Based on the size of its ears and feet, I think it is a Fisher... but it could also be a Mink.
Whatever it is, it’s adorable.
Bunch of people around me are getting into guns and they have asked me what to get.
Knowing they won't train I have suggested revolvers and as their intent is to carry them I specifically recommend old Smith and Wesson J Models......not the new scandium ones older ones - pre lock made of steel.
My thinking is there is very little immediate action to train into - if it doesn't fire on the first trigger pull, pullit again.
And I say old steel because if they do shoot it will sting their hands less and they are basically unwanted and can be had cheap. The majority were night table guns that get sold by estate agents and where I shop they look brand new. They were also probably built as hand fit smooth guns vs edm cut or mim.
Good advice, but you are goi g about it wrong.
If your non-gun weenie neighbors are “just”
Stepping up after Probably spending years whining about gun are bad… and won’t practice… you need to get them “working for you.”
By this I mean… make a list of all the cool guns you really want but don’t want to spend money on. .38 super 1911 pre ‘60, steyr Aug, HK P7, MG42… you know the drill. Pick what you want.
Then recommend these to your neighbors. And have them buy good ones.
The a couple of things happen… things get better and Mrs. Karen and Manbun no longer want gun in the house and you buy it cheap. Or SHTf and you simply walk over, disarm the untrained loser, take the dehydrated organic Kale chips they hoarded for yourself and as a bonus, you have a gun you want… not just another beat up pre Hillary-hole Smith J.
Think big… suburban losers spend big $$$ on things they think will keep them safe. Korth revolvers, Browning High Powers, factory engraved pythons… last I checked a AI was great for home defense and a pair of AYA 28 gauges (cased, of course) is an ideal his/hers stand-off system. hey, it’s their money.
Always be thinking… preparation starts with the mind!!
Sirhr
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You forgot to add that they should be told to get the best ammunition that money can buy. If you are going to take some snowflake's gun from them during the apocalypse then you might as well get the ammunition to go along with it.
No, I think it's the other way round actually.
Think about it, they're both N frames with the only real difference being bore and chamber dimensions.
So, it stands to reason the 610 would be slightly heavier than a 629 of equal barrel length.
These are good peeps their enthusiasm is refreshing though they are depressed by my jaded pessimism.
How could I have forgotten that?
In fact, advise them to get primers, too! Because everything else will be available. But primers won’t be.
Thanks for the correction!
Sirhr
You likely know Sears is long gone. This is where "good" cheap tools came from in your reference 40 years in the past. In a past life time I turned wrenches for a living, and when I started it was all craftsaman, everyone started there.
So in those early days of dumpster diving at junk yards, (I miss the "old school" junk yards) it was all craftsaman. I still go now and again but now the tools are the HF. They really have replaced Sears as the go to. I don't really want to turn this into a HF pass fail thread, you can find that other places. But they are not bad, in some cases better in the hand then those 40yr old craftsman wrenches.
There are still things you can get from the dumpster yards of today, you pick you pull type places. The inventory changes quickly, and bones are left fairly quickly. But if you tinker, like wanting power seats in a rail buggy it is the place to go.
You are correct I have not gone and really "done" anything in a few years, last time I went I took my kid and I said I want that take it off, and made him do the hard work. He never really took to turning wrenches. And as he is "messican" perhaps that is why we did ok.
For me old stuff, there are a few places I used, generally specific forums with those people passing parts around, sometimes in the for sale area but usually not. Looking for a pedal assembly for a 63 VW, ask on Samba and you will get people out of the wood work to help you. And at better prices over epay.
Point I was trying to make is I have several sets of tools, just about anyone that does this at a serious hobby level will. My 850 fiat has everything in the frunk, (no trunk) to make it go. Electric fuel pump, some hose, coil cap points rotor and a pile of wire, along with a really cheap set of tools that will "work" if need be. Not needed it yet (knock on head, close enough to wood) but it is there and the stuff to install it is there. That is what I was trying to say.
In "every day" tinkering I lately have been grabbing a 40yr old Makita battery drill for some reason. I got it working again several months ago and bought new batteries for it. You remember those jobbies with the real long handle. I have far better drills but for some reason I am grabbing that one. Old time sake I guess. If I did it for a living I doubt it would last long, but I don't. Same with the sears ratchets, they really are not that great, back drag in the pounds, but for some reason I leave the "good" ones in the drawer. Even when I fight the tool it does not drive me crazy anymore. Likely because where I am in life in using them.
I have had many ask what gun to get to carry, when I make a suggestion say a Glock or other good pistol they say okay. The next week they bring a High Point out 
My first toolbox was filled by going to yard sales, swap meets and flea markets. You could buy craftsman tools for pennies and exchange them at Sears for new ones. I still have a lot of those tools. Many were bent, broken and worn out over the years. I have friends that are mechanics and they have tools spread across the country from leaving them in/on vehicles they have worked on. I guess it comes from my early days of not having the money to replace those tools. I am pretty anal when it comes to keeping up with tools. I don't loan tools to anyone. I'd rather come and help you with the project then lend you the tools. I have a motto... I don't borrow tools, if I borrow yours and break it. I have to buy one and I still don't have one. So I may as well buy one for me to start with.
I am a little different, no I will not loan you the tools, but if you want you can bring your car over here I will put it on the lift and turn the AC on and give you as much help as I can.
To me this does not sound like I am being a jerk and not letting you borrow something and look like I am doing you a favor in not crawling around in gravel with ants crawling up your pants legs. You also get heat or AC. Most folk jump at that chance. Everyone around knows I am not in the best shape, (5 back surgeries will take it out of you) so me sitting here and getting up to help position the screw jack to support the exhaust is something they all are thankful for. No doubt it is much more enjoyable doing it in the air vs on your back.
When I built my shop the wife suggested we put AC in there. I never really thought about it, never had it when I worked on cars in the past. Now I am glad I did, and some neighbors are as well. One guy comes over every couple months to use the lift to change the oil, he brings a big basket of tomatoes with him along with some other garden veggies for "payment".
Not a mink - mink would be smaller, thinner, small paws but also webbed; but I think in same family as Fisher. Vicious little things don't play well with other animals, even 3x their size.
I need to show that to my step-son. My wife and I asked him why he isn't strapping the transom to the trailer. His reply "it's not going anywhere" LOLgood brakes! Powerstop?
S&W 686+ is my trusted companion in the outdoors.
That or the newfangled spouts on gas cans. Those are so stupid I machined a new one out of scrap aluminum. Know what it looks like? A spout with a hole in it that gas flows freely out of.Or maybe a hay bailer,
Or a peanut combine,
Or a plastic laying machine.....
Or maybe bicycles, especially the ones in the middle of the road. That's probably it.
Not a mink, not even remotely a mink.
It is a fisher or a marten in other countries its sable.
My bad, I thought the 610 was on a K frame. lighter would come from the shorter barrel and lack of a full under lug too.
At first it looked like it could have been a baby wolverine, what with the sharp teeth and gigantic paws. But it’s definitely too long proportionally to be a wolverine
They do feel heavy, but really and truly there isn't enough of a weight difference between the two to make a difference, IMO.
A 4" 610 is 1.1 ounce heavier than a 4" 629.
A 6.5" 610 is 1.7 oz heavier that a 6.5" 629.
Those are empty weights.
Just for comparison, a 1076 weighs 41.6 oz.
With my ferked up rotator cuff a helium balloon held at arms length feels like it weighs 50 pounds.....
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Sears is gone but Lowes is carrying craftsman currently. No idea how it compares to old craftsman.
It doesn’t. It’s chinesium crap, disposable.
@LeftyJason
I will check the country of Origin on my new wrenches when I get home.
Needed a set of commie end/ratcheting wrenches and got an 11 piece Craftsman set at my local Ace.
For sure not US made and the few times I have used them, they have been excellent.
Im an average dude who does an above average amount of working on my own vehicles and taking care of stuff around the house.
Do have some nice old Craftsman US socket sets, SK tools, and other end wrenches to compare them to.
So far, so good.
And not doing anything crazy
I will check the country of Origin on my new wrenches when I get home.
Needed a set of commie end/ratcheting wrenches and got an 11 piece Craftsman set at my local Ace.
For sure not US made and the few times I have used them, they have been excellent.
Im an average dude who does an above average amount of working on my own vehicles and taking care of stuff around the house.
Do have some nice old Craftsman US socket sets, SK tools, and other end wrenches to compare them to.
So far, so good.
And not doing anything crazy
There was quite a dust up around this. When you ask who makes craftsman, they are owned by Stanley black n decker. One of the big players in the "tool game". TTI is another big company that owns a big chunk of the brands you likely know.
SBD opened a shiny new factory in TX IIRC. To make Craftsman USA made again. It has already closed. In looking at the tools depending on what they are depends on where they come from. China, Taiwan, or other eastern countries are most of it. Most of the power tools come out of China.
Find the graphic I want.....
Then you can't say all Craftsman are made in china, because "craftsman" is a pretty wide range of products. You also can't say a Ryobi is the same as a Ridgid as Milwaukee, they are all owned by the same guys, but there are differences. There are "tiers" to the products. Interesting enough if you have seen the white power tools at walmart branded Heart....i think, those are also made by TTI, a pretty big player.
Then you get into changes, the Milwaukee 2767 is the tank of the 1/2 impact world, thing has great power and strong as hell. So what do you think they do to it. Try to make it cheaper (my theory) and they are total garbage. People traveled 100 miles to find a 2767-a and would walk out empty handed if there was a B, there are videos of B's destroying themselves in the parking lot of Home Depot after being bought and the guy walking back in. Torque Test did a real big deal with that and I think had a HUGE part in making Milwaukee own this screw up. And they made it right by the customers.
I got a set of craftsmen from my dad for Christmas when I was in HS. Early 00's. Have mostly been buying craftsman these days so everything matches. Quality is good enough for my purposes. For hex bit sets I have been doing wiha or Milwaukee with my Dewalt drills.
I work on my own stuff at home. No lift, not professional, have tools supplied for work by work (aerospace cnc grinder). Most recent job I used tools for was changing shocks and struts on my wife's 2010 rav4.
