Would you...

Yes....get a Casio Pathfinder Tough Solar and don't worry about beating the crap out of it....plus your NOD's.

You already know the answer, and the answer is yes!! Yes, sell the watch get the NODs

The Rolex won’t do squat in a bad situation. The NODS......

I have a Rolex explorer and a Omega seamaster. They are works of art, functional works of art. If you can afford both then keep both. When i was younger i had a Rolex datejust 18k and i got married and life happend and i pawned it.... then i regretted it for a long time. Your watch is a status symbol and should cost 3 months salary. Im pretty sure most people on this site could wear a paneri or daytona not problem. Im happy with my james bond special lol.

Stainless Rolex are meh. They’re not very “status-y” IMO.

Dump it at the dealer and get NODs. No one will trade NODs for a Rolex, but many here have tried to trade their Rolex for NODs. That alone should tell you something.

Sell your watch on a watch board, then visit a bonafide Hide supporter for your NODs.

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take Horta’s advice above then replace the watch with a Luminox.....mo better for keeping time during NV and thermal activities.....and general hunting as you can lay down the phone for checking the time. Sure helped me not getting lit up this past deer season not phone checking for the 30 minute after dark hunting deadline.

I sold my Speedmaster Moon Watch after it had to go back to Omega for a full rebuild for the third time in 11-12 years. As soon as it was back and like new I dumped it and picked up a new Beretta clays guns I had been wanting for a while. I haven't missed it once and now I am considering dumping a few more that don't get worn in order to put that money to better use. When I was younger I cared about all of that dick measuring BS, I rarely wear a watch these days and if I do it's not something I want to care about in any way. Sell and get the next toy, I doubt you'll miss it.

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Texasflyer said:

I have a Rolex explorer and a Omega seamaster. They are works of art, functional works of art. If you can afford both then keep both. When i was younger i had a Rolex datejust 18k and i got married and life happend and i pawned it.... then i regretted it for a long time. Your watch is a status symbol and should cost 3 months salary. Im pretty sure most people on this site could wear a paneri or daytona not problem. Im happy with my james bond special lol.

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Some people’s monthly salaries are more than others.

It depends.

While I think that specific Rolex version is what I refer to as 'hiding in plain sight' as it looks like every other stainless watch on the planet, I'm also not sure if you need NV.

The problem I run into is people want NV because its cool and 'think of all the shit I can do with this' and then never do any of it, or get bogged down realizing that you now also need a helmet, full power PEQ and other shit on top of the realization that you barely know how to combat shoot during the day and are literally a fumbling bumbling mess in the dark. Everything is different and at a different speed during the night and noone realizes it as they think they'll just get NV and that'll solve everything because they can see.

So like I said, it depends.

Plus, the best looking Rolex is a Datejust with either an Oyster or Presidential band (depends on the overall watch), white gold everything, mother of pearl face, pave diamond bezel with either sapphires at the 12/3/6/9 or sapphires on the hour markers.

TheGerman said:

It depends.

While I think that specific Rolex version is what I refer to as 'hiding in plain sight' as it looks like every other stainless watch on the planet, I'm also not sure if you need NV.

The problem I run into is people want NV because its cool and 'think of all the shit I can do with this' and then never do any of it, or get bogged down realizing that you now also need a helmet, full power PEQ and other shit on top of the realization that you barely know how to combat shoot during the day and are literally a fumbling bumbling mess in the dark. Everything is different and at a different speed during the night and noone realizes it as they think they'll just get NV and that'll solve everything because they can see.

So like I said, it depends.

Plus, the best looking Rolex is a Datejust with either an Oyster or Presidential band (depends on the overall watch), white gold everything, mother of pearl face, pave diamond bezel with either sapphires at the 12/3/6/9 or sapphires on the hour markers.

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How many biznatchez you pimpin?

Choid said:

How many biznatchez you pimpin?

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Yes.

I'm thinking I should move from CONUS contracting to overseas so I can move into the higher class "poors" hotel. I couldn't even think about this stuff when I was active (except for the deployment savings program) but that was expended quickly when I would party like a rockstar for a day after getting back from a deployment and then go back to being broke.

stefan73 said:

I'm thinking I should move from CONUS contracting to overseas so I can move into the higher class "poors" hotel. I couldn't even think about this stuff when I was active (except for the deployment savings program) but that was expended quickly when I would party like a rockstar for a day after getting back from a deployment and then go back to being broke.

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CONUS contracting is basically a union job.

OCONUS gives you a significantly higher base rate and depending on your job and TDY, you either get that sweet sweet HOLA COLA cash or the legendary hazard/hardship stacking differential.

Texasflyer said:

I have a Rolex explorer and a Omega seamaster. They are works of art, functional works of art. If you can afford both then keep both. When i was younger i had a Rolex datejust 18k and i got married and life happend and i pawned it.... then i regretted it for a long time. Your watch is a status symbol and should cost 3 months salary. Im pretty sure most people on this site could wear a paneri or daytona not problem. Im happy with my james bond special lol.

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The hilarious thing is I mostly wear a GShock thats on its 3rd band.

I got a suunto advizor that ended up on my wrist for an afghanistan trip in 03. It needs a new battery, but worked fine before the battery died. I had a set of gen3 pvs 14s that I swore I’d use all the time. Reality is I didn’t care to shoot in the dark that much, so the NV stuff went buh bye. Truth be told, I don’t miss it, BUT do think about a thermal from time to time for slaying wild heathen cats on the back of the property.

TheGerman said:

CONUS contracting is basically a union job.

OCONUS gives you a significantly higher base rate and depending on your job and TDY, you either get that sweet sweet HOLA COLA cash or the legendary hazard/hardship stacking differential.

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I hate the idea of having to pay my dues with fixed site (other than good gym time at a fixed site) before moving to mobile security. It is something I could get over but Household 6 doesn't like the idea of overseas contracting especially pushing 120 day+ stints, having kids and a small farm.

I should probably look into the GS realm, good stability, quick steps (relatively), will still have to pay my dues.

stefan73 said:

I hate the idea of having to pay my dues with fixed site (other than good gym time at a fixed site) before moving to mobile security. It is something I could get over but Household 6 doesn't like the idea of overseas contracting especially pushing 120 day+ stints, having kids and a small farm.

I should probably look into the GS realm, good stability, quick steps (relatively), will still have to pay my dues.

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Yep its timing. The guys who have been over a bunch mostly got in prior to a surge when PMCs were told by the Prime that they needed to fill some retarded number of billets literally today. Every day that passed was a day where the contract could end up with a MOD on it and having billable slots shifted somewhere else.

So the requirements were played fast and loose on a lot of guys who would have qualified, but not for what the level of position they were filling. But who cares because guy gets paid, contractor gets to bill some retarded hourly rate for him and everyone's happy. This is also how you ended up with shit like police with zero .mil or combat experience over there or the E2 who did 4 years of literally nothing of note in the Army all of a sudden with a job over there.

Most of those guys either got peered out (everyone's being mean to me, Im going home!), cut on a contract MOD and then not picked up by a PMC there with new/open billets or got their shit together.

Unless we end up actually trying to win something for a change, or end up somewhere else, you're basically stuck doing what you said you need to do and sit on CONUS jobs until its 'your turn'. The first prerequisite for most OCONUS stuff now is....OCONUS experience. And thats before all the technical shit you need to qualify for. So yeah.

On another note, whats with the 120 day deployments? When I went it was 9+ months to a year. Does that mean I don't just have 3 Afghanistan rotations, but something like 15? lol Is there were some of the SOC guys are getting their retarded high deployment numbers from?

Get what you want to enjoy.

That being said, from a long term investment standpoint, the Rolex will probably maintain it's value or increase while the NODs will slowly devalue over time as technology and such changes.

Like anyone here is going to tell you not to buy NODS....

I say fuck the watch, send it packing, I have a cell phone for that. I would definitely get the new toy and I wouldn't lose a minutes wort of sleep over it..

BuildingConceptsllc said:

Like anyone here is going to tell you not to buy NODS....

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Exactly!! Though I say to make it interesting you should pose a similar question on a Rolex forum. Doesn’t have to reveal that you want to buy NODs with the Rolex sale, but that you want to purchase a piece of equipment that you would like to have for a great hobby of yours. Talley the number of replies you get back that are adamant about you retaining the Rolex verses selling it from both forums. Whichever decision is supported the most you go with. Let us know the results so we can enjoy knowing we helped influence your decision.

BuildingConceptsllc said:

Like anyone here is going to tell you not to buy NODS....

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Exactly! Though I say to make it interesting you should pose a similar question on a Rolex forum. Doesn’t have to reveal that you want to buy NODs with the Rolex sale, but that you want to purchase a piece of equipment that you would like to have for a great hobby of yours. Talley the number of replies you get back that are adamant about you retaining the Rolex verses selling it from both forums. Whichever decision is supported the most you go with. Let us know the results so we can enjoy knowing we helped influence your decision.

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TheGerman said:

The hilarious thing is I mostly wear a GShock thats on its 3rd band.

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I like to keep it classy

BuildingConceptsllc said:

Like anyone here is going to tell you not to buy NODS....

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That real question is...what kind.

Texasflyer said:

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I like to keep it classy

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Needs more diamond bezel.

TheGerman said:

Needs more diamond bezel.

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I had one in my younger days. A datejust with a presidential bezzel. Boy i was gonna rule the world then lol. The stainless rolex is my everyday beater and the 1956 omega seamaster is my bbq or dress watch. The mark of quality is both have their original bands still.

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Yep its timing. The guys who have been over a bunch mostly got in prior to a surge when PMCs were told by the Prime that they needed to fill some retarded number of billets literally today. Every day that passed was a day where the contract could end up with a MOD on it and having billable slots shifted somewhere else.

So the requirements were played fast and loose on a lot of guys who would have qualified, but not for what the level of position they were filling. But who cares because guy gets paid, contractor gets to bill some retarded hourly rate for him and everyone's happy. This is also how you ended up with shit like police with zero .mil or combat experience over there or the E2 who did 4 years of literally nothing of note in the Army all of a sudden with a job over there.

Most of those guys either got peered out (everyone's being mean to me, Im going home!), cut on a contract MOD and then not picked up by a PMC there with new/open billets or got their shit together.

Unless we end up actually trying to win something for a change, or end up somewhere else, you're basically stuck doing what you said you need to do and sit on CONUS jobs until its 'your turn'. The first prerequisite for most OCONUS stuff now is....OCONUS experience. And thats before all the technical shit you need to qualify for. So yeah.

On another note, whats with the 120 day deployments? When I went it was 9+ months to a year. Does that mean I don't just have 3 Afghanistan rotations, but something like 15? lol Is there were some of the SOC guys are getting their retarded high deployment numbers from?

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120 day rotations is for certain contractor jobs not active military jobs. The 9 month to 12 to 18 is for active military. Chairforce was doing 6 month stints. I think SOF was also but my rotations never cleanly lined up with theirs so they could have been doing longer?

swage2712 said:

I have a Stainless Rolex Submariner I recently had to send back for a broken main spring. While it was there I elected to get the full spa treatment with new clasp, bezel, etc. Now that it's back I haven't worn it. I was thinking of selling it and buying my first set of NODS. Truthfully I don't have to sell it to fund my purchase. Just trying to replace a high dollar item I can live without for another high dollar item that I think I'd get more joy out of. I'm not a watch collector and the Rolex sports watches seem to have exploded in value recently. I understand that the goggles are just part of the expense, albeit the biggest cost of admission.

Would you do it?

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Being a watch fanatic and NV fanatic and someone who has owned the high end of both, I would absolutely NOT trade a Rolex for NV. Whatever NV you buy right now will be worth half that in 10 years. That Rolex, at this pace, likely worth double.

I find I’m using NV more than a watch these days. It was hands down the best piece of kit I’ve bought yet. I’d rather have one dependable rifle and NV than a dozen rifles and/or a Rolex.

Is wearing a watch still a thing? Havnt worn a watch for ? Longer than I can remember.

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I'm trying to be smart about my spending. We had a house fire in August and it was a total loss. The "basement savers," .....errrr I mean firemen, did a majority of the damage.

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I resent that. We don’t just save basements; we save chimneys too!

Watch is a status symbol? I wear a fitbit versa 2 that I paid $40 for on facebook marketplace.

I'd sell it and invest the money. Market is down huge early today - you could buy a car with the $ down the road.

patriot07 said:

Watch is a status symbol? I wear a fitbit versa 2 that I paid $40 for on facebook marketplace.

I'd sell it and invest the money. Market is down huge early today - you could buy a car with the $ down the road.

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10 years from today you will have lost more money on your fit bit purchase than he will from keeping the Rolex.

Burdy said:

10 years from today you will have lost more money on your fit bit purchase than he will from keeping the Rolex.

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I'll have way more from my investment than he will in the Rolex.

if you work with the younger crowd at all the Rolex is much much less of a "status symbol" with them speaking as one.
i dont give a flying bleep what your watch is because i have never looked at one that was not a smartphone and probably couldn't tell the difference between your rolex and any other cheap watch masquerading around as expensive anyways.


Long story short... Buy the NODS and LARP around in your backyard like the cool kids at least you will have a blast!

Do it!

Texasflyer said:

Your watch is a status symbol and should cost 3 months salary.

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This statement gave me Forest Whitaker eye.

Status symbol?

wow. I don't even own a watch. I suppose that makes me a peasant. lol

If a Rolex is a status symbol for you, then likely so is your Schmidt and Bender. Some people buy stuff for themselves, other buy stuff so they can show off to other people. The bottom line is that Rolex's have been historically appreciating, significantly I might add, for quite some time. NV does not. So the smartest play from a financial perspective is absolutely do not sell a Rolex for NV. Some folks don't understand why a ZCO is better than a Razor, they can't see and understand the craftsmanship. Both scopes shoot, both hold zero, but one is appreciated by those with a good eye and discernment for quality. The same exact thing can be said for a Rolex.

orkan said:

This statement gave me Forest Whitaker eye.

Status symbol?

wow. I don't even own a watch. I suppose that makes me a peasant. lol

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I run a buisness where time is a key factor. When i show up on location the company man knows i care about time, i bet you show up places late and make people wait on you. A guy wearing a 7000 dollar watch shouldnt be late, just like a guy with a 10000 rifle shouldnt be asking how to hit paper at 100. So yeah its a status symbol that shows i care about being on time. Hope your stroke isnt too bad, cant wait to see you in ghost dog 2.

I played around in the high end watch game for a few years, oil field engineering work pretty much breeds that interest with the younger crowd. I appreciate the craftsmanship and attention to detail but I am simply no longer interested in watches and I have grown to hate wearing jewelry over time. I still have my great uncle's original Milgauss which continues to appreciate in value and a Panerai that I find to be a better watch than your standard entry level Rolex. I've always wanted to own a Patek at some point but it's definitely not high on the list of wants at the moment. I had a lot of issues with my Omega so I'd be hard pressed to ever buy one again. Rolex and Omega are great starting points for higher end watch collectors but by no means do I look at a man wearing a Rolex and think more of him and/or his status lol, but sadly we have a lot of superficial people in this world that do.

TheGerman said:

It depends.

While I think that specific Rolex version is what I refer to as 'hiding in plain sight' as it looks like every other stainless watch on the planet, I'm also not sure if you need NV.

The problem I run into is people want NV because its cool and 'think of all the shit I can do with this' and then never do any of it, or get bogged down realizing that you now also need a helmet, full power PEQ and other shit on top of the realization that you barely know how to combat shoot during the day and are literally a fumbling bumbling mess in the dark. Everything is different and at a different speed during the night and noone realizes it as they think they'll just get NV and that'll solve everything because they can see.

So like I said, it depends.

Plus, the best looking Rolex is a Datejust with either an Oyster or Presidential band (depends on the overall watch), white gold everything, mother of pearl face, pave diamond bezel with either sapphires at the 12/3/6/9 or sapphires on the hour markers.

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And.......the longer you keep the Rolex, at a minimum, the greater the retained value, if not outright appreciation.

Should i trade the mona lisa for an i phone 9?

Texasflyer said:

i bet you show up places late and make people wait on you.

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So because I don't waste my money on vain status symbols, I can't tell time? lol What a pitiful mindset.

No one EVER waits on me. Ever. So you're dead wrong. I have a phone... it tells me the time. My kestrel tells me the time. My computer tells me the time. My truck tells me the time. There are dozens of devices around me all day long that can tell me the time. I can even set reminders in many of them, that further help me with the time. Some even have calendars in them, further helping me. All else fails, I can look in the sky and tell time well enough to be where I need to be, before I'm needed to be there.

You don't get to tell me that your watch is a status symbol, and then tell me it's the "time" that's important. Whenever I see an expensive watch, I see man jewelry and someone trying to posture and telegraph their wealth. Not to mention making themselves a target. If your customers' time was the thing that is important, you'd just show up early enough for ultra-precise time to not matter to them or you.

If I hire someone, and they demonstrate they like to waste money on vain things... it just shows me they could offer the same services for a lower price if they weren't busy trying to keep up with the Jones'. When I was 22 years old, I had a $12,000 breitling for a while. Oh, yeah... I really thought I was something. Then by the time I was 24, I grew up and understood that my deeds are my status symbols. That whole jewelry as a "status symbol" thing is a form of mental illness, and the pursuit of that greed is at the heart of many very dark things. If a guy wants to diversify his investments and protect his wealth, and uses jewelry as a part of that strategy... fine.

However, I feel a great sense of pity for a man that judges the worth of another man or that of himself by the price of the watch he has on his wrist.

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If I hire someone, and they demonstrate they like to waste money on vain things... it just shows me they could offer the same services for a lower price if they weren't busy trying to keep up with the Jones'.

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1. I waited on you for 20 mins to reply lol. Maybe it took you that long to come up with a reply,
2 not everybody pays for their rolex, my first one was from my grandfather and i dealt with judgy cheapskate fakes like you for a long time over it.
3 I earned my buisness for being precise and always on time, YOU dont get to judge me. Every time peice you quoted will be worth pennies on the dollar in 5 years.... but your the smart one.

orkan said:

So because I don't waste my money on vain status symbols, I can't tell time? lol What a pitiful mindset.

No one EVER waits on me. Ever. So you're dead wrong. I have a phone... it tells me the time. My kestrel tells me the time. My computer tells me the time. My truck tells me the time. There are dozens of devices around me all day long that can tell me the time. I can even set reminders in many of them, that further help me with the time. Some even have calendars in them, further helping me. All else fails, I can look in the sky and tell time well enough to be where I need to be, before I'm needed to be there.

You don't get to tell me that your watch is a status symbol, and then tell me it's the "time" that's important. Whenever I see an expensive watch, I see man jewelry and someone trying to posture and telegraph their wealth. Not to mention making themselves a target. If your customers' time was the thing that is important, you'd just show up early enough for ultra-precise time to not matter to them or you.

If I hire someone, and they demonstrate they like to waste money on vain things... it just shows me they could offer the same services for a lower price if they weren't busy trying to keep up with the Jones'. When I was 22 years old, I had a $12,000 breitling for a while. Oh, yeah... I really thought I was something. Then by the time I was 24, I grew up and understood that my deeds are my status symbols. That whole jewelry as a "status symbol" thing is a form of mental illness, and the pursuit of that greed is at the heart of many very dark things. If a guy wants to diversify his investments and protect his wealth, and uses jewelry as a part of that strategy... fine.

However, I feel a great sense of pity for a man that judges the worth of another man or that of himself by the price of the watch he has on his wrist.

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You do realize exactly what you are accusing him of is exactly what you are doing correct?

Ditch the Rolex. If it's a 16610 or 14060, I don't see the value climbing much higher in the near-term.

If you're going to do OCONUS work, try to find something that's 331+ days so you don't pay taxes. Depending on your experience/clearance/etc you might be able to find a 6/6 with a good uplift. There are still some 6/12 contracts out there, too.