If bolt extensions and barrels were as available as they should be, I'd love to SBR a Cross and try a few different stubby tubes.
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I got a chance to handle a Cross at my local shop -- Felt quite solid.
The bolt was smooth, especially for brand new rifle. The stock did not seem to have any flex.
I think a 308 version is in my future
The bolt was smooth, especially for brand new rifle. The stock did not seem to have any flex.
I think a 308 version is in my future
I held one in a shop and knew I had to get one…just feels good. Even my wife, who isn’t into guns at all, held it and was like “oh wow I definitely understand why you want this”.
Well look what just appeared: https://www.sigsauer.com/cross-born-and-raised.html
I would like to handle it but I still think a carbon handguard like Lancer or faxon would be awesome in a longer handguard with a 16” barrel barely past the end.
Would save weight, make it quieter and not get hot or cold like aluminum.
A heavier Cross makes it less interesting to me. That, and the Born and Raised part. Not a fan.
They should support this product by putting out barrels and extensions first, then mods.
They should support this product by putting out barrels and extensions first, then mods.
You’d think but something tells me they think the PRS models will appeal to more. So far everyone is leaning towards a shorter handier version which makes sense to me that’s why I run it at the 16” length with a can. We already have a heavy PRS style rifle in the Ruger and some other options. Honestly they’re missing the target here.
I'm not a fan of the "Born & Raised" branding, but otherwise this rifle seems to be a nice middle ground between the standard cross and the "PRS" version.
This one is a 24" 6.5 Creed, with a RRS compatible handguard, and it's still only around 8lbs. Which means I can buy it, add something like an Razor LHT, bipod, and a lightweight titanium suppressor (like an Ultra 7 or Ultra 5) and the rifle will still be around, or possibly under, 12lbs all up.
Not mountain rifle light, but not bad for a do-all general purpose rifle.
I think they'll probably sell a ton of these. Heck, I might even buy one and rattle can it so I don't have to look at the branding.
But I do wish it was available in 6.5 PRC....
ETA: At 8lbs, this rifle is really too light to appeal to someone wanting a dedicated PRS rifle. But it would make a perfect all purpose gun or NRL Hunter factory class rifle, and I think that's who it's probably aimed at. The PRS version, at 14 lbs, is definitely more in line with a dedicated match rifle.
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Anyone know if Sig plans to offer these in 6mm Creedmoor?
It’s a 1” ball I printed but you can find similar on McMaster
Ah missed that, will do!
There was a rumor a few months ago that someone was working on 223/556 bolt heads and barrels. Has anyone heard anything about this?
Anyone have a recommendation for a light (but solid) Arca rail for the Sig Cross ???
I would prefer for the rail to match the full length of the forend ... Or close to it ... But not be too heavy to defeat the purpose of this light rifle.
I just ordered a 308 model from EuroOptic, so I am getting ready.
Also, I understand the forend is close to the barrel, so some M-lok mounts/bolts don't work with the cross (they touch the barrel). Has anyone experienced this?
Thanks
I would prefer for the rail to match the full length of the forend ... Or close to it ... But not be too heavy to defeat the purpose of this light rifle.
I just ordered a 308 model from EuroOptic, so I am getting ready.
Also, I understand the forend is close to the barrel, so some M-lok mounts/bolts don't work with the cross (they touch the barrel). Has anyone experienced this?
Thanks
I used a file to shorten the screws up that touched the barrel on mine. As far as lightweight rails I can't really help. I have a area 419 on mine.
That would pique my interest - I've got plenty of .308's and 6.5's - but I would like to have a lightweight .223 version.
I have one, seems okay so far
What kind of factory 6.5 ammo are people having good luck with in these? I just ordered one and want to get some ammo on the way too.
Has anyone shot Berger 140gr Hybrid factory ammo or Barnes 127gr LRX?
Are they sensitive to loading the bipod?
Has anyone shot Berger 140gr Hybrid factory ammo or Barnes 127gr LRX?
Are they sensitive to loading the bipod?
I mounted a scope and zeroed a friend's 6.5cm. I shot the 140eldm and 143eldx. Both shot well under 1moa and the eldx shot better around 1/2moa.
I don't remember it being sensitive to loading the bipod. I know my 308 cross isn't.
I don't remember it being sensitive to loading the bipod. I know my 308 cross isn't.
May I ask, is that an ASE UTRA silencer? It looks like the Cross is finally available here in Germany and I don't know which silencer is the way to go.
I already own an ASE UTRA SL7i-BL, so buying just another Borelock would be the least expensive solution. Although I'm hesitant to put such a heavy silencer on such rifle, when I finally managed to buy a (very) light rifle. If that is an ASE UTRA how does it work on a Cross, does it effect the weight (distribution) much?
It is an Ase Utra SL7i -BL .30
I have not picked the weapon up with only the moderator on. With the scope and moderator on the weapon feels so nicely balanced, I find myself reaching for the Cross most of the time now.
I was lucky that I found a round that works with the weapon straight away. I use Winchester Deer Season XP 125g. So far not a spot of bother and goes exactly where I want it to.
My Cross is one of the few rifles that I actually shoot better off a bipod than bags, not sure if it's the thin rail or the extra weight up front.
I've only tried this Hornady ammo-details written on photo. I was over loading the bipod initially then backed off a bit; plus, I added a Area 419 brake. I haven't shot mine since last December-neat rifle though.
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How do you like the NX8 on yours? I need an optic for mine still and it’s in the running.
I think it's a perfect fit.
Hows the stock hinge fit on these after some use? In the store it seems solid, but it just looks like a weak point to me.
Though I am comparing it to the folding AIAT I used to have, so it maybe an unfair comparison.
Though I am comparing it to the folding AIAT I used to have, so it maybe an unfair comparison.
While it's definitely not AI rugged. It's plenty serviceable. And while not ideal, it's nice to know sig is selling the hinges for $100 if they wear too much. Mine hasn't yet.
The hinge is a spring loaded wedge. Even if you use it a ton and it wears a little it will self adjust. My hinge was excellent, total lockup.
Yeah I wouldn’t be folding it a ton, as its more of a “nice to have” feature.
Mine loosened up within a couple weeks, but it was because it wasn’t tightened down at the factory well. I switched it to a left side fold, loctited it(purple), and retorqued the screws that hold the hinge to the stock/gun. It’s been rock solid ever since.
Got mine out past 100...finally. shot for moa groups on paper to 300 and steel at 420 and 490. Prairie dog steel (actual size) at 420 wasnt an issue.
So I got my Cross today. Initial impressions are that it’s not bad for the price point but IMO $1500 is a little steep for it still.
Those comparing it to the fix though (I’ve had two of them) and suggesting they are even remotely equal… you’re a fucking idiot or don’t have a clue. The build quality on this thing is shit compared to the fix.
The first thing I noticed is the slop in the hinge. It’s as tight as it needs to be when it’s straight, but when it’s folded holy shit is it sloppy. It flops around like my flaccid cock commando in sweat pants. It’s BAD. Even compared to the Sig folding braces and my MCX folding stock. It’s sloppy AF where the fix hinge feels like a quality piece.
The next thing I noticed is the joke of a thread protector. It has more than a whole exposed thread sticking out. If the muzzle contacted a hard surface your threads would be fucked. The threads also aren’t very clean.
Then the channel in the rear of the receiver with a huge open channel to the sear and no shroud is just fucking dumb. Anything that collects in there (which it will because it’s like a ditch) is just going to be worked up into the sear. Stupid design.
Other than the obvious stuff the only major complaint I have is the trigger shoe is narrow.
I’ll see how it shoots but I doubt it’s hanging around for too long. Definitely don’t think it’s worth putting a Proof barrel on and polishing this turd.
Those comparing it to the fix though (I’ve had two of them) and suggesting they are even remotely equal… you’re a fucking idiot or don’t have a clue. The build quality on this thing is shit compared to the fix.
The first thing I noticed is the slop in the hinge. It’s as tight as it needs to be when it’s straight, but when it’s folded holy shit is it sloppy. It flops around like my flaccid cock commando in sweat pants. It’s BAD. Even compared to the Sig folding braces and my MCX folding stock. It’s sloppy AF where the fix hinge feels like a quality piece.
The next thing I noticed is the joke of a thread protector. It has more than a whole exposed thread sticking out. If the muzzle contacted a hard surface your threads would be fucked. The threads also aren’t very clean.
Then the channel in the rear of the receiver with a huge open channel to the sear and no shroud is just fucking dumb. Anything that collects in there (which it will because it’s like a ditch) is just going to be worked up into the sear. Stupid design.
Other than the obvious stuff the only major complaint I have is the trigger shoe is narrow.
I’ll see how it shoots but I doubt it’s hanging around for too long. Definitely don’t think it’s worth putting a Proof barrel on and polishing this turd.
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Anyone else sorta wish the butt pad slider wasn't a friggin .25c piece of stamped metal on a gun that otherwise has the premium aesthetic nailed?
I'd like to replace the whole stock. I dislike all of the adjustments; they're cheap and too easy to lose adjustment, especially the cheek piece. It was a gun meant to hunt and nothing else, but even at that I don't like how easy it is to snag the stock on branches, gear and your sling, and how there's no good place for a sling on the gun if the stock is folded.
Yeah, mine was collapsing under recoil…Mine will slide in while bouncing it on the ground with it tight as fuck
The LOP rack is definitely super ghetto. Mine collapsed last year and cut the shit out of my chest. I also had a short thread protector, so at least they haven’t fixed that either, my S/N is in the low -200s.
I set it and put a Chicago screw from an old Blade Tech holster in the channel so it can’t go in any further.
I set it and put a Chicago screw from an old Blade Tech holster in the channel so it can’t go in any further.
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