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Coup De Grâce, New Action from American Rifle Company, $899 WOW!

I just want to chime in on the introductory price. All the configurations of actions will be able to be purchased while the introductory price is in effect. Just know that the longs and left hand actions will take a little longer to get, so just be patient.
I know Ted mentioned the idea of a group buy being a “pay in full” group buy. Will the pre-sale actions purchased through the ARC site be “pay in full” as well or will we be able to pay XX amount as a deposit to get the process started and pay the remainder once finished?
 
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I know Ted mentioned the idea of a group buy being a “pay in full” group buy. Will the pre-sale actions purchased through the ARC site be “pay in full” as well or will we be able to pay XX amount as a deposit to get the process started and pay the remainder once finished?
pretty sure he said that all pre-orders are the paid in full type for ease of processing and logistics.
 
Reminds me of the Nuke 1.0 preorder. Got one of those, very happy with it, expect to have the same thing happen here.

Ted, Kudos to you for putting all the great info here in the thread. Kick PVA in the rear to get them to offer some prefits to coincide with your launch.
 
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Reminds me of the Nuke 1.0 preorder. Got one of those, very happy with it, expect to have the same thing happen here.

Ted, Kudos to you for putting all the great info here in the thread. Kick PVA in the rear to get them to offer some prefits to coincide with your launch.
What would be even better is have PVA barreled actions with the preorder price hahahaha:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: I know that wouldn't happen but that'd be amazing since im already planning on the CDG, osprey prefit and the jet4 brake
 
Was thinking of picking up a Archimedes but now rethinking to get this. Planning on running a 223 and a 6 creed barrel. Already have a pile of AI mags and dont really want to stock back up to AIAW mags. Would you recommend the Arch over the Coup then as the Coup is primerily designed to feed from AIAW?
 
I’m still curious what regular price is set to be after the introduction pricing wears off
 
Was thinking of picking up a Archimedes but now rethinking to get this. Planning on running a 223 and a 6 creed barrel. Already have a pile of AI mags and dont really want to stock back up to AIAW mags. Would you recommend the Arch over the Coup then as the Coup is primerily designed to feed from AIAW?
Go with the Arch ... I bet you there will be a lot of guys offloading their for a good price, chasing the new.
I’m even considering selling my Arch to go AIAW because I can’t control myself and need to get the latest and greatest.

But most likely I’ll just keep it as a 223 trainer and still buy the CDG
 
Was thinking of picking up a Archimedes but now rethinking to get this. Planning on running a 223 and a 6 creed barrel. Already have a pile of AI mags and dont really want to stock back up to AIAW mags. Would you recommend the Arch over the Coup then as the Coup is primerily designed to feed from AIAW?
if i remember correctly the Arch is being discontinued as this is a new and improved version.
 
Go with the Arch ... I bet you there will be a lot of guys offloading their for a good price, chasing the new.
I’m even considering selling my Arch to go AIAW because I can’t control myself and need to get the latest and greatest.

But most likely I’ll just keep it as a 223 trainer and still buy the CDG
I have the same problem unfortunately lol. I will probably give ARC a call once this cools off and see what they suggest. A few AIAW mags would offset the cost difference between the Arch and Coup
 
You must not remember how the last ARC/PVA barreled action collab went....
I remember how the Hancock rifles went and those didn't roll out the way Josh and company wanted, but last year they did offer nucleus 2.0 barreled actions and those sold like hotcakes. I'm moreso talking about something like that vs a full rifle.
 
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My patriot valley barrels hammer. I know they have had issues in the past. I don’t know the details but from what I gathered seemed like growing pains of a small company but who knows.

Me personally I plan on ordering more from them as needed.
 
I'm surprised anyone that's been on these forums for more than a few years would buy anything from PVA.
I read all about lead time issues and QC back in the day, but I have heard nothing but good things about them especially since they started offering the Osprey Barrels. The 6GT group I'm in, almost everyone i speak to on there with one of their barrels from the last 18 months or so loves them.
 
I read all about lead time issues and QC back in the day, but I have heard nothing but good things about them especially since they started offering the Osprey Barrels. The 6GT group I'm in, almost everyone i speak to on there with one of their barrels from the last 18 months or so loves them.
That and so much more. There are so many good options out there they aren't worth the gamble for me. Interesting you've only been on since Wednesday and almost all of your posts have been about PVA...
 
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That and so much more. There are so many good options out there they aren't worth the gamble for me. Interesting you've only been on since Wednesday and almost all of your posts have been about PVA...
I’ve bought 5 PVA barrels in the last 5 years and everyone of them is a hammer. The last 2 were delivered before the end of the quoted time frame. There are a lot of good options yes. But not many that will outshoot a PVA barrel for the same money.
 
What would be even better is have PVA barreled actions with the preorder price hahahaha:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: I know that wouldn't happen but that'd be amazing since im already planning on the CDG, osprey prefit and the jet4 brake
I'll stay away from any PVA combos. That last one PVA did was full of PVA telling (at best) half-truths and then screwing customers over.

I trust ARC and I trust other smiths, but PVA has lost any possible trust based on their actions and deceptions in the past. I know others are happy with them and I'm glad they didn't get screwed over. Hope they never do.
 
That and so much more. There are so many good options out there they aren't worth the gamble for me. Interesting you've only been on since Wednesday and almost all of your posts have been about PVA...
You make it sound like I work for PVA🤣 I've been a long time observer of the forum and decided to finally get an account because this action has me really excited and I actually posted more about preferred barrels🤣
 
Are there any plans of discontinuing any of your other actions? It looks like you have four actions that are aimed at the same tactical rifle market.
 
I just want to chime in on the introductory price. All the configurations of actions will be able to be purchased while the introductory price is in effect. Just know that the longs and left hand actions will take a little longer to get, so just be patient.
Will complete rifle packages be available? If so at what price point? Last week a friend of mine asked me what bolt action he should get and mentioned eventually getting a chassis. I doubt he'll spend the coin on a $4k+ full on custom build, but something near the Nucleus Gen2 rifle price point just may land you guys a sale.
 
Will complete rifle packages be available? If so at what price point? Last week a friend of mine asked me what bolt action he should get and mentioned eventually getting a chassis. I doubt he'll spend the coin on a $4k+ full on custom build, but something near the Nucleus Gen2 rifle price point just may land you guys a sale.
The Nucleus gen2 rifle is a full custom build and by the time her puts a scope on it, it’ll be over 4 grand.
 
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The Nucleus gen2 rifle is a full custom build and by the time her puts a scope on it, it’ll be over 4 grand.
The base price listed for the Nucleus G2 is $2499. Base price is what matters here. Accessories come later. Cost isn't the biggest concern. He only wants a chassis'd bolt action for hunting and target shooting. I just want to see what all the sub $3K options are for a complete rifle minus the accessories.
 
It sure seems this action offers a whole lot for the money. If there's time, I'd appreciate it if Ted could explain how I could get a Hawkins Oberndorf bottom metal to work with this? I'm looking to build a pure hunting rifle in .264WM and this sure ticks a lot of the boxes for that task. Just don't want a DBM for that application. Have to say it is very refreshing to have the designer openly discussing his product here and being incredibly helpful and patient with some of the whiners. You're not going to buy an action because of the name? GTFO. How vain and immature are you that you ignore the clear advantages of this action over any other because it's got a cheese eating surrender monkey name on it? LOL. I like the ethos behind the name, kinda like throwing down a gauntlet and challenging others to do better. More power to ARC and I hope they sell thousands.
 
It sure seems this action offers a whole lot for the money. If there's time, I'd appreciate it if Ted could explain how I could get a Hawkins Oberndorf bottom metal to work with this? I'm looking to build a pure hunting rifle in .264WM and this sure ticks a lot of the boxes for that task. Just don't want a DBM for that application. Have to say it is very refreshing to have the designer openly discussing his product here and being incredibly helpful and patient with some of the whiners. You're not going to buy an action because of the name? GTFO. How vain and immature are you that you ignore the clear advantages of this action over any other because it's got a cheese eating surrender monkey name on it? LOL. I like the ethos behind the name, kinda like throwing down a gauntlet and challenging others to do better. More power to ARC and I hope they sell thousands.
You must not have any jackass friends like I do..
“What kind of job you running there? 6GT?What’s that foreign writing on the side of it?”
Me: It’s French, translates to “Finishing blow”.
“So, you’re running a 6mm Gay Tiger Finishing Blow job??”

Having said that, I’m still gonna order two just like I did with the Archimedes pre-sale..👍🏻
 
So, if this action is designed to feed best from AW mags, is there any chance that ARC will produce a compatible AW style mag that holds more than 10 rounds for the competition guys?

How does one run an AW mag in most chassis? They all list AICS mag compatibility. I must be missing something. Would love to build a rifle on this action and put it in a chassis, but I want to run AW mags.
 
So, if this action is designed to feed best from AW mags, is there any chance that ARC will produce a compatible AW style mag that holds more than 10 rounds for the competition guys?

How does one run an AW mag in most chassis? They all list AICS mag compatibility. I must be missing something. Would love to build a rifle on this action and put it in a chassis, but I want to run AW mags.
A double stack LA mag is long overdue.
 
An AW style double stack 223 mag that lets you load heavies really long would be great too, but not sure if they would ever sell enough to justify the development and tooling costs for such a magazine.

My 223AI Archimedes build gets shot more than any of my other rifles, love that thing. AW double stack mags that I could snap rounds into like an AR mag would make it even better!
 
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So, if this action is designed to feed best from AW mags, is there any chance that ARC will produce a compatible AW style mag that holds more than 10 rounds for the competition guys?

How does one run an AW mag in most chassis? They all list AICS mag compatibility. I must be missing something. Would love to build a rifle on this action and put it in a chassis, but I want to run AW mags.
You can cut a hole in the bottom of an aw mag that allows the follower spring through and attach an a419 mag extension. This is rumor to work from the dude at just fn sendit podcast. I have not tested bit will soon.
 
How does one run an AW mag in most chassis? They all list AICS mag compatibility. I must be missing something. Would love to build a rifle on this action and put it in a chassis, but I want to run AW mags.
The thing with AW mags is that they will run in any bottom metal/chassis that accepts AICS mags, but not every action is cut to use AW mags. It’s the action that makes the difference, not the chassis or bottom metal.
 
The thing with AW mags is that they will run in any bottom metal/chassis that accepts AICS mags, but not every action is cut to use AW mags. It’s the action that makes the difference, not the chassis or bottom metal.
Interesting
 
That’s a center feed mag, aw style mags are not.
 
The thing with AW mags is that they will run in any bottom metal/chassis that accepts AICS mags, but not every action is cut to use AW mags. It’s the action that makes the difference, not the chassis or bottom metal.
I’ve found AW mags hit/miss in function. Certain mags, certain actions, certain bottom metals…
 
So, if this action is designed to feed best from AW mags, is there any chance that ARC will produce a compatible AW style mag that holds more than 10 rounds for the competition guys?

How does one run an AW mag in most chassis? They all list AICS mag compatibility. I must be missing something. Would love to build a rifle on this action and put it in a chassis, but I want to run AW mags.
the real question.
 
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I’ve found AW mags hit/miss in function. Certain mags, certain actions, certain bottom metals…
I don’t doubt that. I honestly don’t swap out a lot of things other than barrels and an occasional stock or bottom metal. AW are picky in that they need the correct height in the action for solid bolt engagement. Actions built specifically to handle AW mags tend to do fine if the mag catch in the action/chassis is adjusted correctly.

I don’t claim to know all the interactions between possible combinations, I truly only know what I’ve experienced.
 
I don’t doubt that. I honestly don’t swap out a lot of things other than barrels and an occasional stock or bottom metal. AW are picky in that they need the correct height in the action for solid bolt engagement. Actions built specifically to handle AW mags tend to do fine if the mag catch in the action/chassis is adjusted correctly.

I don’t claim to know all the interactions between possible combinations, I truly only know what I’ve experienced.
I had my Impact running in a Manners mini chassis with AW mags, but couldn’t get it running optimally in a Foundation with Hawkins metal. 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
I had my Impact running in a Manners mini chassis with AW mags, but couldn’t get it running optimally in a Foundation with Hawkins metal. 🤷🏻‍♂️
I don’t doubt that. My statement was generalized and intended to educate regarding the use of AW vs AICS mags. Once you go down the path of which combo does which, I have AICS pattern mags that have issues in some actions too. 👍🏻
 
People of Earth,

American Rifle Company proudly introduces the Coup De Grâce at the hard to believe introductory price of only $899.

We'll be taking orders soon, probably in about eight weeks once actions are on the shelf.

From the Oxford English Dictionary:

e. coup de grâce n. /ku də ɡras/ [literally stroke of grace] a blow by which one condemned or mortally wounded is ‘put out of his misery’ or dispatched quickly; hence figurative a finishing stroke, one that settles or puts an end to something.

Whether it puts competitors out of their misery or puts and end to the confusion resulting from the myriad of other bolt actions with little or nothing to distinguish one from another, American Rifle Company’s Coup De Grâce is certainly worthy of its name.

Simply put, the Coup De Grâce does more with less and looks great doing it with its beautiful design, DLC and salt bath nitrided finishes.

It’s Rem700 footprint receiver is machined with an integral recoil lug and integral 20 MOA rail.

The three-lug, 70-degree bolt uses interchangeable floating bolt heads and accommodates everything from 223 Rem on up to 338 Lapua.

Receiver and bolt work well with AICS mags but are optimized for incredibly smooth and reliable feeding using AIAW mags and conical breech barrels.

The AIAW mag will hard stop against the bottom of the receiver thus preventing interference with the bolt.

The back of the AICS mag will hard stop against the receiver but if pushed upwards, the forward tips of the feed lips will interfere with the bolt. The mag will be driven down when pushing the bolt forward. An optional forward hard stop for the AICS mag can be placed between the receiver and the stock/chassis.

Receiver-mounted passive (aka mechanical) ejector sends cases out at three o’clock through a large ejection port.

Controlled-round feed extractor grips a large portion of the case rim taking full advantage of the patented pivoting bolt handle that easily pulls even the most stubborn cartridges from the chamber.

The pivoting bolt handle can be swapped out for a fixed handle thus converting the action to one with conventional cam extraction better tolerated by highly sensitive triggers.

The entire bolt assembly is composed of only sixteen parts, but can function with as few as twelve, of which two are springs and one is a ball.

The entire bolt, even the striker assembly, can be disassembled in the field without the use of tools.

A screw-adjustable trigger hanger makes easy work of positioning Rem700 compatible triggers for bump-free bolt closing.

Dual cocking cams reduce friction within the bolt for easier bolt lift.

The bolt knob is our best ever and makes fast cycling really easy. Other knobs can also be adapted to the standard 5/16-24 handle thread.

The circular section of the bolt handle makes sweeping it back easy if that’s your preference.

Robust 9 o’clock bolt release has a direct load path to the receiver which protects the its pivot pin.

Patented toroidal bolt-lug bearing surfaces reduce stress.

The Coup De Grâce is explosively tested for safety at pressures that greatly exceed standard proof loads.

Weight: short action 947 grams (2.1 pounds), long action 1084 grams (2.4 pounds)

Why, you might ask, would we offer the Coup De Grâce at such a low price? Well, let's just say I'm a big fan of decentralized decision making and to that end, I think everyone should have long range rifle built on the best action ever offered by anyone at any price. But that's just me.

Enjoy

Ted

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Beautiful.
 
Looking forward to PVA doing up a barred action. I love my Joh Hancock rifle, yes it took a while to get delivery, but it was more than what was promised. I liked it enough to buy a Falkor barreled action that is another great shooter.

As for problems, IMO, PVA probably would have had an easier time getting out the John Hancock rifles if they had parts produced by other and if they were not here wading though a river of crybaby tears from impatient purchasers and responding to unnecessary/not constructive comments from keyboard commandos.