LNIB

Tangent Theta TT315P 3-15x50 Gen 2 XR with Tangent Theta Throw Lever and Nightforce Ultralight Rings. Original docs and box and sunshade included. Excellent condition.

May consider partial trade on lightweight hunting glass.

$spf

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Handloading rimfire (w/ vid)

Hey guys! Just thought I would share how I handload my 17HMR ammo (and other rimfires) for extreme consistency and ELR shooting. I also reload spent brass, but am not covering that in this video. Another video to come for reloading this winter. Just know, this is NOT cost effective at ALL. I do this because of the performance gains, not for saving money. It's a very time consuming and labor-intensive process, but well worth it!

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First suppressor

Looking for a little info from the suppressor crowd. I am looking to get my first one and I will probably set up a rifle specifically for this project. This is really more a question of what is the best round to start with for a suppressed hunting rifle. I was eyeballing the 338 ARC pretty hard, but with all things equal as far as FPS goes would a 458 socom be a better option for hunting? Are there any rounds that are known to be particularly difficult as far as feeding and functioning that I should stay away from? I have a short barreled 338 lapua that I will probably eventually get a can for as well, but for this one I want to set up a rig to run true subsonic suppressed rounds but I would like to get as much kinetic energy as possible for hunting.

Walther PDP reviews, thoughts on several models

Who has and what kind of experience with the Walther PDP, specifically the Steel frame models, the PDP F, PRO models and the also new PRO-X model with the integrated Comp? Just looking for impressions, comparisons to what else you have and shot, did you buy any of them for Duty, competition, or just Home or carry defense, and how has it worked out and if you could do it all over again would you buy it again in a heart beat or pass?
Thanks in advance for all the feedback I hope people provide.

Upper Receiver to Barrel Nut Thread Tightness - Does it matter at all?

Sometimes you get a barrel nut that has a pretty tight fit with the upper receiver threads (no play, you need to use a bit of force to thread the barrel nut all the way) and other times you get a barrel nut that threads on super easy and wiggles around on the receiver threads until it tightens up against the barrel extension lip.

Does the tightness of the thread fit between the upper receiver and barrel nut matter at all if you are trying to squeeze the most accuracy out of your AR?

I’m curious if barrel nut with loose threads (but is properly torqued) is more likely to cause rail deflection or barrel harmonics issues?

Does the presence of Aeroshell grease on the threads make this whole topic irrelevant?

I don’t think I’ve ever seen this topic discussed.

Lithium-Ion Battery Plant fire - Missouri

Now imagine you are driving a type of car that your floorboard is one big battery. Now imagine your government hates you (should be pretty easy) and they remotely lock your doors and overheat your batteries causing a fire. Hold on my pager is going o

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