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Is something going on in Ukraine?

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NoDopes said:
Russia is blowing up all the ammo stores from the west. This isn't a fair fight. Fuck I can't afford this shit.
We need to deploy all these weapons on the southern border.
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You know I have been thinking. We got all these illegals that are coming in and no doubt many are good brick layers. We could have taken all that money spent on Ukraine, bought bricks and mortar from Home Depot, picked up the illegals to do the brick laying at Home Depot and really made a nice wall. Seems like that would have checked almost all the boxes. Instead all that money literally went up in smoke.

Hopefully somebody somewhere understands that Russia is not just saying we know where all the material is stored, but also that they are far more competent that our last several adversaries. Crooked and dangerous? Yup. Weak? Hardly.
 
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lariat said:
You know I have been thinking. We got all these illegals that are coming in and no doubt many are good brick layers. We could have taken all that money spent on Ukraine, bought bricks and mortar from Home Depot, picked up the illegals to do the brick laying at Home Depot and really made a nice wall. Seems like that would have checked almost all the boxes. Instead all that money literally went up in smoke.

Hopefully somebody somewhere understands that Russia is not just saying we know where all the material is stored, but also that they are far more competent that our last several adversaries. Crooked and dangerous? Yup. Weak? Hardly.
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Do you know what they say about bricks and big fat chicks?
Eventually they will get laid by a Mexican.
 
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lariat said:
You know I have been thinking. We got all these illegals that are coming in and no doubt many are good brick layers. We could have taken all that money spent on Ukraine, bought bricks and mortar from Home Depot, picked up the illegals to do the brick laying at Home Depot and really made a nice wall. Seems like that would have checked almost all the boxes. Instead all that money literally went up in smoke.

Hopefully somebody somewhere understands that Russia is not just saying we know where all the material is stored, but also that they are far more competent that our last several adversaries. Crooked and dangerous? Yup. Weak? Hardly.
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"The big guy" doesn't give a shit how much taxpayer money goes up in smoke as long as he gets his 10 percent.
 
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theLBC said:
accounting mistake could have funded the wall.

www.theblaze.com

Whoops! Pentagon has another $3 billion available to support Ukraine after accounting mistake discovered | Blaze Media

The Defense Department says it inaccurately accounted for the value of equipment the U.S. has been providing to Ukraine. The mistake means there is $3 billion more available to assist Ukraine.Not including the accounting mistakes, the Pentagon has about $2.7 billion left to support Ukraine, but...
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Accounting mistake my ass , you can bet your money someone spent a lot of time figuring out how to lower the value of aid suppliedon paper to make 3 billion appear unspent.
The 3billion made up in creative accounting
 
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NoDopes said:
Russia is blowing up all the ammo stores from the west. This isn't a fair fight. Fuck I can't afford this shit.
We need to deploy all these weapons on the southern border.
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At this point I wouldn't be surprised if our own CIA is funneling the info. on where the ammo. & caches are just so they can be destroyed, and require replacement, to further ruin us.
 
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Mr.BR said:
Accounting mistake my ass , you can bet your money someone spent a lot of time figuring out how to lower the value of aid suppliedon paper to make 3 billion appear unspent.
The 3billion made up in creative accounting
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But you are about to hear that enlisted won't get their paychecks if the debt ceiling isn't lifted!
 
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Didnt realize Ukies could replicate American accents to that level. Interesting..

Better save the last bullet for yourselves if it comes down to it boys. Cant imagine it'd be fun to get captured live by the Russians as an American mercenary.
 
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It's funny to hear people start talking about peace deals. Russia wants demilitarization and end of the Nazis. He won't be done for a while still. He's gone this far already and is just ramping up attacks. I really should buy some MIC stock, at least I'll get some of my money back over the next ten years from this dumpster fire.
 
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NoDopes said:
It's funny to hear people start talking about peace deals. Russia wants demilitarization and end of the Nazis. He won't be done for a while still. He's gone this far already and is just ramping up attacks. I really should buy some MIC stock, at least I'll get some of my money back over the next ten years from this dumpster fire.
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Mr.BR said:
I guess the problem was the video ending with two impacts on or around Patriots after they blew 158mio$ worth of Pac-3 .

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If this is true its pretty fucked up.

I get they don't want to give away the location of air defense, but at the same time the truth of what is going on, Trumps that. It's not like the Russian's don't have satellites and other spy apparatus that track this shit. They targeted the thing, I think they know where it was.
 
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NoDopes said:
It's funny to hear people start talking about peace deals. Russia wants demilitarization and end of the Nazis. He won't be done for a while still. He's gone this far already and is just ramping up attacks. I really should buy some MIC stock, at least I'll get some of my money back over the next ten years from this dumpster fire.
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If only kings fought their own battles, wouldn't that be a sight.
 
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GreenGO Juan said:
If this is true its pretty fucked up.

I get they don't want to give away the location of air defense, but at the same time the truth of what is going on, Trumps that. It's not like the Russian's don't have satellites and other spy apparatus that track this shit. They targeted the thing, I think they know where it was.
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They don't want the truth of how the war is going out. For all the carnage so far, especially in terms of combatants killed or wounded, it's astounding how little reporting is happening. All people in Ukraine know is men, old and young, are being sent to the front by the thousands and not returning. There's plenty of rah-rah fundraising by their leader out on countless world tours, and the occasional win, like sinking a ship or something, but for the most part they are watching their country being annihilated. They are under martial law, so they dare not say anything negative, but wouldn't surprise me if when Zelensky returns that people start quietly dropping a dime on his location. Seriously, he's the one who keeps proclaiming, "we'll fight to the last Ukrainian", which may be melodramatic, but practically are the words of a madman. How does it save even part of your country if all the citizens are dead? He's the one who refuses to negotiate (along with his mentors of course). Censoring reports of the fighting when injured return (if they return?) and tell horror stories does little for morale of citizens. With stockpiles of DU weapons being bombed and particles dispersed, their great farmland will be ruined for decades. Cities and infrastructure are getting wrecked. No doubt Blackrock loves it, as it is just more that will need rebuilt (at a handsome profit), but it's hell on the indigenous population.

Is Zelensky holding out for some deal where he gets to retire to a mansion in Switzerland with maybe a private island in the Bahamas?

Needless. It's all needless.
 
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NoDopes said:
It's funny to hear people start talking about peace deals. Russia wants demilitarization and end of the Nazis. He won't be done for a while still. He's gone this far already and is just ramping up attacks. I really should buy some MIC stock, at least I'll get some of my money back over the next ten years from this dumpster fire.
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Biggest issue with peace is it takes two to tango and I can’t really see Russia’s motivation to end the fighting.

Anyone that thinks, oh crap Ukraine might lose so it’s time for peace is beyond retarded. No point coming to some sort of compromise when you hold all the cards.
 
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GreenGO Juan said:
If this is true its pretty fucked up.

I get they don't want to give away the location of air defense, but at the same time the truth of what is going on, Trumps that. It's not like the Russian's don't have satellites and other spy apparatus that track this shit. They targeted the thing, I think they know where it was.
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Russia’s military satellites are pretty dated. Their last OPIR sensor like the US DSP or SBIRs died close to 10 year ago now. Russian ISR collection platforms are either old or they have very few in comparison to the US and China.
Their GLONASS system, their version of GPS is also pretty crap.

So they could probably find it via SIGINT and follow up with GEOINT, but they are in the dark when it comes to OPIR which would help decrease their F2T2EA cycle of finding the patriot launchers after they have been moved and then fired.
 
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jthor said:
Russia’s military satellites are pretty dated. Their last OPIR sensor like the US DSP or SBIRs died close to 10 year ago now. Russian ISR collection platforms are either old or they have very few in comparison to the US and China.
Their GLONASS system, their version of GPS is also pretty crap.

So they could probably find it via SIGINT and follow up with GEOINT, but they are in the dark when it comes to OPIR which would help decrease their F2T2EA cycle of finding the patriot launchers after they have been moved and then fired.
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1. Launch a decoy rocket.
2. Locate patriots.
 
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and yet they are kicking collective West ass which uses Ukrop meat (higher quality than average western fat marbled beef).
But i should know better than to reply to a dude that uses more capslocked abbreviations than real words to form his sentences. I guess one has to be an operator to understand the strategy behind this fuckfest in Ukraine.
 
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NoDopes said:
1. Launch a decoy rocket.
2. Locate patriots.
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That still takes takes time create a targeting solution and the only thing thing they are going to get is an ELINT hit off of radars with the lack of OPIR. OSINT sources however can be pretty deadly and help develop a good JDPI on a target pretty fast when you lack other ways of gathering exact data on a target. Not an expert on how the Patriots are laid out, but I’ve seen one or 2 IADS diagrams in my time and I’m gonna assume that the Patriots keep their radars away from their launches and the most intelligent way to conduct C2 of fires would be via a physical connect and nothing that emits RF.
Not discrediting what you have said by any means.
 
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sharac said:
and yet they are kicking collective West ass which uses Ukrop meat (higher quality than average western fat marbled beef).
But i should know better than to reply to a dude that uses more capslocked abbreviations than real words to form his sentences. I guess one has to be an operator to understand the strategy behind this fuckfest in Ukraine.
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Hi there!
OPIR: Overhead Persistent Infrared
DSP: Defense Support Program, Cold War era OPIR satellite from the US.
SBIRS: Space-Based Infrared System, modern OPIR satellite from the US.
ISR: Intelligence Surveillance Reconnaissance
Glonass: Russian attempt at positioning, navigation, and Timing (PNT) satellite constellation that uses a frequency hopped spread spectrum (FHSS).
SIGINT: Signals intelligence. Several different flavors of this so feel free to do some reading.
GEOINT: imagery
F2T2EA: Find, Fix, Track, Target, engage and assess.
ELINT: electronic intelligence, most common source would be a radar.
OSINT: open source intelligence. Example: folks taking selfies of where they are at where you can see the surrounding area around them and or have Geo tagging on social media posts.
JDPI: Joint Desired Point of Impact
IADS: Integrated Air Defense System
C2: Command and Control.

Have a nice day champ!
 
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jthor said:
Russia’s military satellites are pretty dated. Their last OPIR sensor like the US DSP or SBIRs died close to 10 year ago now. Russian ISR collection platforms are either old or they have very few in comparison to the US and China.
Their GLONASS system, their version of GPS is also pretty crap.

So they could probably find it via SIGINT and follow up with GEOINT, but they are in the dark when it comes to OPIR which would help decrease their F2T2EA cycle of finding the patriot launchers after they have been moved and then fired.
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So basically Russia is like...

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jthor said:
Hi there!
OPIR: Overhead Persistent Infrared
DSP: Defense Support Program, Cold War era OPIR satellite from the US.
SBIRS: Space-Based Infrared System, modern OPIR satellite from the US.
ISR: Intelligence Surveillance Reconnaissance
Glonass: Russian attempt at positioning, navigation, and Timing (PNT) satellite constellation that uses a frequency hopped spread spectrum (FHSS).
SIGINT: Signals intelligence. Several different flavors of this so feel free to do some reading.
GEOINT: imagery
F2T2EA: Find, Fix, Track, Target, engage and assess.
ELINT: electronic intelligence, most common source would be a radar.
OSINT: open source intelligence. Example: folks taking selfies of where they are at where you can see the surrounding area around them and or have Geo tagging on social media posts.
JDPI: Joint Desired Point of Impact
IADS: Integrated Air Defense System
C2: Command and Control.

Have a nice day champ!
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