You know Elon has training in Brazilian Jujitsu and a few different forms of Karate.
While Putin is a judo black belt, he is also 70 years old.
MMA has proven that in a no holds bar match... You better know some Jujitsu.
I’d tune in...
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While Putin is a judo black belt, he is also 70 years old.
MMA has proven that in a no holds bar match... You better know some Jujitsu.
I’d tune in...
I'd put money on Putin. Everything you said would could be correct, but if Putin did actually show up, I still expect him to win.
Elon would either be poisoned before the fight by a hotel maid, or Putin would be so high on drugs that he'd be able to rip a gorilla apart. Or both.
The Russians are known for being able to abstain from cheating in competitions.
Bet they wish they'd put as much preparation into logistical planning for an invasion of a neighboring country as they put into cheating at the Sochi Olympics.
The MSM even if well intentioned and that is questionable is reporting what they see. Everyone here who has been at a scene or engaged in a firefight knows what you saw compared to what someone else saw or experienced is different. Add to it what their handlers are looking for and a lot of what you see reported by them is explainable
Fuck Putin. If you want to get insight into why Putin singlehandedly started this murderous disaster listen to this interview with the historian Timothy Snyder, who offers a brilliant analysis, instead of the apologists scuttling around here:
Also, some random good news about the south:
A Ukrainian Town Deals Russia One of the War’s Most Decisive Routs
In the two-day battle of Voznesensk, local volunteers and the military repelled the invaders, who fled leaving behind armor and dead soldiers
By Yaroslav Trofimov / Photographs by Manu Brabo for The Wall Street Journal March 16, 2022, 11:37 am EDT
VOZNESENSK, Ukraine—A Kalashnikov rifle slung over his shoulder, Voznesensk’s funeral director, Mykhailo Sokurenko, spent this Tuesday driving through fields and forests, picking up dead Russian soldiers and taking them to a freezer railway car piled with Russian bodies—the casualties of one of the most comprehensive routs President Vladimir Putin’s forces have suffered since he ordered the invasion of Ukraine.
…“I wish I could put these bodies on a plane and drop them all onto Moscow, so they realize what is happening here,” said Mr. Sokurenko.
www.wsj.com
Also, some random good news about the south:
A Ukrainian Town Deals Russia One of the War’s Most Decisive Routs
In the two-day battle of Voznesensk, local volunteers and the military repelled the invaders, who fled leaving behind armor and dead soldiers
By Yaroslav Trofimov / Photographs by Manu Brabo for The Wall Street Journal March 16, 2022, 11:37 am EDT
VOZNESENSK, Ukraine—A Kalashnikov rifle slung over his shoulder, Voznesensk’s funeral director, Mykhailo Sokurenko, spent this Tuesday driving through fields and forests, picking up dead Russian soldiers and taking them to a freezer railway car piled with Russian bodies—the casualties of one of the most comprehensive routs President Vladimir Putin’s forces have suffered since he ordered the invasion of Ukraine.
…“I wish I could put these bodies on a plane and drop them all onto Moscow, so they realize what is happening here,” said Mr. Sokurenko.
A Ukrainian Town Deals Russia One of the War’s Most Decisive Routs
In the two-day battle of Voznesensk, local volunteers and the military repelled the invaders, who fled leaving behind armor and dead soldiers. ‘They had no orders for what to do if they are defeated.’
www.wsj.com 
Trump represented an existential threat to:
China
Russia
Pharma
Corrupt US politicians making a killing in foreign investments and paying their dues for a chance at a Presidential run in 2024, 2030, etc. He bypassed the corrupt and rigged partisan system that is financed by the same companies that own every media network, who control who gets elected from both parties.
If Trump got another term, Putin would be hamstrung with low energy prices not only for 4 more years, but for the years after that with whomever Trump blessed-off on to be the next President.
China would be getting brow-beat and out-negotiated with trade deals.
Big Pharma would be competing with each other on generic drug prices at scrap bottom barrel prices. (Pfizer was actually declining in revenue prior to 2017, when Trump appointed HHS to authorize an average of 1000 generic drugs every year. Thankfully for them, something came along and they had windfall billions in profits last year, $87 billion in revenue.)
Trump basically represented a huge threat to the establishment, which is an international consortium of treasonous opportunists and vultures who participate in a rigged system of institutionalized corruption, regardless of what country they live in.
The more money flowing in their economies, the more opportunities for profiting from corruption. In all my life, I’ve never seen a senior executive brag about getting a chief national prosecutor fired who was investigating a company that the same official’s son was on the board of. (Biden on getting Viktor Shokin fired)
China and Russia have their 2013 $670 billion energy deal for 25-30 years, so China was somewhat placated by Russian oil/NG, though they rely heavily on oil from the ME. In that respect, they have inverse imperatives for their economies to demonstrate growth.
Russia needs oil at over $100/barrel to express any economic growth.
China wants it dirty and cheap as possible, needs to keep a growing class of automobile drivers satisfied that simply never existed before there.
US was energy-independent for the first time since 1957, pulled us out of the Paris climate BS, and was a very strong proponent of US energy production.
I’m surprised Trump is still even alive, to be honest. He just had a close call last week in a “GOP Donor’s” private jet over the Gulf. Engine failure, emergency divert on the remaining engine. They don’t want him around for the mid-terms or 2024 especially in any capacity, because who he endorses will carry massive weight for those who vote with their gut and don’t trust the system or anything they’re being told.
Interesting read...
www.breitbart.com
Nolte: Democrats, Media Willing to Risk WWIII with Russia to Win 2022 Midterms
To win the 2022 midterms, the media and Democrats are whipping up a moral panic around Ukraine that could deliver us into World War III.
www.breitbart.com 
It’s what they just did here in the last election, and arguably if you study history has been going on for damn near 100 years in America. This evil is old and pervasive throughout the universe. It is nothing new, since the beginning of time.
And another thing. We are trying to get information about this event that may very well effect us all regardless of location. Maybe it would be a good idea to engage each other with respect and avoid one upsmanship, to learn from each other. Even in the best situations " intelligence" can be lets say faulty. This event as has been as the last two years has shown the need for a new definition of Truth and Intelligence. The people here have been honest in their assessment with the exception of a few both of them are already on ignore for me thankfully, some folks feel the need to get personal? For Us here in the States we are I believe on the edge of a calamity that may indeed make this catastrophe look tame. The time may soon come when these guy's and those like them are all you have.
Putin has a bad back injury from one of the mongoloid retard stunts he pulled in an ultralight when he had a hard landing, hasn’t been able to walk or sit without pain since, plus he’ll be 70 in October. But I wasn’t talking about the fight between him and Musk that will never happen. I was pointing out how Elon Musk has already changed the world in ways that Putin could never accomplish, even with all the resources of Russia at his disposal.
Putin is one of the last of a handful of Russians who got an incremental big picture education through the KGB of how things work from their already-retard perspective in the 1970s. They were so focused on reading all of our mail and tracking the few people in our intel side who weren’t co-opted by them already, that they didn’t see the rot within their own system collapsing underneath them.
It really took him getting unceremoniously appointed President by Yeltsin Dec 1999, then launching the auditing of their status of forces, nuclear capabilities, and top-down review of Russia over many years before he started to get truly educated in how things were. This is one of the most overlooked things in the West, especially with regards to the no-BS status of Russian nuclear warheads, delivery systems, training, safe storage, and production capacity from the reactors.
You start to see why dumping hundreds of millions of dollars into the Clinton Global Initiative for Uranium One mining rights was a priority, facilitated by Comrade Obama, Hillary, and Biden-su.
KGB types in his particular skill set weren’t Kung Fu masters like a child would see in James Bond movies. He was a specialist in surveillance, close target collection, exploitation, and counter-intelligence in East Germany. That is HUMINT tradecraft, not Hollywood action movie fantasies. You guys that put Putin on a pedestal have fallen for a 1920s-1940s cult of personality state marketing scheme that was targeted towards some of the dumbest peasants the world has ever known.
I didn’t see this until last night. Interesting how it parallels much of what I posted a few pages back about the history of the peasants, family sizes, industrial participation vs agricultural lifestyles, and how that influenced religiosity under the demonic times of the communist rule.
One of the first things I learned was how the Russian Orthodox Church was systematically targeted by the Bolsheviks/Communists and attrited significantly, not just in extrajudicial executions of Priests and clergymen, but burning down of cathedrals and churches. The Saint Basil Cathedral in Moscow right at the end of Red Square, was scheduled for destruction at least 3 times during the Soviet era.
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that i can agree with you on. the rest of it? maybe. maybe not. alot of what you say seems to be more picking fly shit out of pepper. i am more of a direct kinda guy.....fly shit and pepper aside.
and it is my position that we dont need to set a toe over there....our governement has fucked it up enough and make no mistake, much of what is going on there is our politician's fault.
I’ve been trying to tell people all the stuff going on over there since 2014 and they act like I’m a moron.
This is random, but German is not a language that makes a woman attractive she’s talking dirty to you but sounds angry lol. All I can see is...
oh for crying out loud. the whole premise is fucking stupid. the only thing i can think of that is stupider, is debating it. i mean fuck, we might as well be arguing who's dad can beat up who's.Putin has a bad back injury from one of the mongoloid retard stunts he pulled in an ultralight when he had a hard landing, hasn’t been able to walk or sit without pain since, plus he’ll be 70 in October. But I wasn’t talking about the fight between him and Musk that will never happen. I was pointing out how Elon Musk has already changed the world in ways that Putin could never accomplish, even with all the resources of Russia at his disposal.
Putin is one of the last of a handful of Russians who got an incremental big picture education through the KGB of how things work from their already-retard perspective in the 1970s. They were so focused on reading all of our mail and tracking the few people in our intel side who weren’t co-opted by them already, that they didn’t see the rot within their own system collapsing underneath them.
It really took him getting unceremoniously appointed President by Yeltsin Dec 1999, then launching the auditing of their status of forces, nuclear capabilities, and top-down review of Russia over many years before he started to get truly educated in how things were. This is one of the most overlooked things in the West, especially with regards to the no-BS status of Russian nuclear warheads, delivery systems, training, safe storage, and production capacity from the reactors.
You start to see why dumping hundreds of millions of dollars into the Clinton Global Initiative for Uranium One mining rights was a priority, facilitated by Comrade Obama, Hillary, and Biden-su.
KGB types in his particular skill set weren’t Kung Fu masters like a child would see in James Bond movies. He was a specialist in surveillance, close target collection, exploitation, and counter-intelligence in East Germany. That is HUMINT tradecraft, not Hollywood action movie fantasies. You guys that put Putin on a pedestal have fallen for a 1920s-1940s cult of personality state marketing scheme that was targeted towards some of the dumbest peasants the world has ever known.
elon running his yap is stupid. and if he comes down with radiation poisoning.....well, he should have thought about that. you musk fans, your breath smells like elon's cock. every last one of you. it is really pathetic.
What's your point?
You act as if arguing over a "who can beat up Superman" debate is somehow trivializing the epic struggle between two nations at war.
This is the Bear pit. I've seen worse.
Damn they sanctioned everything.
McGreggor was one of the lead guys on 73 Easting in ODS, and was an advocate for radical reorganization of the Army into smaller combined arms task forces given leeway to use ingenuity to solve problems at the operational level, rather than follow our predictable doctrine written in books. He’s a strong advocate for empowering junior leaders and combatant commanders with the ability to fight their fight as best as possible, with minimal interference from the trappings of tradition and codified tactics.
His comments here are interesting because I just conducted an assessment of Russian aircraft losses so far, and compared them with US/Coalition air losses in ODS. I’ll just cut and paste what I wrote earlier from private comms:
So I can’t argue with General McGreggor’s assessment of the in-theater picture of the Russian order of battle and status of Ukrainian forces. Anyone who would want to argue with him in that context would really need to come from a place of being his peer, which there are maybe a handful at best.
Where I disagree with him is his pro-Putin stance since 2014 at least. He has asserted that Putin has every right to invade Ukraine and has advocated for the annexation of Donbas on the SVR front, Russia Today. That raises my spider senses a bit when I see former US officers making pro-Russian statements that are especially provocative in favor of interfering with the sovereignty of other nations. That’s a problem.
we slaughtered 10s or 100s of thousands of goat herders in afghanistan, iraq, and other places, that were no danger to america, in response to a couple dozen saudis that killed 3000 americans.
ukrainian forces or their nazi allies (depending on if you consider azov official uke military) have killed 3,300 civilians in the donbas region since 2014, along with around 6k combatants (uke or russian) fighting for independence from this corrupt regime and the ones before it.
sorry, but condemning putin is the worst sort of hypocrisy from our politicians and war mongers.
i can condemn him and you can, but they have no business talking out of their asses.
Yeah I've seen that argument on here and it's just about as stupid as the people who act like they can read Putin's mind.
There's no right or wrong with invasions he is doing it because he can. NATO isn't going to bat for Ukraine, I'm surprised they are sending stingers etc.
As for the Russia cheerleaders trying to make hay over Iraq vs Ukraine sorry guys but the Russians are doing horrible in comparison to the US coalition. They flew something like 100k+ flights in the first couple weeks over Iraq, you think the Russians have the same numbers of aircraft flying around? How about tank losses? APCs?
I still think the Russians will "win" but let's face it, they are sucking at it.
will be called a pootin lover for saying it, but he is trying to minimize collateral damage (imho) or there would be a lot more deadpipo.
he has not attacked the power grid as people claim (and we would have probably done). lights are on.
i dont know who she is, (edited*** laura logan***) but not only is she dead nutz on, she is hot as fuck and seems to be packing one helluva rack. and shame on me for going there on a woman who has her head on straight and is standing up to the shitheads. but still. she was the one that was gang raped in egypt during the arab spring if memory serves correctly...or am i wrong?
so, would you say that kennedy over reached with the cuban missile crisis?
That quote attribute makes it look like a said "Putin has every right to invade Ukraine", when that was McGreggor’s position.
Definitely agree on the sortie generation rates. Russia couldn’t generate sorties the way we do with their engines and maintenance personnel. We were also fighting a well-organized (by outside US/NATO standards) and extensive force of armor, artillery, APCs, mobile SAM and AAA platforms.
My other concern is who the Biden WH is really sending the weapons and military aid to if Russia has control over most of the major import hubs. Russians are already capturing Javelins, NLAWS, and Stingers to be used how they see fit.
I think Moldova will be a formality at this point in the near future, which will rattle Romania’s, Bulgaria’s, Poland’s, the Baltic’s, and Finland’s cages.
that's lara logan
Fox News Has Ghosted Lara Logan After She Compared Fauci to Nazi Doc
All signs point to an end of the Logan-Fox pairing, as the network has stayed eerily silent and Logan confessed in a recent interview that she’s now entirely in the dark.
www.thedailybeast.com
whatever isn't taken or destroyed, we can probably assume some of it will end up in the hands of terrorist or real enemies.
ukraine has a history of losing track of shit we give them.
The US Navy alone has a larger airforce than Russia. I think direct comparison is a bit ridiculous.
I still believe the US has the most capable military force that ever walked the face of this planet and there’s a pretty big drop off after that. Russias conventional forces are not comparable to the US. This doesn’t surprise me. I also believe the Russians are holding back forces incase nato does decide to jump in.
Also did we ever really win in Iraq?
My older cousin was a firefighter stationed in Baghdad when Bush gave this speech. Next time I saw him after he got back stateside he told me that the day after that speech, a bunch of the goat fuckers still operating in Baghdad shelled the hell out of a building he responded to and was pulling bodies out of. Told me he was griping under his breath this shit ain’t over, it ain’t fucking over.
We had softened up Iraq a lot in 1990-91 but never fully controlled the country, The goal was destroying most of their shit and getting them out of Kuwait. By 2003 they were a shadow of their former self. And it still took four years before sitting president made his mission accomplished speech. In reality its been 3 decades of fighting and we still have people over there.
So I think all these short term judgments of what’s success and what isn’t it’s a bit ridiculous. Both sides are suffering losses but I don’t see Ukraine attacking Russian cities. They are still heavily on the defensive.
I see Ukraine begging for weapons, airplanes and help to close the skies. They are not operating from a position of strength they’re barely grasping to hold on.
Putin hasn't gotten pissed yet..
"he has not attacked the power grid "
It's winter time; Putin is taking over the power grids. He'll flip the switch, and people will freeze and starve in a fk'n hurry in 5 degree temps.Putin doesn't want to destroy the Grid, so when Russina takes Ukraine, he can flip the switch and the power will come back on.
Putin will get all the nuclear reactors producing again and selling the power to Europe.
It's a matter of time, unless Ukraine can REARM itself.
Shipments will go directly to Russian forces with the amount of money Biden is talking about.
Next question is whether US/NATO stock has been depleted in EUCOM theater under the excuse of "supplying Ukraine".
This whole thing is bad all around. We have literal traitors inside the WH who have been on Soviet and Chinese payrolls for decades, acting like they’re going to fight Putin by sending billions in military supplies to pockets of Ukrainians right before Russia tightens the noose.
That really makes you ask what country is next.
Next question is whether US/NATO stock has been depleted in EUCOM theater under the excuse of "supplying Ukraine".
This whole thing is bad all around. We have literal traitors inside the WH who have been on Soviet and Chinese payrolls for decades, acting like they’re going to fight Putin by sending billions in military supplies to pockets of Ukrainians right before Russia tightens the noose.
That really makes you ask what country is next.
I agree with most of what you said here, but especially the points above:
Russia is not even comparable to us conventionally. If you go back 20 or 30 pages in this thread you'll see me saying it over and over. That is why, if NATO jumps in (which some special operators who operate operationally are telling me is extremely unlikely based on deployments) and Russia begins to get it's ass kicked badly and they feel their existence is threatened, then tactical nukes might be on the table.
I believe they are holding back some of their best equipment for just that possibility. But whether they are holding it back and allowing NATO to know that, as a deterrent, or whether they think that they would actually be able to blunt a direct intervention by NATO...well there I'd only be guessing.
And yes, Ukraine is fighting hard and it is not all going the Russians way. But Ukraine is losing. And they are losing badly in the East. The Western part of the invasion is, in my opinion, a holding force meant to keep Kiev from reinforcing the East. Once the Donbas is cleared of AFU troops, then you may see the impetus switch to the SW or even Kiev.
I really don’t think their primary goals are Kiev and western Ukraine. As was pointed out earlier they want the ports/Black sea access. Noticed the one city that they were sieging and have completely surrounded is Mariupol?
I see what you are saying about the northern force tying up resupply to the south east. Seems logical.
fantastic
don't make too much of the "warm water ports" idea that a previous poster was talking about. Most people who talk about that stuff don't know that it was a theory written 130 years ago in a book called "The Influence of Sea Power Upon History" by A.T. Mahan. It was a very influential book for it's time, but that was also the age before air power.
Another incorrect assumption that was made regards the geographical realities of the Black Sea. Russia has ports, and any/all Black Sea port traffic is easily interdicted by the Turks at the Bosporus and Dardanelles/Hellespont anyway.
Mariupol was a very strongly pro-Russian town near Donetsk. When that area declared independence in 14, the AFU went in and terrorized the citizenry, kicked out the local separatist militias, and then did all sorts of wonderful things like crucifying and burning pro-Russian male residents afterwards to "teach them a lesson". Mariupol is a priority because of what happened there before, not because of it's value as a nearly land-locked seaport that would be under Russian guns at Taman and Kerch.
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You half to wonder how much of this going to get laundered back to his family.?WASHINGTON (AP) — President Joe Biden on Tuesday signed a bill providing $13.6 billion in additional military and humanitarian aid to Ukraine as part of a $1.5 trillion government spending measure that omits COVID-19 aid the White House says is urgently needed.
Biden signs budget bill with Ukraine aid but no virus cash
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Joe Biden on Tuesday signed a bill providing $13.6 billion in additional military and humanitarian aid to Ukraine as part of a $1.5 trillion government spending me…www.pe.com
Putin can’t allocate all the forces for one campaign in Ukraine and leave the back door open near Japan, China, and Korea, the front door open near Poland, and the roof open in the arctic. Russia has its military broken down into regional defense vs expeditionary forces in general terms.
I tried to pull up an excellent German site resource where you can literally zoom down to the sub-unit level on an interactive map of Russia, but their site is 404’d. Called GFIS.org I tried with multiple VPN locations include "neutral zones” that park a lot of Russian offshore cash. Here’s an older screenshot of GFIS, so imagine just being able to zoom down to any operational symbol for a unit, whether it be Air Forces, Ground Forces, Naval bases, etc.
Russia is already a near-impossible territory to defend even with 100% strength on its best day. Putin has thrown sufficient forces at Ukraine if the objective is to not effect massive collateral damages, which makes sense because once the territory is taken, as much of the infrastructure will be necessary to harness in order to support Russia’s economy with flow of the resources.
With a pre-invasion population of 43 million people, it’s not like they are going away somewhere. Another problem is moving in ethnic Russians, since there aren’t enough of those in Russia as it is.
You also can’t rape the Ukrainian women as a military strategy to produce loyal sons as in the past, in today’s world. As long as Putin can stabilize things after the invasion, keep the oil pipelines flowing, stabilize the conditions of the sea ports, and keep the crops going with a hungry Chinese trade partner eating every kernel of grain possible, it will have secured Russia’s interests for the short-term.
The wildcard will be how Ukrainians adapt to being occupied when they just were conducting democratic elections and moving closer to Eurozone trade-all gone now. Putin could throw them a curve ball and say, “Nye problyem. Kanyeshna trade with EU, but of course you have to pay a little off the top to daddy in Moskva."
That will then show how impotent Biden is though. A recent poll said 52% of Americans don’t think Biden will run for reelection. Now that China and Russia have the voting machines all primed up, the mid-terms will be interesting to live through.
I tried to pull up an excellent German site resource where you can literally zoom down to the sub-unit level on an interactive map of Russia, but their site is 404’d. Called GFIS.org I tried with multiple VPN locations include "neutral zones” that park a lot of Russian offshore cash. Here’s an older screenshot of GFIS, so imagine just being able to zoom down to any operational symbol for a unit, whether it be Air Forces, Ground Forces, Naval bases, etc.
Russia is already a near-impossible territory to defend even with 100% strength on its best day. Putin has thrown sufficient forces at Ukraine if the objective is to not effect massive collateral damages, which makes sense because once the territory is taken, as much of the infrastructure will be necessary to harness in order to support Russia’s economy with flow of the resources.
With a pre-invasion population of 43 million people, it’s not like they are going away somewhere. Another problem is moving in ethnic Russians, since there aren’t enough of those in Russia as it is.
You also can’t rape the Ukrainian women as a military strategy to produce loyal sons as in the past, in today’s world. As long as Putin can stabilize things after the invasion, keep the oil pipelines flowing, stabilize the conditions of the sea ports, and keep the crops going with a hungry Chinese trade partner eating every kernel of grain possible, it will have secured Russia’s interests for the short-term.
The wildcard will be how Ukrainians adapt to being occupied when they just were conducting democratic elections and moving closer to Eurozone trade-all gone now. Putin could throw them a curve ball and say, “Nye problyem. Kanyeshna trade with EU, but of course you have to pay a little off the top to daddy in Moskva."
That will then show how impotent Biden is though. A recent poll said 52% of Americans don’t think Biden will run for reelection. Now that China and Russia have the voting machines all primed up, the mid-terms will be interesting to live through.
exactly. the Bidens and every other rat F democrat will have their hand in that till, along with many Republicans.
the sad thing about Republicans is that they are sellouts too. Where are true conservatives supposed to go?
Control over Western Ukraine is absolutely essential for Russian energy if they are to continue to provide to their biggest customers.
why would they want to invade russia. it takes forever to get to where there is anything but fucking cold dirt or snow.Putin can’t allocate all the forces for one campaign in Ukraine and leave the back door open near Japan, China, and Korea, the front door open near Poland, and the roof open in the arctic. Russia has its military broken down into regional defense vs expeditionary forces in general terms.
I tried to pull up an excellent German site resource where you can literally zoom down to the sub-unit level on an interactive map of Russia, but their site is 404’d. Called GFIS.org I tried with multiple VPN locations include "neutral zones” that park a lot of Russian offshore cash. Here’s an older screenshot of GFIS, so imagine just being able to zoom down to any operational symbol for a unit, whether it be Air Forces, Ground Forces, Naval bases, etc.
Russia is already a near-impossible territory to defend even with 100% strength on its best day. Putin has thrown sufficient forces at Ukraine if the objective is to not effect massive collateral damages, which makes sense because once the territory is taken, as much of the infrastructure will be necessary to harness in order to support Russia’s economy with flow of the resources.
With a pre-invasion population of 43 million people, it’s not like they are going away somewhere. Another problem is moving in ethnic Russians, since there aren’t enough of those in Russia as it is.
You also can’t rape the Ukrainian women as a military strategy to produce loyal sons as in the past, in today’s world. As long as Putin can stabilize things after the invasion, keep the oil pipelines flowing, stabilize the conditions of the sea ports, and keep the crops going with a hungry Chinese trade partner eating every kernel of grain possible, it will have secured Russia’s interests for the short-term.
The wildcard will be how Ukrainians adapt to being occupied when they just were conducting democratic elections and moving closer to Eurozone trade-all gone now. Putin could throw them a curve ball and say, “Nye problyem. Kanyeshna trade with EU, but of course you have to pay a little off the top to daddy in Moskva."
That will then show how impotent Biden is though. A recent poll said 52% of Americans don’t think Biden will run for reelection. Now that China and Russia have the voting machines all primed up, the mid-terms will be interesting to live through.
Japan just announced that Kuril Islands are theirs and everyone knows it. Literally every nation Russia has a border with has historical disputes with them, because Russia stole those territories at some time in history.
O yes but they do not need western Ukraine to do that. Whats the date on that pipeline map, I do not see either of the nord streams or the south/turk stream.
Control over Western Ukraine is absolutely essential for Russian energy if they are to continue to provide to their biggest customers.
Russia has already begun building routes around Ukraine.
This PDF below is fairly dated but it still has some decent information.
There have been issues for years with gas flowing through Ukraine.
japan isn't going to do shit. didn't they claim sovereignty last year?Japan just announced that Kuril Islands are theirs and everyone knows it. Literally every nation Russia has a border with has historical disputes with them, because Russia stole those territories at some time in history.
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