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9yo Suicide Over Homophobic Bullying

Strykervet

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    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45323933

    9yo supposedly tells mom he's gay over the summer and after the 4th day of bullying at school he kills himself. It's a sad situation, yeah, but 9? And it says his mom said "he discovered he was gay over the summer and was so proud to tell his classmates". WTF? Really? What planet did mom go to school at to give that kind of advice? How the fuck did a pre-pubescent kid figure it out? Gay, not gay, it's not 4th grade material. 4th grade and I was into GI Joes and got my first shotgun but fucking dudes was not on the radar.

    Everything in the article makes sense for a kid in puberty but not a 9yo. At 9 you aren't that adept at hiding emotions from parents and short of a firearm suicide wouldn't be easy at all (which I'm guessing wasn't the method since it doesn't blather gun control bullshit for half the article). And where the fuck was mom? It's obvious she wasn't too bright but how did the kid manage to kill himself without her knowing?

    Anyone else smell bullshit? If this had happened 20 years ago the parents would be under suspicion for murder and that'd be the story, nobody would have bought this then.
     
    A kid was bullied to the point of suicide. That sucks. I think it's pretty early in a child's development for sexual imprinting at age 9, and I would have thought the kid would have showed some victim signs of bullying that the parents would be aware of that. But I don't have all the facts here to make a judgement call on the internet. He might have been a really aware kid, parents working 2 jobs and aren't around much, etc etc. It sucks. I guess the take away from this is check on the kids and make sure things are going alright. Some hide things better than others, I guess.
     
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    This is the end game of the LBTGQ (whatever the fuck they call themselves) agenda.

    Remember when some raised the alarm that children were their ultimate goal and were accused of paranoia/hate/whatever? Well folks, turns out we were right after all.
     
    Here's what I think happened. Notice the article says noting about Dad at home.
    Mom is married, has two kids.
    Decided she was gay and gets a divorce.
    Has a girlfriend and tells her kids it's ok to be gay.
    Daughter is old enough to know better.
    9-year old is not. He's impressionable and want's to be just like the woman he loves, Mom. He decides he too wants to be gay.
    Mom encourages him.
    He's not old enough to know better yet, but thinks it's gonna be cool to be just like Mom.
    He goes to school, tells everybody he's gay.
    Gets bullied to the point of suicide.

    This is just ALL speculation on my part of course, but you can't ignore that there's no dad in the picture.
     
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    Here's what I think happened. Notice the article says noting about Dad at home.
    Mom is married, has two kids.
    Decided she was gay and gets a divorce.
    Has a girlfriend and tells her kids it's ok to be gay.
    Daughter is old enough to know better.
    9-year old is not. He's impressionable and want's to be just like the woman he loves, Mom. He decides he too wants to be gay.
    Mom encourages him.
    He's not old enough to know better yet, but thinks it's gonna be cool to be just like Mom.
    He goes to school, tells everybody he's gay.
    Gets bullied to the point of suicide.

    This is just ALL speculation of course, but you can't ignore that there's no dad in the picture.

    I think you nailed it....you’re insight into what brought led up to this is amazing. Maybe the dad was out of the picture because he was a middle aged white man that drank, spent money on guns and liked to beat his wife and child.
     
    I don't know what to say. The fact that suicide is even thought of at that age is upsetting.

    Bullies prey on the weak. Don't be weak.

    In this day and age, smart kids don't want to go to jail. And they know if they fight back the might go to jail.

    Years ago, you could stand up to a bully kick his ass, or get your own kicked. Once they knew you were a fighter they would leave you alone. Kids don't have that option now.
     
    Nice earring Jamel! Yup, no parental agenda here...RIP kid...shame on YOU mom!
     
    Kids seem to be introduced to adult topics at an earlier age these days yet their maturity level is lower than a similar aged peer of years ago.

    Confronted with the 24/7 news cycle bad news and adult topics are the white noise of every day life. Kids are aware enough and get this exposure.

    I only feared nuclear attack as a child growing up. These days kids fear priests, school shooters, illegal aliens, sharks in the water.

    As a kid my kids age I was grabbing public transportation from my suburb location and going to Red Sox games or hanging out in Harvard Square with my likewise 11 or so year old friends.

    No kid today has that freedom or ability it seems.

    Part of that issue again goes to the 24/7 news cycle as parents now have the same fears as the kids - not for themselves but for their kids.

    A big knock on Mitt Romney was that he wanted to return the US to the 1950s.

    There is a lot to dislike Mitt Romney for but living the ideal of Father Knows Best or Leave it to Beaver shouldnt be one of them save for a few glaring issues on gender and race.
     
    Thinking Mom wanted 15 minutes of fame perhaps some attention and using her son was a springboard to the attention she sought.

    sadly she didnt realize the cost or the extent of the attention.
     
    Thinking Mom wanted 15 minutes of fame perhaps some attention and using her son was a springboard to the attention she sought.

    sadly she didnt realize the cost or the extent of the attention.

    That's pretty low. It's the moms fault that her kid killed himself? Guess it's her fault for supporting her supposedly gay son?

    A child is dead because he was bullied. A parent lost their child because other parents raise their children to be cowards who pick on the weak and isolated for sport. A child died because other children are raised to see being gay as being less than and worthy of hatred.

    How many other threads have their been on the Hide about child suicide? There's plenty of other kids that take their own lives. Are you going to blame a 12 year olds mom for having an ugly daughter? Of course not.

    But this one gets special attention so bigots can fly their flag and make some social commentary on some nefarious agenda of treating others with respect regardless of their sexual preference.
     
    That's pretty low. It's the moms fault that her kid killed himself? Guess it's her fault for supporting her supposedly gay son?

    A child is dead because he was bullied. A parent lost their child because other parents raise their children to be cowards who pick on the weak and isolated for sport. A child died because other children are raised to see being gay as being less than and worthy of hatred.

    How many other threads have their been on the Hide about child suicide? There's plenty of other kids that take their own lives. Are you going to blame a 12 year olds mom for having an ugly daughter? Of course not.

    But this one gets special attention so bigots can fly their flag and make some social commentary on some nefarious agenda of treating others with respect regardless of their sexual preference.

    Agreed.

    but thats the society we live in.

    Do you have kids?

    Mine are 10/11.

    They are aware there is such a thing as "gay".

    I dont think at their ages I knew any more than it was a name we called each other.

    I think I remember the moment I realized what gay meant reading a news article about Barney Frank and it dawned on me "He kisses Dudes". That was my awakening of what it meant to be gay failing to really grasp the idea of the Billy Christal character in "Family".

    My kids are 100 percent gay aware and view it as a norm.

    Billy Christal was ground breaking playing a gay man in my childhood time. Based on my kids TV/cultural awareness if I asked them they would probably think 50% of the world is gay.

    I dont teach my kids "lifestyle" other than to say people can do whatever they want as long as it harms no other. Likewise I try to teach them nothing in life is free and you must work to get where you want to be.

    Other parents not so much.

    Whether its trying to live their failed sports prowess through their kids or pushing their social justice agenda through their kids you honestly know that exists.

    Calm your knickers with your shock at my supposition. Its an avenue of investigation and you know it.
     
    How about instead of blaming the parents, or the child, or the mysterious gay agenda...you blame the shitty kids that bully, and shitty parents that teach their kids it's okay.

    Bigoted parents raise bigoted kids.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc...r-adults-threaten-transgender-student-n900881

    When I was in school I hated bullies since I was bullied some what at an early age moving frequently to different schools. But decided early on to turn that shit against them. I got in plenty of fights some for my self but more for standing up for other kids being bullied. I got my licks in got my ass kicked a few times and got my fair share of a paddle accross the ass for my good deeds.

    By the time I made it to high school I had pretty much sorted all of the insecure shitheads out and others had started following suit so it wasn't a big problem for those years. The principals in both middle school and high school new what I was doing and for all I can guess understood it was for the better as I never got in any serious trouble for it.

    Nowadays the kids have been pussiffied to the point that they either don't want to do the right thing or are in fear of retribution from the ass wipes that are supposedly in charge that they are easy targets from overly emboldened bullies.

    And Srgt. Hulka I believe nailed it in his explanation.
     
    When I was in school I hated bullies since I was bullied some what at an early age moving frequently to different schools. But decided early on to turn that shit against them. I got in plenty of fights some for my self but more for standing up for other kids being bullied. I got my licks in got my ass kicked a few times and got my fair share of a paddle accross the ass for my good deeds.

    By the time I made it to high school I had pretty much sorted all of the insecure shitheads out and others had started following suit so it wasn't a big problem for those years. The principals in both middle school and high school new what I was doing and for all I can guess understood it was for the better as I never got in any serious trouble for it.

    Nowadays the kids have been pussiffied to the point that they either don't want to do the right thing or are in fear of retribution from the ass wipes that are supposedly in charge that they are easy targets from overly emboldened bullies.

    And Srgt. Hulka I believe nailed it in his explanation.

    Bull fucking shit. You're falling into the thinking trap of "Well I did it so everyone else should too."

    I've had more than a few adult friends take their lives or attempt to; mostly in the military. The stigma that being depressed or suicidal makes you weak is what keeps a lot of guys from getting help.
     
    Thinking Mom wanted 15 minutes of fame perhaps some attention and using her son was a springboard to the attention she sought.

    sadly she didnt realize the cost or the extent of the attention.

    or maybe she did...
    did mom over excite the so called bullying?
    i find it hard to believe cupcake couldnt take 4 days of shit from school, and i dont think it could have been too bad because the hyper sensitive school system would have done something... they are arresting kids for chewing a peanut butter sandwich into some thing that looks like a pistol for petes sake.
    4 months of ribbing, maybe, not 4 days, it wasnt a vietnam prison camp...
    it smells of family problems
     
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    Bull fucking shit. You're falling into the thinking trap of "Well I did it so everyone else should too."

    I've had more than a few adult friends take their lives or attempt to; mostly in the military. The stigma that being depressed or suicidal makes you weak is what keeps a lot of guys from getting help.

    I dont think the OP stated "I did it so others should"

    I think what he is saying is that in the past kids to an extent where allowed to fight their battles and bullies paid for their asswipeyness.

    Now a days self defense is not an option, defenders being punished as harshly as aggressors.

    Probably a little designed conditioning going on there.

    Who needs a society that will fight back?
     
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    Agreed.

    but thats the society we live in.

    Do you have kids?

    Mine are 10/11.

    They are aware there is such a thing as "gay".

    I dont think at their ages I knew any more than it was a name we called each other.

    I think I remember the moment I realized what gay meant reading a news article about Barney Frank and it dawned on me "He kisses Dudes". That was my awakening of what it meant to be gay failing to really grasp the idea of the Billy Christal character in "Family".

    My kids are 100 percent gay aware and view it as a norm.

    Billy Christal was ground breaking playing a gay man in my childhood time. Based on my kids TV/cultural awareness if I asked them they would probably think 50% of the world is gay.

    I dont teach my kids "lifestyle" other than to say people can do whatever they want as long as it harms no other. Likewise I try to teach them nothing in life is free and you must work to get where you want to be.

    Other parents not so much.

    Whether its trying to live their failed sports prowess through their kids or pushing their social justice agenda through their kids you honestly know that exists.

    Calm your knickers with your shock at my supposition. Its an avenue of investigation and you know it.



    well said
     
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    or maybe she did...
    did mom over excite the so called bullying?
    i find it hard to believe cupcake couldnt take 4 days of shit from school, and i dont think it could have been too bad because the hyper sensitive school system would have done something... they are arresting kids for chewing a peanut butter sandwich into some thing that looks like a pistol for petes sake.
    4 months of ribbing, maybe, not 4 days, it wasnt a vietnam prison camp...
    it smells of family problems


    Kids are brutally fucking evil when they want to be and nothing matters more to a kid than acceptance.
     
    i know, really do

    but 4 fucking days, cmon... he didnt go to camp for 4 days and killed himself...how much unsupervised time do these kids have?
     
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    Bull fucking shit. You're falling into the thinking trap of "Well I did it so everyone else should too."

    I've had more than a few adult friends take their lives or attempt to; mostly in the military. The stigma that being depressed or suicidal makes you weak is what keeps a lot of guys from getting help.

    I wasn't talking about nor did I mention anything about adults limpwrist, other than the week shitheads caving to pressure that are in an authoritative role in the schools.

    My point was simply kids can be cruel especially when not put on their ass when and if they deserve it.

    In response to adults fearing coming forward if they are having mental issues that is nothing new it's just getting more publicity than it used to, everything nowadays is getting more publicized and more notice.

    Does that somehow make it a new phenomenon ?
     
    i know, really do

    but 4 fucking days, cmon... he didnt go to camp for 4 days and killed himself...how much unsupervised time do these kids have?

    Where do kids get these ideas of killing themselves except for in the "white noise" I discussed earlier...

    Holy shit an aside......I kid you not as I sit here a woman is walking in front of me carrying a case of water on her head. Im in Somerville MA but with the heat, humidity of the day and the vision I just got transported back in time to Liberia 1990 ------deja vue!

    Back to my point.......

    Another moment of bright light clarity like my Barney Frank example - a moment of clear understanding of suicide and what it meant. Grade school reading history books about WWII and seeing a picture of a Japanese Kamikaze diving into a US ship. I couldnt fathom that a human would intentionally do this. I didnt understand how they could take the pain of the crash or how they would "live" with being dead. This is my first understanding of what suicide was. It was a last resort of a desperate enemy.

    In the "white noise" of today suicide is a viable remedy - shooters do it, bombers do it, VBIED drivers do it, pop culture figures do it, youtube gamers do it.

    I dont think society is any more fucked up as it has always been its just that with 24/7 news we no longer compress the news into what is really news but every fucking thing that doesnt need to be reported is now used as filler to keep that 24/7 talking head talking.

    In a country of 350+ million 95 percent are doing "normal" things but 24/7 we read, see, and hear about the crazy shit the 5% outliers do. 5% of 350 million is a lot of crazy and its reported so hard and so often it takes over the norm.
     
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    I feel sorry for the kid growing up in such a mixed up world.
    My guess is his mother was so happy that her son was the "gay" so that she could feel all good and righteous to the rest of her virtue signalling SJW looser trash.

    Perverts are projecting their own desires and wishes onto children and messing up their lives.

    Back when I was growing up if as a very young boy you decided to try wearing your sister's dresses for a day or two, nobody made this big fanfare that you were some kind of virtuous hero or tried to live their SJW fantasies off of you. They simply laughed and thought it was cute & waited till you realized what a pain it was to go to the bathroom in a dress & went back to shorts and no shirt.

    Children need structure and to know who they are and who everybody is when they are young, till they have a lot of life experience. This whole pressuring them to "choose" their gender or sexuality is just a cover for trying to lead them to be some mixed up mess so that their parents can crow to the world about what virtuous SJW enlightened people they are, regardless of the very real lifetime psychological harm it does to the children.

    I would bet the poor kid probably wasn't even actually attracted to males in any way, but just thought he was making his stupid SJW mother proud and then when he found out that the whole world didn't think it was the greatest thing he couldn't take it & it sounds like his mother didn't help him either.

    That being said Bullying these days is a bit out of hand and the mob mentality is harsher than ever in these socialist indoctrination camps called schools. It's the communists own plan, go with the mob or get beaten down.
     
    I feel sorry for the kid growing up in such a mixed up world.
    My guess is his mother was so happy that her son was the "gay" so that she could feel all good and righteous to the rest of her virtue signalling SJW looser trash.

    Perverts are projecting their own desires and wishes onto children and messing up their lives.

    Back when I was growing up if as a very young boy you decided to try wearing your sister's dresses for a day or two, nobody made this big fanfare that you were some kind of virtuous hero or tried to live their SJW fantasies off of you. They simply laughed and thought it was cute & waited till you realized what a pain it was to go to the bathroom in a dress & went back to shorts and no shirt.

    Children need structure and to know who they are and who everybody is when they are young, till they have a lot of life experience. This whole pressuring them to "choose" their gender or sexuality is just a cover for trying to lead them to be some mixed up mess so that their parents can crow to the world about what virtuous SJW enlightened people they are, regardless of the very real lifetime psychological harm it does to the children.

    I would bet the poor kid probably wasn't even actually attracted to males in any way, but just thought he was making his stupid SJW mother proud and then when he found out that the whole world didn't think it was the greatest thing he couldn't take it & it sounds like his mother didn't help him either.

    That being said Bullying these days is a bit out of hand and the mob mentality is harsher than ever in these socialist indoctrination camps called schools. It's the communists own plan, go with the mob or get beaten down.

    Liberals promote a "diversity" of "conformity".
     
    Kids are brutally fucking evil when they want to be and nothing matters more to a kid than acceptance.

    The level of brutality is only worsening because kids are not disciplined at school, home nor are the bullied allowed to kick the shit out of the bully without getting into trouble themselves. This societal lack of discipline is leading to a generation of sociopaths.
     
    The level of brutality is only worsening because kids are not disciplined at school, home nor are the bullied allowed to kick the shit out of the bully without getting into trouble themselves. This societal lack of discipline is leading to a generation of sociopaths.

    A Marine Corps General that played a big time role as a Major at Khe Sahn once said "there is nothing more brutal than an 18 yo Marine with his KaBar".

    He was referencing trained, disciplined, military men fighting against an enemy.

    He was wrong.

    Ignorant, undisciplined, sadistic, indoctrinated children are to be feared by anyone within a 360 degree location. No impulse control and no care for consequences. They are most brutal when they realize there are no consequences.

    There is a reason why crazy recruits child soldiers.
     
    I feel sorry for the kid growing up in such a mixed up world.
    My guess is his mother was so happy that her son was the "gay" so that she could feel all good and righteous to the rest of her virtue signalling SJW looser trash.

    Perverts are projecting their own desires and wishes onto children and messing up their lives.

    Back when I was growing up if as a very young boy you decided to try wearing your sister's dresses for a day or two, nobody made this big fanfare that you were some kind of virtuous hero or tried to live their SJW fantasies off of you. They simply laughed and thought it was cute & waited till you realized what a pain it was to go to the bathroom in a dress & went back to shorts and no shirt.

    Children need structure and to know who they are and who everybody is when they are young, till they have a lot of life experience. This whole pressuring them to "choose" their gender or sexuality is just a cover for trying to lead them to be some mixed up mess so that their parents can crow to the world about what virtuous SJW enlightened people they are, regardless of the very real lifetime psychological harm it does to the children.

    I would bet the poor kid probably wasn't even actually attracted to males in any way, but just thought he was making his stupid SJW mother proud and then when he found out that the whole world didn't think it was the greatest thing he couldn't take it & it sounds like his mother didn't help him either.

    That being said Bullying these days is a bit out of hand and the mob mentality is harsher than ever in these socialist indoctrination camps called schools. It's the communists own plan, go with the mob or get beaten down.

    That's a huge amount of made up conjecture just to ignore that shitty parents are raising shitty kids that do shitty things.

    The fact of the matter this would never make it on the Hide if it wasn't for the fact the kid was gay.

    You old guys have this romanticized notion that if only the kid was able to stand up and punch his bully in the nose that everything would magically be better.

    Bullies don't punch up. They don't punch across either. They punch down and they punch down in groups. You know what happens when a kid stands up? He gets his ass fucking beat. Badly.

    Very seldom does the scrawny kid land a good punch..and when he does, the other little shits mommy is right there making excuses for he sociopathic little fuck and suing the district for not protecting her precious little angel.

    You want to be fucking heart broken and disgusted? Just do a Google search of child suicides. It's not because of the secret liberal agenda. It's because parents refuse to believe that their little child is a pathological fuck. And these kids often use social media so that it's virtually impossible to escape it; you don't get to go home and be safe anymore.

    Do a google search of Ashawnty Davis. 2 parent household. Stood up to her bully and got her ass kicked and the other little kids shared it all over social media. You can watch the video too. The bullying didn't stop because she stood up...it only intensified. Little 10 year old girl went home and hung herself.
     
    I've seen this. I met a woman who had a kid with a POS when she was 17 or something and then figured out she was gay/bi. Her son was all kinds of screwed up. He wore a tutu, kept getting kicked out of school and smoked cigarettes. Guess what mom was upset about? Cigarettes.

    That's what happens when your mom has a parade of bull dykes and men in dresses coming over to screw her.

    I could easily see that kid killing himself. He was setting himself up for ridicule, had no decent male role models in his life and serious psychological issues that were going unchecked.

    It would be more surprising if a kid could grow up like that and survive.
     
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    Admitted bullying the Parkland shooter......

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    Darling of the media.

    My bad she didnt bully, she ostracized.
     
    Social media is a big part of the disease of this country pushed by the Communists to destroy the youth & as many others as they can.
    If the bullies run in packs... just wait till they have to use the bathroom. Every bully one day finds himself alone in the bathroom.

    Kids need to be taught to stand up for their own beliefs and despise the stupid sheep. It takes way more work these days to fight against the communist propaganda, but it can be done. A good part of parenting however is strictly limiting and monitoring communications, internet usage & media watching. It's much easier to accomplish with a strong religious upbringing, but can be done without it, just a bit more work.
     
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    That's a huge amount of made up conjecture just to ignore that shitty parents are raising shitty kids that do shitty things.

    The fact of the matter this would never make it on the Hide if it wasn't for the fact the kid was gay.

    You old guys have this romanticized notion that if only the kid was able to stand up and punch his bully in the nose that everything would magically be better.

    Bullies don't punch up. They don't punch across either. They punch down and they punch down in groups. You know what happens when a kid stands up? He gets his ass fucking beat. Badly.

    Very seldom does the scrawny kid land a good punch..and when he does, the other little shits mommy is right there making excuses for he sociopathic little fuck and suing the district for not protecting her precious little angel.

    You want to be fucking heart broken and disgusted? Just do a Google search of child suicides. It's not because of the secret liberal agenda. It's because parents refuse to believe that their little child is a pathological fuck. And these kids often use social media so that it's virtually impossible to escape it; you don't get to go home and be safe anymore.

    Do a google search of Ashawnty Davis. 2 parent household. Stood up to her bully and got her ass kicked and the other little kids shared it all over social media. You can watch the video too. The bullying didn't stop because she stood up...it only intensified. Little 10 year old girl went home and hung herself.[/QUOTE



    There is no way a 9 year old kid just suddenly came to the conclusion he was gay without having his young impressionable mind poisoned by a sick excuse of a parent or the never ending push to shove this shit on society to just accept it in spades and don't question it or your evil.

    The purpose of this thread was to bring attention to an outright tragedy and I don't intend to play along with you trying to turn it into a travesty and a pissing match to feed your anger or ego or whatever. THAT seems to be your MO every time I see you posting in one of these threads and wonder if you have really thought about if you are really doing any good for anyone including yourself.
     
    A Marine Corps General that played a big time role as a Major at Khe Sahn once said "there is nothing more brutal than an 18 yo Marine with his KaBar".

    He was referencing trained, disciplined, military men fighting against an enemy.

    He was wrong.

    Ignorant, undisciplined, sadistic, indoctrinated children are to be feared by anyone within a 360 degree location. No impulse control and no care for consequences. They are most brutal when they realize there are no consequences.

    There is a reason why crazy recruits child soldiers.

    yes, and physcopaths arent always adults, but im still wondering about the 4 days bit, how could they talk him into that that fast...
    maybe his mom had hi talked there halfway?
     
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    About the four days, I bet his mom was worried about something else, like the woman worried about cigarettes.
     
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    That's a huge amount of made up conjecture just to ignore that shitty parents are raising shitty kids that do shitty things.

    The fact of the matter this would never make it on the Hide if it wasn't for the fact the kid was gay.

    You old guys have this romanticized notion that if only the kid was able to stand up and punch his bully in the nose that everything would magically be better.

    Bullies don't punch up. They don't punch across either. They punch down and they punch down in groups. You know what happens when a kid stands up? He gets his ass fucking beat. Badly.

    Very seldom does the scrawny kid land a good punch..and when he does, the other little shits mommy is right there making excuses for he sociopathic little fuck and suing the district for not protecting her precious little angel.

    You want to be fucking heart broken and disgusted? Just do a Google search of child suicides. It's not because of the secret liberal agenda. It's because parents refuse to believe that their little child is a pathological fuck. And these kids often use social media so that it's virtually impossible to escape it; you don't get to go home and be safe anymore.

    Do a google search of Ashawnty Davis. 2 parent household. Stood up to her bully and got her ass kicked and the other little kids shared it all over social media. You can watch the video too. The bullying didn't stop because she stood up...it only intensified. Little 10 year old girl went home and hung herself.

    You are speaking in a HUGE generality about bullies, their dynamics and the bullied getting their asses beaten when they stand up for themselves. I am older but when I was in school EVERY SINGLE bully got their asses kicked, and kicked badly, by a smaller kid they picked on. I saw it happen to each on of them, repeatedly for the dumb ones. Is that the norm, probably not but neither is your absolute statement either.

    Bullying is taking a huge toll on kids, on the bullied and the bully because life kicks the shit out of bullies later on and karma always gets hers. In my opinion the appropriate people are not punished in the case of bullies. The parents of these little assholes should be held fully accountable for their kids actions AND they should be punished swiftly and accordingly. The punishment should not happen on the tenth report but on the first.
     
    Bull fucking shit. You're falling into the thinking trap of "Well I did it so everyone else should too."

    I've had more than a few adult friends take their lives or attempt to; mostly in the military. The stigma that being depressed or suicidal makes you weak is what keeps a lot of guys from getting help.

    Bull shit, you are falling into the trap of blaming everyone else for what one person did. It is important to find to the reason a child can't deal with problems. Attempting to move all problems out of their way is counter productive. If you can't take getting made fun of, there is something wrong with you. At 9, you are little more than what your parents have taught you and allowed you to learn.

    {Not old} If these kids were taught and allowed to stand up to and fix their own problems, it sure as fuck would not hurt.

    You can't blame shitty parents for bullying, then absolve all shitty parents in the case of suicide. They are two heads of the same problem.
     
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    Political interest groups love a good martyr for their cause.

    Last week it was Mollie Tibbets.

    This week it's this poor child.

    Parenting is responsible for this tragedy not bullying. Almost every kid gets bullied. A good parent would help their child overcome bullying, not reaffirm their child's victim status. Also a good parent wouldn't encourage a 9 year old to express their sexuality of any persuasion. 9 years old is too young to make proclamations of one's sexual orientations.

    Also how does a 9 year old even contemplate suicide? Or their sexuality? Parenting, or lack thereof mixed in with an unhealthy dose of social justice impregnated cartoons and children's shows.
     
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    Im guessing he was bullied before and now it was over the top.

    I was bullied a ton as a kid. I understand the down and depressed feelings, even at a very young age.

    I have gay friends who have told me they knew they were different at a very young age and I think this kiddo was trying to make mom happy.
    Lack of a father figure is huge.
     
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    Political interest groups love a good martyr for their cause.

    Last week it was Mollie Tibbets.

    This week it's this poor child.

    Parenting is responsible for this tragedy not bullying. Almost every kid gets bullied. A good parent would help their child overcome bullying, not reaffirm their child's victim status. Also a good parent wouldn't encourage a 9 year old to express their sexuality of any persuasion. 9 years old it too young to make proclamations of one's sexual orientations.

    Also how does a 9 year old even contemplate suicide? Or their sexuality? Parenting, or lack thereof mixed in with a unhealthy dose of social justice impregnated cartoons and children's shows.


    i agree
     
    So seriously, what’s more troubling?

    Kid gets bullied because he says he’s gay (bullies suck)?
    Little kid thinks he’s gay? (Look up the stats on children who think their gay still following the decision into adulthood)?
    Kid overcome with hopelessness and kills himself (no trust in anyone in his environment to help him deal with the bullies)?

    Anyone think that the mom killed the kid and made the whole story up?
     
    So seriously, what’s more troubling?

    Kid gets bullied because he says he’s gay (bullies suck)?
    Little kid thinks he’s gay? (Look up the stats on children who think their gay still following the decision into adulthood)?
    Kid overcome with hopelessness and kills himself (no trust in anyone in his environment to help him deal with the bullies)?

    Anyone think that the mom killed the kid and made the whole story up?

    What's most troubling in my eyes is these millennial parents who feel the whole gay and transgender thing is the hip thing to do and are forcing it upon their young children. I've read stories about parents who have allowed their 4 and 5 year old kids be transgender and it makes me out to be like the minority because I feel that's totally fucked up to do to a kid that young, but yet society says that's perfectly fine. And keep in mind I myself am a millennial parent so it does hit close to home. As a parent of young kids, you can NOT take what they say seriously at a young age. They look at a bird and want to be a bird. They see a fairy princess on TV and wanna be a fairy princess. They see a dog walk by and wanna be a dog. Etc. If you take your young son to a toy store and he wants a toy that's meant for a girl to play with, you can't automatically think he's gay or a tranny. Get him the toy, he'll play with it, and then get bored with it and play something else. Maybe that's why people say parenting is so hard nowadays because parenting requires common sense and common sense has been seriously lacking over the past decade.
     
    What's most troubling in my eyes is these millennial parents who feel the whole gay and transgender thing is the hip thing to do and are forcing it upon their young children. I've read stories about parents who have allowed their 4 and 5 year old kids be transgender and it makes me out to be like the minority because I feel that's totally fucked up to do to a kid that young, but yet society says that's perfectly fine. And keep in mind I myself am a millennial parent so it does hit close to home. As a parent of young kids, you can NOT take what they say seriously at a young age. They look at a bird and want to be a bird. They see a fairy princess on TV and wanna be a fairy princess. They see a dog walk by and wanna be a dog. Etc. If you take your young son to a toy store and he wants a toy that's meant for a girl to play with, you can't automatically think he's gay or a tranny. Get him the toy, he'll play with it, and then get bored with it and play something else. Maybe that's why people say parenting is so hard nowadays because parenting requires common sense and common sense has been seriously lacking over the past decade.
    Following that example, I would have grown up to be a stegosaurs.
     
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    Political interest groups love a good martyr for their cause.

    Last week it was Mollie Tibbets.

    This week it's this poor child.

    Parenting is responsible for this tragedy not bullying. Almost every kid gets bullied. A good parent would help their child overcome bullying, not reaffirm their child's victim status. Also a good parent wouldn't encourage a 9 year old to express their sexuality of any persuasion. 9 years old it too young to make proclamations of one's sexual orientations.

    Also how does a 9 year old even contemplate suicide? Or their sexuality? Parenting, or lack thereof mixed in with a unhealthy dose of social justice impregnated cartoons and children's shows.




    I've read all of the above posts on this thread,and all the different opinions,and at the end of the day another innocent childs life is taken because of Hate.
    Bottom line is,bad parents,bad parenting,lack of discipline,divorced parents,social media leads to bad kids a lot of the time
    Kids will mimic what parents do. therefore the child pays for the father's sins.
    The fucking world is in Hospice and very few give a damn.

    If parents don't start bringing God into the home,what else is left?
     
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