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Is something going on in Ukraine?

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Na, looks like a Mi-24
Paint job looks odd because it's 'digitally modified' , someone just painted it over

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One thing we seeing so far is that Kamov's coaxial rotor arrangement is handling hits far better than Hind . Both in Ukraine and Syria
 
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Just something I can not overlook as easily the sheep.

We are aiding a pupet president that has open dirty money dealings with the Clinton's, biden, fauci and soros ?

And all the sheeple can see is bad commie ?

Most people literally cannot accept the idea of a war between two "bad guys". Gotta pick a side and cheerlead them on to victory! It simply does not compute that there might be more nuance to this situation than can be explained via sports metaphors.

It's complicated by the fact that politics in the US is primarily operated on the assumption that one party takes the lead in establishing a position on an issue, and then the loyal opposition does its thing by simply picking a stance 180º apart from that. In all things related to projection of force, this worked pretty well in the US when we had neocons who got a hard-on over any use of military force, and old-school Democrats who could pretend to be anti-war (note that both sides were still bought-and-paid-for by the defense industry contractors). Once Trump took power and a fairly wide swath of conservatives followed, the default position of each side is no longer valid.

Further complicating factors is the lack of a single trusted source in media, so there's little ability to project a compelling storyline via this mechanism.

This is why there is no clear narrative, and the sheep (who exist on both sides in large numbers) get very confused when not presented with a black-and-white message.
 
Most people literally cannot accept the idea of a war between two "bad guys". Gotta pick a side and cheerlead them on to victory! It simply does not compute that there might be more nuance to this situation than can be explained via sports metaphors.

It's complicated by the fact that politics in the US is primarily operated on the assumption that one party takes the lead in establishing a position on an issue, and then the loyal opposition does its thing by simply picking a stance 180º apart from that. In all things related to projection of force, this worked pretty well in the US when we had neocons who got a hard-on over any use of military force, and old-school Democrats who could pretend to be anti-war (note that both sides were still bought-and-paid-for by the defense industry contractors). Once Trump took power and a fairly wide swath of conservatives followed, the default position of each side is no longer valid.

Further complicating factors is the lack of a single trusted source in media, so there's little ability to project a compelling storyline via this mechanism.

This is why there is no clear narrative, and the sheep (who exist on both sides in large numbers) get very confused when not presented with a black-and-white message.
that's true but like iran iraq war, I wanted it to go on and on and on, kill each other!
 
Most people literally cannot accept the idea of a war between two "bad guys". Gotta pick a side and cheerlead them on to victory! It simply does not compute that there might be more nuance to this situation than can be explained via sports metaphors.

It's complicated by the fact that politics in the US is primarily operated on the assumption that one party takes the lead in establishing a position on an issue, and then the loyal opposition does its thing by simply picking a stance 180º apart from that. In all things related to projection of force, this worked pretty well in the US when we had neocons who got a hard-on over any use of military force, and old-school Democrats who could pretend to be anti-war (note that both sides were still bought-and-paid-for by the defense industry contractors). Once Trump took power and a fairly wide swath of conservatives followed, the default position of each side is no longer valid.

Further complicating factors is the lack of a single trusted source in media, so there's little ability to project a compelling storyline via this mechanism.

This is why there is no clear narrative, and the sheep (who exist on both sides in large numbers) get very confused when not presented with a black-and-white message.
Basically you called the world populace myopic, self-centered, one-dimensional in their ability to process information and generally stupid. Noting how quickly they fell into accepting all of the BLM and Covid narratives and then just leap frogged right into this next piece of drama to rally around I think you are correct in you assessment.

The real tragedy we have here is that by and large we are a global village of morons that others manipulate as nothing more than willing marionettes. The psyop gurus in the Nazi regime evidently were correct in how gullible mankind can be.
 
This is turning out to be quite the sh#t-show. I'm not, in any way, a Putin supporter, but, I truly get why he wants Ukraine back. He doesn't want Bio-labs anywhere close to his country. Especially, one's funded by the U.S., or, any other actors with nefarious intentions. He's treating his country, like we would treat our property/community and hopefully, our country..
The whole situation is just F'n sad for all those involved.
I'm waiting for Zolinski to drop a truth bomb on the big guy, telling him, send me weapons, ammo, missiles, etc.., or I'm let'n the cat out of the bag!
I think our powers that be, wants to see Zolinski come up "missing", and hope like hell, he don't have a couple of Thumb Drives floating around with some pertinent dates/names/ bank accounts on them. Mac



Are you some sort of Russian troll? Or just ignorant?

The Soviet and now Russian bio weapon program is and was extensive.

 
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Leave the best ideas to CNN pundits:ROFLMAO: waiting for them to suggest Ukrainians start making radioactive defensive berms

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Passive... these people are fucking nuts.

Sounds like a mostly peaceful protest that burns down city blocks and Rittenhouse is the “ badguy”

Anyone seen Hunter Biden???
 
Are you some sort of Russian troll? Or just ignorant?

The Soviet and now Russian bio weapon program is and was extensive.

But what does that really have to do with the US putting it’s labs on HIS border?

It’s a legitimate thing for Putin to bitch about. We raised holy hell about nukes in Cuba and absolutely would have started a war if Russia or China put a biolab in Juarez. At some point a lot of this is hypocritical outrage in search for a reason to be anti-Russia as opposed to asking the question of why in the hell we have biolabs in that country to begin with and why in such a strategically inferior area.

Wake up people!!
 
But what does that really have to do with the US putting it’s labs on HIS border?

It’s a legitimate thing for Putin to bitch about. We raised holy hell about nukes in Cuba and absolutely would have started a war if Russia or China put a biolab in Juarez. At some point a lot of this is hypocritical outrage in search for a reason to be anti-Russia as opposed to asking the question of why in the hell we have biolabs in that country to begin with and why in such a strategically inferior area.

Wake up people!!

Correct. Putin may be a murderous authoritarian asshole, but he can also have legitimate complaints about national security issues raised by marching NATO/EU right up to Russia's border. But people want to assign 51/49 weighting to a pair of contrary points such as this so that they can pick sides as opposed to having a reasonable debate about complex problems.
 
Correct. Putin may be a murderous authoritarian asshole, but he can also have legitimate complaints about national security issues raised by marching NATO/EU right up to Russia's border. But people want to assign 51/49 weighting to a pair of contrary points such as this so that they can pick sides as opposed to having a reasonable debate about complex problems.

The way I look at it is Russia grabbed Crimea without a fight & the Russian backed cities which seceded from Ukraine have been in a state of rebellion ever since then. It was only a matter of time before Russia invaded. I mean why wouldn't he? Nobody is going to stop him. He's doing what Machiavellian leaders do. Everything else is just bullshit noise.
 
Are you some sort of Russian troll? Or just ignorant?

The Soviet and now Russian bio weapon program is and was extensive.

Not trolling in the least. Read next quote, please. Mac
But what does that really have to do with the US putting it’s labs on HIS border?

It’s a legitimate thing for Putin to bitch about. We raised holy hell about nukes in Cuba and absolutely would have started a war if Russia or China put a biolab in Juarez. At some point a lot of this is hypocritical outrage in search for a reason to be anti-Russia as opposed to asking the question of why in the hell we have biolabs in that country to begin with and why in such a strategically inferior area.

Wake up people!!
Thank you sir. More or less what I was getting at. Couldn't stated it any better.
Mac(y)
 
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So in addition to 700mio-1billion Europe pays per day , now the Chinese will be getting a cut from US customers

> The US Treasury has allowed American companies to buy Russian oil through an intermediary bank in a third country that has not joined the anti-Russian sanctions. Thus, the dollar payment will go to the bank of a third country, and from there to Russia.
Hong Kong traders have already rushed to offer the best conditions.
As a result, a buyer from the USA will simply pay more, the Russian Federation will receive funds in full, but some interest will settle in Hong Kong, under the PRC.
 
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But what does that really have to do with the US putting it’s labs on HIS border?

It’s a legitimate thing for Putin to bitch about. We raised holy hell about nukes in Cuba and absolutely would have started a war if Russia or China put a biolab in Juarez. At some point a lot of this is hypocritical outrage in search for a reason to be anti-Russia as opposed to asking the question of why in the hell we have biolabs in that country to begin with and why in such a strategically inferior area.

Wake up people!!

Maybe we should realize that the PRC essentially had their own bio lab in our country through the CDC and NIAID.
 
Maybe we should realize that the PRC essentially had their own bio lab in our country through the CDC and NIAID.
Yes. And that through the NAIC the US had a knowledgeable, material hand in creating the situation. And that this is the reason no one can get anyone to acknowledge the Wuhan leak - US taxpayers evidently helped make this virus through funding the research with US tax dollars. China is covering for us and we are covering for China.
 
Passive... these people are fucking nuts.

Sounds like a mostly peaceful protest that burns down city blocks and Rittenhouse is the “ badguy”

Anyone seen Hunter Biden???
I imagine he is sitting on some CCP company board in Hong Kong selling Russian oil to US companies under sanctions waiver. Locust tend to move around.
 
I imagine he is sitting on some CCP company board in Hong Kong selling Russian oil to US companies under sanctions waiver. Locust tend to move around.
And Cornpop is probably getting 10% of the deal.
 
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Yes. And that through the NAIC the US had a knowledgeable, material hand in creating the situation. And that this is the reason no one can get anyone to acknowledge the Wuhan leak - US taxpayers evidently helped make this virus through funding the research with US tax dollars. China is covering for us and we are covering for China.
is it any mystery why xiden (or probably garland) shut down the program to oust ccp spies from our universities?
i think they are even stopping the prosecutions of the ones that were already caught red-handed stealing or lying or both.
 
I'm not sure if this has been posted, but it has been a great listen thus far.

He explains the US/NATO (at least partial) responsibility for the conflict.

 
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I'm not sure if this has been posted, but it has been a great listen thus far.

He explains the US/NATO (at least partial) responsibility for the conflict.


this has been posted by a few of us and is extremely enlightening on the subject.
you can speed up playback without missing anything.

 
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Isn’t southfront a Russian state media outlet?
 
Isn’t southfront a Russian state media outlet?
i dunno, but that private american expat, gonzalo lira, claims this is happening all over to anyone that openly supports russia or criticizes the zelensky regime. he used a mayor of a small town as an example, found in the town square with 2 bullets to the chest.
his neighbor warning him that people showed up at his apartment when he wasn't home. video is linked up thread.
 
Being Russia is shelling their cities I’m sure they are. I’m pretty sure people would not take kindly to losing everything they have in life.
 
Isn’t southfront a Russian state media outlet?
Not a state outlet but what you would consider pro Russian

In any case execution of the negotiator by SBU has been confirmed by the Ukrainian GUR MOU (Formerly GRU) as well.

I guess getting shot while resisting arrest counts as being killed in line of duty.
Ukraine's defense ministry confirmed Kireev’s death, but asserted that he was an intelligence operative for Ukraine who died in the line of duty.
 
somebody said it.

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Cool - he's alright with the invasion of a sovereign nation and the resulting civilian deaths just so long as it makes his political enemies sad, and has publicly stated this in less than 280 characters. Such brave. So nuance.
 
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Cool - he's alright with the invasion of a sovereign nation and the resulting civilian deaths just so long as it makes his political enemies sad, and has publicly stated this in less than 280 characters. Such brave. So nuance.

The Ukraine fucked around and found out.

Our govt could have stopped the war but why let a crisis go to waste.
 
Cool - he's alright with the invasion of a sovereign nation and the resulting civilian deaths just so long as it makes his political enemies sad, and has publicly stated this in less than 280 characters. Such brave. So nuance.
as cold as it seems, to me it is only slightly less insensitive than the people virtue signaling their support of ordinary citizens sacrificing themselves for an obviously corrupt regime that has been purposely putting their safety in danger, with somewhat predictable results (for nothing more than money and not some concepts of self determination or "western values" (whatever they are)).

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The Ukraine fucked around and found out.

Our govt could have stopped the war but why let a crisis go to waste.
That's not what the rando wannabe edgelord was saying. It was more like "shrug, at least Nanci Pelosi is sad".

If one side - that'd be the woke virtue-signalers - is making themselves out to be idiots by taking one side, it's not automatically correct to take the exact opposite stance.

I will give the guy ample credit for just saying stupid shit on the internet instead of voicing ideas that are actually dangerous like Lindsey Graham or Sean Hannity. So, um, props for that?
 
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Bulgaria donated some jets and the ukrainian pilots were going to fly them out of poland but then poland said they didn't want them in their airspace. Unless this is a completely new deal.
Well WSJ sent an alert last night, FT has it today, looks like the State Dept. is keeping alive old news in the headlines. Poland still denies. Fake News everywhere - who is on first and what's on second. So I would assume State Dept. is still arm twisting and sweeting the pot. I do know that the Poles built some good MIGS, I have an aluminum KMP Cobra that was build by Poles in an old MIG plant, great alum alloy and craftmanship.
 
my wife is from el salvador, but i was born here, as was my father and his father...
i post whatever the left wing media won't and it is up to you to decide which side is telling the truth.

funny how xiden's dick sucking shills come here and want to pretend to be the good guys, but immediately attack people they believe are immigrants as ignorant.
It’s obvious the left are the racists. Just look at Biden’s past and how they attack anything that goes against the narrative. Flexo just loves to suck BBC.
 
The Ukraine fucked around and found out.

Our govt could have stopped the war but why let a crisis go to waste.

This is surely one war that was easy to prevent and/or stop , but after 2 years of Covid tyranny many of us plebs were/are itching for mayor reckoning with the Covid cabal , public lynching style, but just on cue WEF's own Vladimir to the rescue of Global cabal with a mayor league distraction, i think Pfizer can wire him a billion or two he saved them in damages.
 
This is surely one war that was easy to prevent and/or stop , but after 2 years of Covid tyranny many of us plebs were/are itching for mayor reckoning with the Covid cabal , public lynching style, but just on cue WEF's own Vladimir to the rescue of Global cabal with a mayor league distraction, i think Pfizer can wire him a billion or two he saved them in damages.
i think there is a lot to this.
we have a lot of pent up anger and frustration, and i think the deep state gave everyone a convenient target at which to vent that anger.
russia russia russia!
 
That's it liberals, Force Russia even further into bed with China. This is what all your woke cancel culture bullshit will buy you. Enjoy!

 
It seems the Jesters dicking around preformance is coming to an end


* my first gun was a Saiga and once i fitted this Ultimak mount if went from a solid 1,5moa gun to 5+Moa and Red dot near overheating after 20 shots.
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Ukrainians have a "continuity of power" plan in case Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky is assassinated (c) US State Department Secretary Blinken
In general, there is a feeling that the spinning flywheel of events may soon swallow Zelensky in every sense, including in the physical. He has actually played his part in formenting this war.


 
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