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The Benjamin Franklin quote is a fake in a sense. It is part of a letter to a British newspaper where he pretended to be a British farmer. Here is the full letter where he acts like the biggest asshole in history. I’ll let you be the judge of why.
So it's a fake quote, then you cite the letter where he wrote it? That level of disconnect can only be achieved by a lefty.

Biggest asshole in history, because he expects adulthood to be a bit more than surviving until a magic day on the calendar?
 
Status: This exact quotation has not been found in any of the writings of Thomas Jefferson
You reading comprehension skills are as bad as your ability to run your life w/o freebies.
Did you think b/c I've already called out your lies once, I'd let this one slide?
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I visited the Great Lakes Shipwreck Museum, at Whitefish Point last August. It was excellent. The Edmund Fitzgerald went down about 15 miles North of there and the Museum had many references to that as well as the many wrecks/disasters that happened over the years.

It really was heartbreaking to see the history and realize that many of those brave Sailors knew that they were sailing to their doom as they left Port. Personally, I don't think that any of those wrecks had to happen, particularly the lives lost.



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I was in Athens about 4 years ago, in a Taxi, heading back to the airport. In typical Third World fashion, the driver asked us for payment in advance (which I was OK with). Once paid, he promptly pulled in to the nearest Petrol Station and put in only enough gas to get to the airport and back to Downtown Athens.

On the way, after getting gas, we drove by the US Embassy. It was one square block and was surrounded by parked Prison Busses in order to protect it from Angry Citizens. The Greeks have been bent over and fucked hard by the Globalists/IMF/World Bank and have had most of their assets stolen from them. It's no fucking wonder they hate Americans, I can't blame them.
 
So it's a fake quote, then you cite the letter where he wrote it? That level of disconnect can only be achieved by a lefty.

Biggest asshole in history, because he expects adulthood to be a bit more than surviving until a magic day on the calendar?
I guess I'll have to explain it in small words.

Written in 1766 during a famine.
Exporting food was outlawed because people were starving to death.
No poor were idle, they were forced into workhouses with a high death rate.
They were not drunk. It was illegal to turn grain into alcohol during the famine.
End result he made the farmers that wanted to lift the embargo on exporting food look bad.
 
I was in Athens about 4 years ago, in a Taxi, heading back to the airport. In typical Third World fashion, the driver asked us for payment in advance (which I was OK with). Once paid, he promptly pulled in to the nearest Petrol Station and put in only enough gas to get to the airport and back to Downtown Athens.

On the way, after getting gas, we drove by the US Embassy. It was one square block and was surrounded by parked Prison Busses in order to protect it from Angry Citizens. The Greeks have been bent over and fucked hard by the Globalists/IMF/World Bank and have had most of their assets stolen from them. It's no fucking wonder they hate Americans, I can't blame them.

some things they did to themselves. we think the west is corrupt, and thats true, but corruption in poor countries goes unnoticed for the most part by us westerners.
 
apparently commiefornia is changing

Charlie Kirk: Believe It or Not New York and California Are Going to Deliver Us the House Majority​


 
I visited the Great Lakes Shipwreck Museum, at Whitefish Point last August. It was excellent. The Edmund Fitzgerald went down about 15 miles North of there and the Museum had many references to that as well as the many wrecks/disasters that happened over the years.

It really was heartbreaking to see the history and realize that many of those brave Sailors knew that they were sailing to their doom as they left Port. Personally, I don't think that any of those wrecks had to happen, particularly the lives lost.



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The E.F. was lost because storm waves entered into the ship via hatches that were not fully secured. One hatch was completely off, from what I remember. Then it took on a list, then more water. As you mentioned, that wreck did not have to happen. Crew made a mistake, or some hatches were in disrepair.

Being a boater and a former yacht repair person, I study most of the new maritime disasters. There is always, or at least almost always, a reason the boat and crew were lost. Sometimes it is the ship owner cutting back on maintenance, sometimes it is the skipper running late and going out into a storm. Lots of reasons, and almost every one avoidable.
 
I guess I'll have to explain it in small words.

Written in 1766 during a famine.
Exporting food was outlawed because people were starving to death.
No poor were idle, they were forced into workhouses with a high death rate.
They were not drunk. It was illegal to turn grain into alcohol during the famine.
End result he made the farmers that wanted to lift the embargo on exporting food look bad.
Was it his words, yes or no?
Yes it was.
Sad you think expecting people to be responsible for their own lives makes him the biggest asshole in history. But not surprising from folks who only want to shirk responsibility and get freebies.
 
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You reading comprehension skills are as bad as your ability to run your life w/o freebies.
Did you think b/c I've already called out your lies once, I'd let this one slide?
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OK let's ignore the fact that it is labeled a spurious quotation and look at the whole note.


To this a single observation shall yet be added. Whether property alone, and the whole of what each citizen possesses, shall be subject to contribution, or only it’s surplus after satisfying his first wants, or whether the faculties of body and mind shall contribute also from their annual earnings, is a question to be decided. but, when decided, and the principle settled, it is to be equally and fairly applied to all. to take from one, because it is thought that his own industry and that of his father[s?] has acquired too much, in order to spare to others, who, or whose fathers have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, the guarantee to every one of a free exercise of his industry, & the fruits acquired by it. if the overgrown wealth of an individual be deemed dangerous to the state, the best corrective is the law of equal inheritance to all in equal degree: and the better as this enforces a law of nature, while extra-taxation violates one.


"Whether property alone, and the whole of what each citizen possesses, shall be subject to contribution, or only it’s surplus after satisfying his first wants, or whether the faculties of body and mind shall contribute also from their annual earnings, is a question to be decided. but, when decided, and the principle settled, it is to be equally and fairly applied to all."

Whether there is a wealth tax or a wealth tax and an income tax is yet to be decided, but it should be applied equally to all.
Note - An income tax without a wealth tax is not an option.

"to take from one, because it is thought that his own industry and that of his father[s?] has acquired too much, in order to spare to others, who, or whose fathers have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, the guarantee to every one of a free exercise of his industry, & the fruits acquired by it."

The wealth tax should be equal for everybody.

"if the overgrown wealth of an individual be deemed dangerous to the state, the best corrective is the law of equal inheritance to all in equal degree: and the better as this enforces a law of nature, while extra-taxation violates one."

There should be an 100% inheritance tax on everybody.
 
Was it his words, yes or no?
Yes it was.
Sad you think expecting people to be responsible for their own lives makes him the biggest asshole in history. But not surprising from folks who only want to shirk responsibility and get freebies.
He wrote them while pretending to be somebody else. Allow me to introduce you to the concept of satire.

The use of humor, irony, exaggeration, or ridicule to expose and criticize people's stupidity or vices, particularly in the context of contemporary politics and other topical issues.
 
OK let's ignore the fact that it is labeled a spurious quotation and look at the whole note.
Let's not ignore the quote labeled as spurious is not the quote in question. You constantly lie when you get called out on your BS.
To this a single observation shall yet be added. Whether property alone, and the whole of what each citizen possesses, shall be subject to contribution, or only it’s surplus after satisfying his first wants, or whether the faculties of body and mind shall contribute also from their annual earnings, is a question to be decided. but, when decided, and the principle settled, it is to be equally and fairly applied to all. to take from one, because it is thought that his own industry and that of his father[s?] has acquired too much, in order to spare to others, who, or whose fathers have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, the guarantee to every one of a free exercise of his industry, & the fruits acquired by it. if the overgrown wealth of an individual be deemed dangerous to the state, the best corrective is the law of equal inheritance to all in equal degree: and the better as this enforces a law of nature, while extra-taxation violates one.

"Whether property alone, and the whole of what each citizen possesses, shall be subject to contribution, or only it’s surplus after satisfying his first wants, or whether the faculties of body and mind shall contribute also from their annual earnings, is a question to be decided. but, when decided, and the principle settled, it is to be equally and fairly applied to all."

Whether there is a wealth tax or a wealth tax and an income tax is yet to be decided, but it should be applied equally to all.
Note - An income tax without a wealth tax is not an option.

"to take from one, because it is thought that his own industry and that of his father[s?] has acquired too much, in order to spare to others, who, or whose fathers have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, the guarantee to every one of a free exercise of his industry, & the fruits acquired by it."

The wealth tax should be equal for everybody.

"if the overgrown wealth of an individual be deemed dangerous to the state, the best corrective is the law of equal inheritance to all in equal degree: and the better as this enforces a law of nature, while extra-taxation violates one."

There should be an 100% inheritance tax on everybody.
After being called out on your lie, you post where he actually said it.
I guess you miss the irony of a proponent of "progressive" taxation posting something about taxation equality?
 
He wrote them while pretending to be somebody else. Allow me to introduce you to the concept of satire.

The use of humor, irony, exaggeration, or ridicule to expose and criticize people's stupidity or vices, particularly in the context of contemporary politics and other topical issues.
Riddle me this. Can you cite the democrat success story? Just one area that was a cesspool of poverty and crime that was turned around after adopting democrat policies?
The reverse can be shown all day. Formerly thiving areas turned into wastelands after adopting democrat policies. Chicago, Detroit, Oakland, Memphis, Philly, etc.
 
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Brian’s form is far from that of a typical model, but not only was he allowed to enter, he was also presented with the crown. ‘In the 100-year history of Miss America, I have officially become the FIRST transgender titleholder within the Miss America organisation,’ Nguyen wrote on social media.

Beauty pageants can shock not only with their contestants, but also with their venue. For example, pageants take place in a women's prison in Brazil. But for the contestants, winning isn't all that matters. It's the day they get to see their families. Watch the film Model Prisoners (2018) () about it."

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everyones gone mad!!! might have to start burning people at the stake again for witchcraft.
 
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some things they did to themselves. we think the west is corrupt, and thats true, but corruption in poor countries goes unnoticed for the most part by us westerners.
But, the script is always the same. The corrupt bureaucrats/politicians sell their souls to the devil (IMF/World Bank/Rothschilds) for a few pieces of Silver and the (massive) toll is extracted from the Citizens. The average Citizen simply got fucked. They were powerless to do anything about it and the corrupt politicians were never held accountable.
 
The E.F. was lost because storm waves entered into the ship via hatches that were not fully secured. One hatch was completely off, from what I remember. Then it took on a list, then more water. As you mentioned, that wreck did not have to happen. Crew made a mistake, or some hatches were in disrepair.

Being a boater and a former yacht repair person, I study most of the new maritime disasters. There is always, or at least almost always, a reason the boat and crew were lost. Sometimes it is the ship owner cutting back on maintenance, sometimes it is the skipper running late and going out into a storm. Lots of reasons, and almost every one avoidable.
Yes, agreed.

From what I remember, the Seas were thirty (or more) feet. I think the worst I have ever seen is between 12 and 15 foot seas and that was pretty damned bad. No one should have ever even left port in that kind of weather.

I grew up on the water and spent many decades on the water. The more time I spend on the water, the more respect (fear) I have for it. Water doesn't care about you. Not even a little bit.
 
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But, the script is always the same. The corrupt bureaucrats/politicians sell their souls to the devil (IMF/World Bank/Rothschilds) for a few pieces of Silver and the (massive) toll is extracted from the Citizens. The average Citizen simply got fucked. They were powerless to do anything about it and the corrupt politicians were never held accountable.

but there are more of us, why are we scared?
 
Well, I for one am not scared. But. I'm very disappointed.

CV-19 (among other things) has illustrated just how high of a percentage of the population are gutless, spineless fucking sheep.

most of my friends were too scared to get in their cars and come down to the property to see me, kept asking how i did it. i told them i read the federal, state and emergency laws that everyone else was too lazy to read as it took time away from their miserable existence in front of the idiot box. plus they didnt want to give back the money in fines the govt gave them.

when the lockdowns were on last year and the majority of councils were in lockdown, including the one i live in, i drove through every single lockdown local govt area to pick up spray dye for our neighbour at our property and continued on my merry way. cops were everywhere, one on his scooter even pulled up beside me, had a good look then rode on to the next service station for a donut. from the beginning of the magic trick in early 2020 i have been unmolested the whole time, even attending, out of my area, local elections. chick at the front door asked if i wanted a mask, i asked her if i looked sick. not one single person pulled out a camera or tried to stop me, but instead looked at me like i just arrived from another planet. zero fucks given to anyone. yeah i did look a little intimidating with the tactical beard i use to sport and scruffy atire wearing old clothes as i was doing some shit around the farm. i guess no one wanted to catch the working bug, thats why they didnt approach me.

im only a little guy, not much taller than Frank LOL
 
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Lets distill this down to the essence. Since you refuse to answer my question of what the left offers that isn't connected to avoiding personal responsibility and/or getting freebies, why do you support leftys if not for the same?
 
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It's worse than a religion. Some people are caught up in the religious beliefs and trying to show them their beliefs are wrong is no different than trying to tell you that one plus one is not two. You can hand them one apple and ask how many do they have. They say one. Then you hand them another apple and ask how many do they have and they can see that there's two apples but the disconnect won't allow them to admit their entire belief/religion is false.
If leftys ever knew what they were talking about they wouldn't have to be leftys.
 
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It's worse than a religion. Some people are caught up in the religious beliefs and trying to show them their beliefs are wrong is no different than trying to tell you that one plus one is not two. You can hand them one apple and ask how many do they have. They say one. Then you hand them another apple and ask how many do they have and they can see that there's two apples but the disconnect won't allow them to admit their entire belief/religion is false.
Does anyone else find it strange that so many atheists see government as a saviour?
 
Does anyone else find it strange that so many atheists see government as a saviour?
Strange? Not really (at least for me). It's human nature to seek out meaning of/for life. It's written in history since history has been recorded. People have put their trust/faith in everything from rock formations to the stars in the sky. So trusting in the government by the lost? Why not?
 
Strange? Not really (at least for me). It's human nature to seek out meaning of/for life. It's written in history since history has been recorded. People have put their trust/faith in everything from rock formations to the stars in the sky. So trusting in the government by the lost? Why not?
Granted. But is there a single instance of government not turning despotic?